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Posted: 10/15/2014 5:28:55 AM EDT
City of Houston Demands Pastors Turn Over Sermons

If you were the attorney for one of these Pastors, what would you do or advise your client?



Link Posted: 10/15/2014 9:29:14 PM EDT
[#1]
Never to give in.....

Absolutely inexcusable.
Link Posted: 10/15/2014 11:28:39 PM EDT
[#2]
It's just pitiful that there is a need for an Attorney.
Link Posted: 10/15/2014 11:36:10 PM EDT
[#3]
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Are you surprised?
I'm not.
This one won't legally fly though.
It is only a political ploy in order to initiate a legal precedent of some sort.
Good luck on that one mayor!
Link Posted: 10/16/2014 10:30:11 AM EDT
[#4]
Here's the actual request from the subpoena:

II. REQUESTED DOCUMENTS
YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PRODUCE THE FOLLOWING RECORDS:
1. All documents or communications to, from,  or forwarded to you,
or otherwise in your possession, relating or referring to any of the following in connection in any
way with HERO, the Petition:


a. Plaintiffs,
b. Annise Parker or the Mayor's office,
c. Anna Russell or the City Secretary's office,
d. David Feldman or the City Attorney's office,
e. HERO or any drafts of HERO,
f. the Petition, or any drafts of the Petition, including any discussions relating to
the language included at the top of the Petition,
g. the legal requirements for petitions under Texas, Houston municipal, or any
other law,
h. Petition signers,
1. Petition Circulators,
J. affidavits filled out by Petition Circulators, including the notarization of the
affidavits,
k. the payment of Petition Circulators,
1. funding of the Petition or petition drives,
m. the topics of equal rights, civil rights, homosexuality, or gender identity,
n. language relating to restroom access,
o. language related to restroom access being or having been removed from a
version of HERO, including any communications related to the removal of
that language,
p. any discussion about whether or how HERO does or does not impact restroom
access.
2. All communications to or from Plaintiffs.
3. All communications with the City regarding HERO or the Petition.
4. All communications with members of your congregation regarding HERO or the
Petition.
5. All communications with Joe La Rue or anyone else at the "Alliance Defending
Freedom" regarding HERO or the Petition.
6. All drafts of the Petition.
7. All lists of Petition Circulators.
8. All communications to or from Petition Circulators.
9. Any documents relating to the payment of Petition Circulators, including but not
limited to:

a. budgets related to the payment of Petition Circulators,
b. check stubs or check registers reflecting payments to Petition Circulators,
c. copies of checks made out to Petition Circulators,
d. tax forms relating to the payment of Petition circulators,
e. documents explaining calculation of payment to Petition Circulators,
f. documents referencing incentives given to Petition Circulators for obtaining
certain numbers of signatures or completing a certain number of pages.
10. Any documents relating to funding and funding sources of the Petition and
Petition-related activities.
11. All training materials prepared for Petition Circulators or anyone else involved in
the collection of any signatures for the Petition.

12. All speeches, presentations, or sermons related to HERO, the Petition, Mayor
Annise Parker, homosexuality, or gender identity prepared by, delivered by, revised by, or
approved by you or in your possession.


13. All documents, studies, information, communications, or other data relied on in
connection with the Petition to check, confirm, or ensure the truthfulness and accuracy of the
statements made in the Petition, including but not limited to the statements in the Petition (or in
any training materials prepared for Petition Circulators or anyone else involved in the collection
of any signatures for the Petition) that "Biological males ARE IN FACT allowed to enter
women's restrooms in Houston under Mayor Annise Parker's "Equal Rights Ordinance", thereby
threatening the physical and emotional safety of our women and children!" and that "Her ERO
creates UNequal Rights for a tiny group of people by taking away rights of safety and privacy for
the vast majority of our women and children!") (emphasis in original).

14. All documents, studies, information, communications, or other data that you
believe support or demonstrate the truthfulness and accuracy of the statements made in the
Petition, including but not limited to the statements in the Petition (or in any training materials
prepared for Petition Circulators or anyone else involved in the collection of any signatures for
the Petition) that "Biological males ARE IN FACT allowed to enter women's restrooms in
Houston under Mayor Annise Parker's "Equal Rights Ordinance", thereby threatening the
physical and emotional safety of our women and children!" and that "Her ERO creates UNequal
Rights for a tiny group of people by taking away rights of safety and privacy for the vast
majority of our women and children!") (emphasis in original).
15. All communications with Pastor Dave Welch or anyone else at or associated with
the Houston Area Pastor Council referring or relating to HERO, restroom access in connection
with HERO, the Petition, or this litigation.
16. All documents or communications reflecting or relating to the validity of
signatures on the Petition or the validity of any Petition Pages, including but not limited to
correspondence, notes, spreadsheets, or other documents regarding:
a. the validity of signatures,
b. the registered-voter status of any signatories,
c. the number of valid signatures,
d. the validity of Petition pages,
e. the validity of Circulator Oaths.
17. Your updated resume or curriculum vitae.


Link Posted: 10/16/2014 10:39:56 AM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 10/16/2014 10:46:25 AM EDT
[#6]
Like I said, "Good luck with that one mayor!"

Thanks for the linky!
Link Posted: 10/16/2014 10:48:26 AM EDT
[#7]
guess id hand in the BIBLE
Link Posted: 10/16/2014 11:15:47 AM EDT
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would ye?
Link Posted: 10/17/2014 11:48:14 PM EDT
[#9]
Its sad the 3% of the American people who are gay are bullying the 97% who arent. The movement has to start of God fearing, God loving men before we end up secretly meeting in basements like they do in China.
Link Posted: 10/18/2014 7:46:00 AM EDT
[#10]
UPDATE FROM CITY OF HOUSTON:

Houston To Pastors: Forget Your Sermons--We Now Want Your "Speeches"

"According to the Houston Chronicle, Mayor Parker said on Friday, "We don't need to intrude on matters of faith to have equal rights in Houston, and it was never the intention of the city of Houston to intrude on any matters of faith or to get between a pastor and their parishioners."

Folks, that's a load of grade A fertilizer."
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Link Posted: 10/18/2014 7:57:45 AM EDT
[#11]
Can not wait for a new mayor!
Link Posted: 10/18/2014 8:39:25 AM EDT
[#12]
a good response would be "go f*ck yourself"
Link Posted: 10/18/2014 2:13:46 PM EDT
[#13]
Houston needs to recall her.


Not because of any other reason but because of her lack of understanding of the constitution and blatant abuse of power.




 
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 8:54:24 AM EDT
[#14]
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It really isn't those 3% generally speaking that are. Obviously, this case is one exception, but a good portion of those 3% really don't care. I personally know a few, and they really aren't the gay pride nazi types. The rest of those 3% along with a good portion of the rest of society who dislike God are the ones that are the loudest and pushing the hardest for this type of thing.
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