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Posted: 5/8/2012 7:25:10 PM
Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
I pity your zealotry. (Yeah, I know. You don't need pity. You don't need anything.) So far atheist have been called zealots and retards in this thread......If that doesn't paint a nice enough picture of the true feelings behind Christians than I don't know what does.  Pitiful. In our brief exchanges you have gone out of your way to besmirch Christians or Christianity three times. I've posted no such negativity. I don't know why you have that chip on your shoulder, or what pain lives in your heart, but it is worthy of pity. |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 11:03:28 PM
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
I pity your zealotry. (Yeah, I know. You don't need pity. You don't need anything.) So far atheist have been called zealots and retards in this thread......If that doesn't paint a nice enough picture of the true feelings behind Christians than I don't know what does. Pitiful. In our brief exchanges you have gone out of your way to besmirch Christians or Christianity three times. I've posted no such negativity. I don't know why you have that chip on your shoulder, or what pain lives in your heart, but it is worthy of pity. Uh, you ARE the one that called me a zealot. What's pitiful is your hatred of atheists..... |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 11:26:24 PM
No such hatred exists on my part. Only pity. In contrast, I could point to countless posts in other threads that adequately demonstrate your anti-Christian bias and the frequency with which you disdain Christians and Christianity in general. Your attitude and commentary are generally inappropriate. Leave the forum, please. This is a religion forum.
Ask the mods to set up an atheist forum or some such. Then you and your kind can continue the Christian bashing unhindered. I would suspect that if such a forum existed, you wouldn't have many people of faith contributing. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case in regard to many atheists and the religion forum. |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 11:40:08 PM
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
No such hatred exists on my part. Only pity. In contrast, I could point to countless posts in other threads that adequately demonstrate your anti-Christian bias and the frequency with which you disdain Christians and Christianity in general. Your attitude and commentary are generally inappropriate. Leave the forum, please. This is a religion forum. Ask the mods to set up an atheist forum or some such. Then you and your kind can continue the Christian bashing unhindered. I would suspect that if such a forum existed, you wouldn't have many people of faith contributing. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case in regard to many atheists and the religion forum. So the thread title reads "Sudden upswing of anit-Christianity/atheism" and you feel that, as an atheist, I shouldn't participate in this thread? Interesting....... At any rate, go ahead and look up all my posts in the religion thread and PLEASE, tell me how many times I EVER call anyone a name, much less a retard. I'll be standing by...... While you're at it, since you seem to want me to leave the religion forum, point out how many threads pertaining to prayer where people are asking for prayer or where people are seeking direction within their religion that I post in. Seriously, I'm curious..... If you can't stand someone with a different world view interjecting their opinion on various religious matters, or an atheist posting in a thread that mentions the growth of atheism IN THE TITLE, then maybe you need to step back and look at your own faith and ask why it bothers you so much. 
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Posted: 5/9/2012 3:17:52 AM
Originally Posted By TWIRE: Originally Posted By Woody600: Originally Posted By 1cheapshot: This has been on going since early Communist infiltration into this country. It was largely underground for the first 50 years. Once Communist thought spread to Liberal Americans it started coming out in the late 50's and the 60's. The initial push of getting religion out came with the removal of prayer from schools, in my opinion. I also believe Roe v Wade has had an effect for Athiesim in America. It's a slow and steady pace of Marxist thought in this country. Atheist and more liberal than the average arfcommer (often knee-jerk reactionary), I hardly believe that my lack of belief is because of communist. I attribute it to questioning and analyzing what I am told and educating myself. Also, simply because the USSR was officially atheist proves no correlation between communism and atheism. They can exist independently or together but neither requires the other to exist. You owe me a keyboard. On what grounds? |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 3:26:19 AM
Originally Posted By TWIRE: Actually, the 'rise of atheism,' itself a quasi-religious movement, is simply a fad. All the cool kids are doing it. Just like tatoos and running marathons. Unfortunately, the damages of anti-theism are much longer lasting. Define "the damages of anti-theism" as you see it please. And please include the scope and scale of these damages. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 4:01:17 AM
Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
No such hatred exists on my part. Only pity. In contrast, I could point to countless posts in other threads that adequately demonstrate your anti-Christian bias and the frequency with which you disdain Christians and Christianity in general. Your attitude and commentary are generally inappropriate. Leave the forum, please. This is a religion forum. Ask the mods to set up an atheist forum or some such. Then you and your kind can continue the Christian bashing unhindered. I would suspect that if such a forum existed, you wouldn't have many people of faith contributing. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case in regard to many atheists and the religion forum. So the thread title reads "Sudden upswing of anit-Christianity/atheism" and you feel that, as an atheist, I shouldn't participate in this thread? Interesting....... At any rate, go ahead and look up all my posts in the religion thread and PLEASE, tell me how many times I EVER call anyone a name, much less a retard. I'll be standing by...... While you're at it, since you seem to want me to leave the religion forum, point out how many threads pertaining to prayer where people are asking for prayer or where people are seeking direction within their religion that I post in. Seriously, I'm curious..... If you can't stand someone with a different world view interjecting their opinion on various religious matters, or an atheist posting in a thread that mentions the growth of atheism IN THE TITLE, then maybe you need to step back and look at your own faith and ask why it bothers you so much.
