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I dont understand how the omega's blood on him "saves" the blonde?
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Just got back from seeing in in 3D Imax and I fucking loved it, way better than I had expected
*SPOILERS* Ending definitely begged a few questions that you listed. They shoe-horned a happy ending into the movie when I didn't think it was necessary and opened up a plot-hole. He kept waking up at the FOB during all the resets but after killing the Omega he reset to before his original meeting with the general which doesn't make any sense. And it was the same day since the general said something like "When you left this office this morning I didn't ever expect to see you again...". For continuity he should have either been resetting to before his general meeting each day or the final reset at the FOB again still as a deserter with the war over. I would have been perfectly fine with both of them dying taking out the Omega. They also missed a golden opportunity for him to call her Rose before the cut to credits; that one detail of her personal life would have instantly told her who/what he was and would have been a better way to end instead of the goofy Tom Cruise grin. But those are two very minor things that bugged me in an otherwise spectacular movie. Could have used some blood and guts to really hit home how fucking brutal the fighting was but I didn't feel the lack of it hurt the movie. PG-13 means more money and I really hope this movie is successful. The more big budget well done Sci-Fi the better |
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It explains it in the movie. Probably the best movie I've seen this year. The military cliche's kind of annoyed me though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I dont understand how the omega's blood on him "saves" the blonde? It explains it in the movie. Probably the best movie I've seen this year. The military cliche's kind of annoyed me though. But if "time" reset then how is the omega still dead? |
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Just got back from seeing in in 3D Imax and I fucking loved it, way better than I had expected *SPOILERS* Ending definitely begged a few questions that you listed. They shoe-horned a happy ending into the movie when I didn't think it was necessary and opened up a plot-hole. He kept waking up at the FOB during all the resets but after killing the Omega he reset to before his original meeting with the general which doesn't make any sense. And it was the same day since the general said something like "When you left this office this morning I didn't ever expect to see you again...". For continuity he should have either been resetting to before his general meeting each day or the final reset at the FOB again still as a deserter with the war over. I would have been perfectly fine with both of them dying taking out the Omega. They also missed a golden opportunity for him to call her Rose before the cut to credits; that one detail of her personal life would have instantly told her who/what he was and would have been a better way to end instead of the goofy Tom Cruise grin. But those are two very minor things that bugged me in an otherwise spectacular movie. Could have used some blood and guts to really hit home how fucking brutal the fighting was but I didn't feel the lack of it hurt the movie. PG-13 means more money and I really hope this movie is successful. The more big budget well done Sci-Fi the better View Quote I assumed that the Omega's blood was able to reset further into the past than the Alpha's |
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Wife and I just back from seeing Edge of Tomorrow. A solid 8-8.5 movie. I thought there were some holes in the technology of the armor, nothing that detracts from the movie in a terrible way. Unless you're an avid military sci-fi reader you'll miss the completely. The biggest blunder is the automatic rifles on the armor. They use box magazines, yet seem to put out hundreds of rounds between reloads. A one point Cage asks his armorer for four more mags of 5.56. They mags they show for reloads don't look like they contain hundreds of rounds. I know it a minor nitpick. Great action with a pretty basic story. Definitely worth seeing.
