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Posted: 2/5/2015 4:35:27 PM EDT
Obama Insults Christians

February 5, 2015

Bill Donohue comments on remarks made today by President Obama at the National Prayer Breakfast:

In an attempt to deflect guilt from Muslim madmen, President Obama said, "Unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ." Obama's ignorance is astounding and his comparison is pernicious.

The Crusades were a defensive Christian reaction against Muslim madmen of the Middle Ages. Here is how Princeton scholar and Islamic expert Bernard Lewis puts it: "At the present time, the Crusades are often depicted as an early expansionist imperialism—a prefigurement of the modern European countries. To people of the time, both Muslim and Christian, they were no such thing." So what were they? "The Crusade was a delayed response to the jihad, the holy war for Islam, and its purpose was to recover by war what had been lost by war—to free the holy places of Christendom and open them once again, without impediment, to Christian pilgrimage."

Regarding the other fable, the Inquisition, the Catholic Church had almost nothing to do with it. The Church saw heretics as lost sheep who needed to be brought back into the fold. By contrast, secular authorities saw heresy as treason; anyone who questioned royal authority, or who challenged the idea that kingship was God-given, was guilty of a capital offense. It was they—not the Church—who burned the heretics. Indeed, secular authorities blasted the Church for its weak role in the Inquisition.

According to St. Louis University and Crusade scholar Thomas Madden, "All the Crusades met the criteria of just wars." How many ISIS atrocities, Mr. President, have met the criteria of just wars? The ones where they buried people alive, stoned children, raped women, and crucified men? Moreover, according to Henry Kamen, the leading authority on the Inquisition, a total of 1,394 people were killed during the Inquisition. Today, Muslim madmen kill more than that in a few months.

The President should apologize for his insulting comparison.

Obama Insuts Christians
Link Posted: 2/5/2015 6:26:33 PM EDT
[#1]
You nailed it op. Great job. Osamabama has a hard time saying things about Muslims because he is one. Remember when he first ran how important his "church" was. Don't think he's been in one since he got elected by the ignorant.
Link Posted: 2/7/2015 10:33:48 AM EDT
[#2]
It's good to put some perspective on it.  The high water mark was Tours 732 AD when the well trained and wel led Frankish infantry of Charles Martel (largely funded by the Church) defeated the heavy cavalry of the Umayyad Caliphate.  This was over 300 years before the first Crusade.  Islam killed, enslaved, forceably converted and displaced millions, the Crusades were indeed a reaction to this aggression.  Now in Europe, what they could not achieve by war they are achieving through reckless appeasement and political correctness gone mad.  In referencing a rallying cry of radical islamic murderers, Obama is giving their cause moral support.

Link Posted: 2/7/2015 11:33:39 AM EDT
[#3]
President Obama  must  no have t been paying attention in history class during the Crusades or in he only read the water down versions of the history of the Crusades.


Christians in the eleventh century were not paranoid fanatics. Muslims really were gunning for them. While Muslims can be peaceful, Islam was born in war and grew the same way. From the time of Mohammed, the means of Muslim expansion was always the sword. Muslim thought divides the world into two spheres, the Abode of Islam and the Abode of War. Christianity—and for that matter any other non-Muslim religion—has no abode. Christians and Jews can be tolerated within a Muslim state under Muslim rule. But, in traditional Islam, Christian and Jewish states must be destroyed and their lands conquered. When Mohammed was waging war against Mecca in the seventh century, Christianity was the dominant religion of power and wealth. As the faith of the Roman Empire, it spanned the entire Mediterranean, including the Middle East, where it was born. The Christian world, therefore, was a prime target for the earliest caliphs, and it would remain so for Muslim leaders for the next thousand years.





With enormous energy, the warriors of Islam struck out against the Christians shortly after Mohammed's death. They were extremely successful. Palestine, Syria, and Egypt—once the most heavily Christian areas in the world—quickly succumbed. By the eighth century, Muslim armies had conquered all of Christian North Africa and Spain. In the eleventh century, the Seljuk Turks conquered Asia Minor (modern Turkey), which had been Christian since the time of St. Paul. The old Roman Empire, known to modern historians as the Byzantine Empire, was reduced to little more than Greece. In desperation, the emperor in Constantinople sent word to the Christians of western Europe asking them to aid their brothers and sisters in the East and the Crusades were born. But historians leave a good bit of this out.


So not much has changed except here we are again. And Obama through out his campaign and administration has been anti Christian values consistently.


And this man will never experience the suffering a regular military family has to endure because for the rest of his days he and his family will be surrounded by secret service. We are supposed to be enlightened, intellectual and secular. So Catholics got attacked and compared to terrorists.





This comment was one of the most anti-American comments Obama has made since taking office. We are a country based on the very foundation he minimized. And he continues to attack those values.

 
Link Posted: 2/7/2015 2:02:16 PM EDT
[#4]
1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue, and Spain kicked out the Muslim crew!
Link Posted: 2/7/2015 2:07:01 PM EDT
[#5]
Tag
Link Posted: 2/18/2015 11:58:33 PM EDT
[#6]
The man always means the opposite of what he says.

So "lets not get on our high horse" means "I'm OK sitting here on my high horse".

It's OK for him to carefully distinguish between individuals who have zero connection with Islam....while condemning Christianity and the Church for the actions of individuals doing things on their own without being commanded it by Christianity or the Church. The massacre in Jerusalem happened only after the crusader leaders died in the initial assault leaving their men without leaders.... there was no Papal command to massacre everyone. The Papal legate had died the year before in Antioch so there was no Papal representative in the assault...but somehow the Church in particular and Christianity in general is at fault for "the crusades"?

See the double standard? For Islam we need to be hyper nuanced....but for Christianity...naw, any act of evil is attributable to the entire hemisphere, the 'haters'.

It's exactly how he views domestic politics.... every single mass murderer in the last 10 years has been either a nut or a Democrat and yet it's always the usual suspects condemning the Tea party, Fox News, talk radio, the 'right wing' and Christians for the 'hostile environment'.... so..... again, their people do something and they have zero culpability. Our people don't do anything but are collectively at fault for it.



Link Posted: 2/19/2015 8:39:56 AM EDT
[#7]
Let me just say that my opinions of Dear Leader are not very Christian...
Link Posted: 2/19/2015 8:56:54 AM EDT
[#8]
"... during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ."

This is a true statement.

People still do today.

Do they compare to what some Muslims have been doing lately?

No.

Then again, that statement makes no such assertion.
Link Posted: 2/19/2015 1:55:29 PM EDT
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"... during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ."

This is a true statement.

People still do today.

Do they compare to what some Muslims have been doing lately?

No.

Then again, that statement makes no such assertion.
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The hell it didn't....
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