I’ll vouch for Hoody, despite his belief in a world view that leaves a historical trail of death and destruction... he’s about as class act as it gets around here and I think he brings a good element to this forum. Well constructed questions and about as respectful conversation as any of the rest of us dole out. I for one am glad he sticks around. I don’t understand the concept of this forum unless we can discuss various strongly held beliefs in some kind of manner. I’ll also vouch for Twire, despite his allegiance to the Vatican I enjoy reading his posts and having him around. 
I think the problem here may simply be the lack of tone present in a text only conversation. A comment can be construed as criticism simply by not understanding the frame of mind of the other guy. The other problem is neither one of you is reading enough Martin Luther. 
It’s all good fellers. On topic, I do think we are seeing a more concerted effort to not just criticize Christianity but to shout-down and remove the cultural influence of Christians. The Christian notion that basic morality must stem from a moral law reminds the culture that Christians belive in a moral law giver who each of us must be accountable to . Tolerance is becoming the acceptance of anything but the notion of moral absolutes. check it |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 5:19:13 AM
Originally Posted By T1NMAN:
Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
No such hatred exists on my part. Only pity. In contrast, I could point to countless posts in other threads that adequately demonstrate your anti-Christian bias and the frequency with which you disdain Christians and Christianity in general. Your attitude and commentary are generally inappropriate. Leave the forum, please. This is a religion forum. Ask the mods to set up an atheist forum or some such. Then you and your kind can continue the Christian bashing unhindered. I would suspect that if such a forum existed, you wouldn't have many people of faith contributing. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case in regard to many atheists and the religion forum. So the thread title reads "Sudden upswing of anit-Christianity/atheism" and you feel that, as an atheist, I shouldn't participate in this thread? Interesting....... At any rate, go ahead and look up all my posts in the religion thread and PLEASE, tell me how many times I EVER call anyone a name, much less a retard. I'll be standing by...... While you're at it, since you seem to want me to leave the religion forum, point out how many threads pertaining to prayer where people are asking for prayer or where people are seeking direction within their religion that I post in. Seriously, I'm curious..... If you can't stand someone with a different world view interjecting their opinion on various religious matters, or an atheist posting in a thread that mentions the growth of atheism IN THE TITLE, then maybe you need to step back and look at your own faith and ask why it bothers you so much.
I’ll vouch for Hoody, despite his belief in a world view that leaves a historical trail of death and destruction... he’s about as class act as it gets around here and I think he brings a good element to this forum. Well constructed questions and about as respectful conversation as any of the rest of us dole out. I for one am glad he sticks around. I don’t understand the concept of this forum unless we can discuss various strongly held beliefs in some kind of manner. I’ll also vouch for Twire, despite his allegiance to the Vatican I enjoy reading his posts and having him around.
I think the problem here may simply be the lack of tone present in a text only conversation. A comment can be construed as criticism simply by not understanding the frame of mind of the other guy. The other problem is neither one of you is reading enough Martin Luther.
It’s all good fellers. On topic, I do think we are seeing a more concerted effort to not just criticize Christianity but to shout-down and remove the cultural influence of Christians. The Christian notion that basic morality must stem from a moral law reminds the culture that Christians belive in a moral law giver who each of us must be accountable to . Tolerance is becoming the acceptance of anything but the notion of moral absolutes. check it I believe this is where I went right at the beginning. Many of our laws and even the Constitution recognizes that there is a Christian Morality to our country and indeed this morality and desire to follow our own hearts and minds regarding religious practices is at the core of American Exceptionalism. We believe that not only do WE have the right to practice what we believe UNMOLESTED but YOU as well! You CAN be an atheist (for example) and we support your belief/non belief. We are NOT required to agree with you. You are NOT required to agree with us. We ARE allowed to express, advocate, practice, believe, as WE see fit; NOT you. You have no right to dictate to us where when or how we may practice. Same with us. I reserve my right to disagree with you. That is my right and my privilege. You do NOT have the right to silence or prevent me from practice. This is the problem we are mentioning here at the core of this post. The rise of atheism and Lib tard media working together to ridicule and marginalize good people for no other reason than to tear down the moral rule of law we have established here in the US. As for Marxism and Fascists? They began by invading the religious services with ideas not from biblical ideas. The goal was to remove the moral code of society and to implement their own idea. The goal was to supplant the religion with a religion of government. Read the manifestos of Marx and Lenin, Stalin, Mao. They were atheists who believed they knew what was best for the populous. Sound familiar? Look where it went. Look to as I shall put it from the bible...'The fruits of their labor"....murder, rape, genocide....all for government. No thanks....I'll pass on that. I am keeping my religious beliefs. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 5:21:37 AM
Historical trail of death and destruction?