We had quite a discussion about the time cycles in the movie over a drink after the movie. Movie starts a point A, Cage gets tossed into J squad after waking up on a bunch of duffel bags, next day lands on the beach and dies, wakes up on the bags, dies, repeat. With each iteration of the time line he becomes a better and better soldier and advances the mission closer and closer to killing the omega until he finally makes it to where the Omega is supposed to be. His next iteration changes how the mission is conducted and it becomes about finding and using the "Omega reading" device for lack of a better description. Now with new information he persuades J squad to attack the Omega the night before the day on the beach. After successfully destroying the Omega and being contaminated in Omega fluids he wakes up in the helicopter he was riding in at the start of the Movie. Now the Omega has been destroyed the DAY BEFORE and the time loop of his awakening and then dying on the beach never happens. This whole thing seemed to really piss off my wife because she said it made no sense. So what happened? Did the timeline reset with everything starting one day forward in time? Or as my wife said who killed the Omega if Cage never killed it because Paris never happened? Is Cage now able to control time? |
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Wife and I just back from seeing Edge of Tomorrow. A solid 8-8.5 movie. I thought there were some holes in the technology of the armor, nothing that detracts from the movie in a terrible way. Unless you're an avid military sci-fi reader you'll miss the completely. The biggest blunder is the automatic rifles on the armor. They use box magazines, yet seem to put out hundreds of rounds between reloads. A one point Cage asks his armorer for four more mags of 5.56. They mags they show for reloads don't look like they contain hundreds of rounds. I know it a minor nitpick. Great action with a pretty basic story. Definitely worth seeing. We had quite a discussion about the time cycles in the movie over a drink after the movie. Movie starts a point A, Cage gets tossed into J squad after waking up on a bunch of duffel bags, next day lands on the beach and dies, wakes up on the bags, dies, repeat. With each iteration of the time line he becomes a better and better soldier and advances the mission closer and closer to killing the omega until he finally makes it to where the Omega is supposed to be. His next iteration changes how the mission is conducted and it becomes about finding and using the "Omega reading" device for lack of a better description. Now with new information he persuades J squad to attack the Omega the night before the day on the beach. After successfully destroying the Omega and being contaminated in Omega fluids he wakes up in the helicopter he was riding in at the start of the Movie. Now the Omega has been destroyed the DAY BEFORE and the time loop of his awakening and then dying on the beach never happens. This whole thing seemed to really piss off my wife because she said it made no sense. So what happened? Did the timeline reset with everything starting one day forward in time? Or as my wife said who killed the Omega if Cage never killed it because Paris never happened? Is Cage now able to control time? View Quote Exactly |
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Snip So what happened? Did the timeline reset with everything starting one day forward in time? Or as my wife said who killed the Omega if Cage never killed it because Paris never happened? Exactly I stopped long ago trying to think through time-travel paradoxes in fiction; I try to just sit back and enjoy the story. Ending bugged me a little but I didn't find it too egregious in this flick. I had the best movie going experience so far this year and I want more in the same vein. I lost a girlfriend when I ripped apart The Time Traveler's Wife for not only being a shitty chick-flick, but for making no goddamn sense whatsoever |
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The book may have done a better job of explaining things regarding the timeline.
Definitely going to watch this movie! |
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Saw it tonight, thought it was very good. Any movie with mobile infantry suits starts out as a 10 from me and only goes down from there... so this ended up an 8 or so.
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I saw it on the opening weekend, I really liked it. The idea at the end that he's fallen for her over the course of what was likely a year or more of living the same day over and over, but she's never met him was interesting.
I would recommend this. It's probably worth mentioning that I fucking hate Tom Cruise, so take that into consideration when weighing my recommendation. |
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I enjoyed it, the more I think about it the more I like it too. I treated the viewer as an adult without having to ram the plot down your throat and hand hold you
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Just watched last night, and I also found it a great and enjoyable movie. Way better than Transformer 6.5 or w/e they're on now.
Great mix of plot, action, and comedy. And best of all the comedy in it actually made sense plot wise, wasn't just thrown in there to "lighten" the mood. As other people have mentioned the ending is what really bugged me. In all previous instances of the timeline reset, including those done by the omega itself, only knowledge was gained. There was no impact on the events of the day outside of the time traveler basically. Except then at the end... big reset, and everything is changed. In my opinion that was a huge discontinuity with the canon as set throughout the movie. And.. where was the air support, heavy bombers etc. but w/e. All this being said, I will buy this on bluray and I would welcome a sequel. One nicely done sequel based off what was more or less an original movie (as original as something can get in this day and age), not four like everything seems to get now. |
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Finally had a chance to see this movie in its original - and proper - language.
