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Posted: 10/14/2016 7:33:05 PM EDT
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I stoped going to church but if they would get active and not just kiss the activist popes ring I might return.
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Posted: 10/14/2016 8:17:43 PM EDT
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At Mass this week and last our Priest has been outspoken about the choices before us as Catholics living by the faith and values of the Church. He makes it very clear who that is. I was wondering if others have also had outspoken spiritual leaders at Church speaking on this subject? He explained how you should vote? |
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Posted: 10/14/2016 9:09:33 PM EDT
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I only have one true spiritual leader. Jesus Christ.
Everybody else is my brother. 
Matthew 20:26-28 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. https://gotquestions.org/spiritual-leader.html The Baptist churches I've been too, the pastors are not afraid to speak out. |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 9:35:57 PM EDT
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WOW I am hearing storys from all over. If you a don't do everything you can to keep FHRC from winning you are going to HELL.
This is good 
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Posted: 10/16/2016 1:50:29 PM EDT
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WOW I am hearing storys from all over. If you a don't do everything you can to keep FHRC from winning you are going to HELL. This is good  https://youtu.be/881aDDE5qFYDidn't watch the video, only responding to what you wrote. If I heard someone say that I'd walk out. They are full of it. And I can't stand the thought of her being president. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 2:48:29 PM EDT
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Didn't watch the video, only responding to what you wrote. If I heard someone say that I'd walk out. They are full of it. And I can't stand the thought of her being president. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WOW I am hearing storys from all over. If you a don't do everything you can to keep FHRC from winning you are going to HELL. This is good https://youtu.be/881aDDE5qFYDidn't watch the video, only responding to what you wrote. If I heard someone say that I'd walk out. They are full of it. And I can't stand the thought of her being president. Watch the video he is much more eloquent but basicly if you don't do everything possible to prevent abortion you are in fact supporting the murder of innocents and your soul is in danger. |
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Posted: 10/17/2016 1:18:22 PM EDT
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We have a very outspoken priest at my church. He had a very strong homily speaking about abortion. I do however, want to mention that priests and members of clergy need to be very careful on how the present the topic, as the Johnson Amendment prohibits non-profit organizations (Churches) from specifically supporting one candidate or party. The Johnson amendment is being challenged in the supreme court for violating 1st amendment rights however.
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Posted: 10/17/2016 3:11:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: At Mass this week and last our Priest has been outspoken about the choices before us as Catholics living by the faith and values of the Church. He makes it very clear who that is. I was wondering if others have also had outspoken spiritual leaders at Church speaking on this subject? The old Polish priest that celebrates the Traditional Latin Mass that my wife and I attend always gives homilies like that, talking about how we should emulate the saints and follow Christ, do what is right and holy, not what feels good, etc. It's as close to fire and brimstone as you'll find in a Catholic church. The theme of my favorite homily of his was "Jesus gives us all the answers, but we always ask for a second opinion." How right he is. It's a far cry from the "peace, love, and harmony, let's all feel good about ourselves" homilies that are so typical of many Catholic churches today. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:40:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The old Polish priest that celebrates the Traditional Latin Mass that my wife and I attend always gives homilies like that, talking about how we should emulate the saints and follow Christ, do what is right and holy, not what feels good, etc. It's as close to fire and brimstone as you'll find in a Catholic church. The theme of my favorite homily of his was "Jesus gives us all the answers, but we always ask for a second opinion." How right he is. It's a far cry from the "peace, love, and harmony, let's all feel good about ourselves" homilies that are so typical of many Catholic churches today. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: At Mass this week and last our Priest has been outspoken about the choices before us as Catholics living by the faith and values of the Church. He makes it very clear who that is. I was wondering if others have also had outspoken spiritual leaders at Church speaking on this subject? The old Polish priest that celebrates the Traditional Latin Mass that my wife and I attend always gives homilies like that, talking about how we should emulate the saints and follow Christ, do what is right and holy, not what feels good, etc. It's as close to fire and brimstone as you'll find in a Catholic church. The theme of my favorite homily of his was "Jesus gives us all the answers, but we always ask for a second opinion." How right he is. It's a far cry from the "peace, love, and harmony, let's all feel good about ourselves" homilies that are so typical of many Catholic churches today. We should hear our souls are at risk, God first, stop pleasing man and worry about what pleases God. Half of the posts here are that "second opinion". We didn't like what we were called to do so we found a church that agrees with our way of thinking and not necessarily Gods. I like your old Polish Priest. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 6:37:58 PM EDT
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We have a very outspoken priest at my church. He had a very strong homily speaking about abortion. I do however, want to mention that priests and members of clergy need to be very careful on how the present the topic, as the Johnson Amendment prohibits non-profit organizations (Churches) from specifically supporting one candidate or party. The Johnson amendment is being challenged in the supreme court for violating 1st amendment rights however. I get the feeling that the Catholic Church is pushing the envelope on this one as my mother told me she got the word of vote DT or your excommunicated... |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 7:01:10 PM EDT
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They might as well cut through all the BS and just say "god wants you to vote this way" like they used to do in the old days.
