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Posted: 8/16/2012 2:20:54 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Who makes a surge protector that works and will back it up? |
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Posted: 8/16/2012 2:36:04 PM
Originally Posted By 38_Special:
They denied my claim for lightening damage to an audio receiver. They couldnt 'find' any issues with the surge protector. Who makes a surge protector that works and will back it up? Surge suppressors do not work like you think they do  |
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Posted: 8/16/2012 2:37:32 PM
Obviously not. I guess I had hoped it would keep the surge from toasting electronic equipment. Was that a wrong assumption?
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Posted: 8/16/2012 3:21:01 PM
Originally Posted By 38_Special:
Obviously not. I guess I had hoped it would keep the surge from toasting electronic equipment. Was that a wrong assumption? I'll tell you that it works a hell of a lot better when the line into your house is also on a protected circuit "and" if you use a power conditioner. Spikes up in voltage are one way that your equipment can be hurt. Drops can do some damage as well depending on the kind of circuitry, or on hard drives and such.... Anyway, you need to protect your entire house and use the surge protectors on top of that. If you have nice audio/video equipment, use a conditioner to boot.... |
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Posted: 8/16/2012 3:26:00 PM
Think of lightning protection as a means to protect equipment,
facilities and people from the effects of nearby or direct lightning events.
Whereas, surge protection provides protection to equipment from the effects of
more distant lightning events and/or power system anomalies. In purely
scientific terms, lightning can be described by a waveform of 10/350µs, while
surges are described by an 8/20µs.
Bottom line, you would have spend more than an average AV Receiver cost for true protection. |
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Posted: 8/16/2012 3:29:49 PM
There is no surge protector made that will protect your equipment from lightening. Any one that says they do is VERY much misinformed.
Originally Posted By 38_Special: They denied my claim for lightening damage to an audio receiver. They couldnt 'find' any issues with the surge protector. Who makes a surge protector that works and will back it up? |
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Posted: 8/16/2012 3:33:58 PM
Originally Posted By Firefinder37:
Think of lightning protection as a means to protect equipment, facilities and people from the effects of nearby or direct lightning events. Whereas, surge protection provides protection to equipment from the effects of more distant lightning events and/or power system anomalies. In purely scientific terms, lightning can be described by a waveform of 10/350µs, while surges are described by an 8/20µs. Bottom line, you would have spend more than an average AV Receiver cost for true protection. A surge is any overage more than 3 nano seconds, IIRC. Anything shorter is called a spike.... But yeah, you need to spend money to protect expensive electronics. Kinda of like buying a rifle capable of accurately hitting targets at 1,500 yards and then pissing and moaning because you spent $150 on a scope and can't hit shit at those ranges  |
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Posted: 8/16/2012 4:08:54 PM
Thanks for the education. So, in terms of a $400 receiver, what would be a practical (cost wise) protection device? What about higher end electronics?
Also, the lightening did not come from the outside line. It came in through our invisible fence. |
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Posted: 8/16/2012 5:31:32 PM
[Last Edit: 8/16/2012 5:33:37 PM by Firefinder37]
Something that is reasonable price wise would be a unit from someone like APC (www.apc.com). For under 100 bucks you could get a UPS (uninterruptible power supply). APC won't make any outlandish claims about paying for your damaged equipment, but their products are good quality, and should give you some peace of mind.
Edit: Sirius/XM Sat Radio uses their products on the ground repeaters, read expensive equipment to replace. |
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Posted: 8/19/2012 4:09:13 AM
Most warranties are bs. My front door is rusted through. I find out it has a lifetime warranty so I check into it. Well they would not honor it bc i would not be able to prove that the door was painted before mkit was hung.
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Posted: 8/19/2012 4:37:31 AM
Sounds like the old Panamax surge protectors that were popular a few years ago. I never once heard of them honoring their warranty. The old stereo receiver we used for on hold music at work got killed by a surge, and Panamax wanted a ton of documentation including some of the paperwork signed by a PE. Even after jumping through all of their hoops, they still refused to pay.z
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Posted: 8/22/2012 9:42:16 AM
Originally Posted By 38_Special:
Thanks for the education. So, in terms of a $400 receiver, what would be a practical (cost wise) protection device? What about higher end electronics? Also, the lightening did not come from the outside line. It came in through our invisible fence. The first thing I would consider is talking to your local power company and getting your line into the house protected. I think it costs me like $6 a month, and also guarantees that if lightning gets past their surge protection, they pay to fix whatever gets lit up. Couple that with plug in protection, and you have a decent series set up to protect your electronics. |
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Posted: 8/23/2012 8:24:48 PM
For my computer, I'm still using an expensive Belkin surge protector that I bought in the late 90s when I worked at Best Buy. Surge protectors have a pretty hefty mark up in the stores.
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