I had been avoding peeking into this thread for fear fo spoilers. I'm glad I didn't, all the twists were twists for me. My peeves: - The helicopter scene made no sense. She trusted every "if you do this, you die" thing he tells her up to then, but always blows him off when it comes to the helicopter? And, we are to believe there was no scenario where she did not die in that scene, but he could later go there on his own, kill the mimics where he knows they are hiding, and fly the helicopter? Why couldn't that have worked with both of them? Seems a contrived bit to add the emotional touch that - as mentioned - was well done. - The mimics were ready for the planned invasion just 3 hours later, and start shooting the invasion fleet out of the sky as they reached the beach, but a drop ship that departs only a tad early makes it undetected all the way to Paris? Really? What impressed me: - as mentioned, the story never talks down the audience with lengthy, unnatural, expositions. I expect to see review online complaining abotu things from people too slow to follow what was happening. - the pace and editing were perfectly done. Just as one "choose your own adventure" path was getting a little stale, it switched up down a different path. The expositions, as they did come, were also perfectly paced. - I didn't even mind the military cliches. The professionals had long been dead, this was a third tier Army recruited from what was left, and no doubt trained hastily. For some reason, though, the "PT" scene still bothered me, I admit. No showers or changes of clothes? As for the ending. I have mixed feelings. While it is obviously a "Hollywood" happy ending cop-out, I can accept that a second dose of whatever made the time travel thign work might have given him more subconscious control of the time thing. As for the questions in the OP, I too wonder what would happen if he went into a day two. I assume if he died in day two, he would re-awake where he woke up first in day 2. More accurately, it seems he would "reset" to wherever he last regained consciousness. But, if that's the case, wouldn't being knocked out or taking a catnap mess things up too. There is no warning given about that. Even without a blood transfusion, he could have found himself waking up in the prison hospital from then on. But, exploring those and other angles would only have messed up the excellent pacing of the movie. I'd like to see a longer cut someday, if one can be made. |
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- The mimics were ready for the planned invasion just 3 hours later, and start shooting the invasion fleet out of the sky as they reached the beach, but a drop ship that departs only a tad early makes it undetected all the way to Paris? Really? View Quote This one I can answer. Actually, it's very likely that the first invasions were wildly successful. The Mimics were caught off-guard and got their asses whomped... but in the process an Alpha got killed, allowing the Omega to reset things and try it again. Over time it turned into the massacre we see now. This is the reason their invasion has seemed to be unstoppable - it really wasn't, and they took their lumps too, but due to the Omega's time reset ability they are able to have basically infinite mulligans. This is the reason they actively avoid engaging any Alphas during the Paris strike at the end. If they kill one, the Omega resets the day and now knows they are coming. |
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Quoted: Just got back from seeing in in 3D Imax and I fucking loved it, way better than I had expected *SPOILERS* Ending definitely begged a few questions that you listed. They shoe-horned a happy ending into the movie when I didn't think it was necessary and opened up a plot-hole. He kept waking up at the FOB during all the resets but after killing the Omega he reset to before his original meeting with the general which doesn't make any sense. And it was the same day since the general said something like "When you left this office this morning I didn't ever expect to see you again...". For continuity he should have either been resetting to before his general meeting each day or the final reset at the FOB again still as a deserter with the war over. I would have been perfectly fine with both of them dying taking out the Omega. They also missed a golden opportunity for him to call her Rose before the cut to credits; that one detail of her personal life would have instantly told her who/what he was and would have been a better way to end instead of the goofy Tom Cruise grin. But those are two very minor things that bugged me in an otherwise spectacular movie. Could have used some blood and guts to really hit home how fucking brutal the fighting was but I didn't feel the lack of it hurt the movie. PG-13 means more money and I really hope this movie is successful. The more big budget well done Sci-Fi the better View Quote |
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Movie disappointed me.
If you're played any shooters like Halo, the movie just seemed to be like playing a game that started over each time you die. The plot was weak, and just didn't make me think anything other than watching someone else play Halo. My wife did not like the movie at all. I enjoyed it, as did my son, but I was still disappointed. It could have been much more original. |
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wow just watched this and wow!
been a long times since I have seen a good scifi and he actually acted well in this film. I liked his character how he grew. Now one of my favorite films. |
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I liked it so much, I bought a copy.
I also liked last year's Oblivion. Don't care for Cruse much, but he's a hell of an actor. |
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