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Posted: 10/18/2016 7:09:42 PM EDT
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Our pastor is very outspoken without telling you directly who to vote for. But pretty obvious
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Posted: 10/19/2016 7:38:34 AM EDT
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I get the feeling that the Catholic Church is pushing the envelope on this one as my mother told me she got the word of vote DT or your excommunicated... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We have a very outspoken priest at my church. He had a very strong homily speaking about abortion. I do however, want to mention that priests and members of clergy need to be very careful on how the present the topic, as the Johnson Amendment prohibits non-profit organizations (Churches) from specifically supporting one candidate or party. The Johnson amendment is being challenged in the supreme court for violating 1st amendment rights however. I get the feeling that the Catholic Church is pushing the envelope on this one as my mother told me she got the word of vote DT or your excommunicated... Depends on your diocese. You've got some bishops who are very clear and are pretty pissed off about the Podesta wikileaks. Others not so much. Some probably don't want to jeopardize their cozy relationship with local politicians. But of course, Judas was the first Bishop to ever accept a government grant. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 7:07:36 PM EDT
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Judas was the first Bishop to ever accept a government grant. Please explain to me how Judas was a bishop, when there was no church, just a bunch if itinerant troublemakers. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:37:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get the feeling that the Catholic Church is pushing the envelope on this one as my mother told me she got the word of vote DT or your excommunicated... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We have a very outspoken priest at my church. He had a very strong homily speaking about abortion. I do however, want to mention that priests and members of clergy need to be very careful on how the present the topic, as the Johnson Amendment prohibits non-profit organizations (Churches) from specifically supporting one candidate or party. The Johnson amendment is being challenged in the supreme court for violating 1st amendment rights however. I get the feeling that the Catholic Church is pushing the envelope on this one as my mother told me she got the word of vote DT or your excommunicated... voted. The church won't excommunicate for how you vote. The won't even excommunicate the current politicians who are pro abortion or Tim Kaine would be a gonner. There will be an accounting of our choices as believers at the judgement. The scriptures are so clear about that. People need to worry about what God thinks and wants and not about this secular world. There is a third option. Trey Gowdy as a write in. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 10:42:42 AM EDT
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That is a bunch of malarkey. How is the church going to know how you voted. The church won't excommunicate for how you vote. The won't even excommunicate the current politicians who are pro abortion or Tim Kaine would be a gonner. There will be an accounting of our choices as believers at the judgement. The scriptures are so clear about that. People need to worry about what God thinks and wants and not about this secular world. There is a third option. Trey Gowdy as a write in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We have a very outspoken priest at my church. He had a very strong homily speaking about abortion. I do however, want to mention that priests and members of clergy need to be very careful on how the present the topic, as the Johnson Amendment prohibits non-profit organizations (Churches) from specifically supporting one candidate or party. The Johnson amendment is being challenged in the supreme court for violating 1st amendment rights however. I get the feeling that the Catholic Church is pushing the envelope on this one as my mother told me she got the word of vote DT or your excommunicated... There will be an accounting of our choices as believers at the judgement. The scriptures are so clear about that. People need to worry about what God thinks and wants and not about this secular world. There is a third option. Trey Gowdy as a write in. Great another FHRC supporter masquerading as a gun guy.... |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 10:47:04 AM EDT
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one loves babies, one loves babies in pieces
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