I think that is just mankind's "default setting." Religion or the lack thereof is irrelevant. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 5:56:04 AM
Originally Posted By Woody600:
Historical trail of death and destruction? I think that is just mankind's "default setting." Religion or the lack thereof is irrelevant. That right there is almost right out of the Bible. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 8:10:42 AM
[Last Edit: 5/9/2012 8:12:05 AM by paris-dakar]
Originally Posted By Woody600:
Also, simply because the USSR was officially atheist proves no correlation between communism and atheism. They can exist independently or together but neither requires the other to exist. That's false. Atheism was intrinsic to so-called scientific socialism. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 8:43:25 AM
[Last Edit: 5/9/2012 8:46:54 AM by Strongbow]
Originally Posted By T1NMAN:
I’ll vouch for Hoody, despite his belief in a world view that leaves a historical trail of death and destruction... he’s about as class act as it gets around here and I think he brings a good element to this forum. Well constructed questions and about as respectful conversation as any of the rest of us dole out. I for one am glad he sticks around. I don’t understand the concept of this forum unless we can discuss various strongly held beliefs in some kind of manner. I’ll also vouch for Twire, despite his allegiance to the Vatican I enjoy reading his posts and having him around.
I think the problem here may simply be the lack of tone present in a text only conversation. A comment can be construed as criticism simply by not understanding the frame of mind of the other guy. The other problem is neither one of you is reading enough Martin Luther.
It’s all good fellers. On topic, I do think we are seeing a more concerted effort to not just criticize Christianity but to shout-down and remove the cultural influence of Christians. The Christian notion that basic morality must stem from a moral law reminds the culture that Christians belive in a moral law giver who each of us must be accountable to . Tolerance is becoming the acceptance of anything but the notion of moral absolutes. check it The concept is, in my opinion, intellectually indefensible. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 8:45:52 AM
Originally Posted By GoatHerder:
Originally Posted By T1NMAN:
Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
No such hatred exists on my part. Only pity. In contrast, I could point to countless posts in other threads that adequately demonstrate your anti-Christian bias and the frequency with which you disdain Christians and Christianity in general. Your attitude and commentary are generally inappropriate. Leave the forum, please. This is a religion forum. Ask the mods to set up an atheist forum or some such. Then you and your kind can continue the Christian bashing unhindered. I would suspect that if such a forum existed, you wouldn't have many people of faith contributing. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case in regard to many atheists and the religion forum. So the thread title reads "Sudden upswing of anit-Christianity/atheism" and you feel that, as an atheist, I shouldn't participate in this thread? Interesting....... At any rate, go ahead and look up all my posts in the religion thread and PLEASE, tell me how many times I EVER call anyone a name, much less a retard. I'll be standing by...... While you're at it, since you seem to want me to leave the religion forum, point out how many threads pertaining to prayer where people are asking for prayer or where people are seeking direction within their religion that I post in. Seriously, I'm curious..... If you can't stand someone with a different world view interjecting their opinion on various religious matters, or an atheist posting in a thread that mentions the growth of atheism IN THE TITLE, then maybe you need to step back and look at your own faith and ask why it bothers you so much.
I’ll vouch for Hoody, despite his belief in a world view that leaves a historical trail of death and destruction... he’s about as class act as it gets around here and I think he brings a good element to this forum. Well constructed questions and about as respectful conversation as any of the rest of us dole out. I for one am glad he sticks around. I don’t understand the concept of this forum unless we can discuss various strongly held beliefs in some kind of manner. I’ll also vouch for Twire, despite his allegiance to the Vatican I enjoy reading his posts and having him around.
I think the problem here may simply be the lack of tone present in a text only conversation. A comment can be construed as criticism simply by not understanding the frame of mind of the other guy. The other problem is neither one of you is reading enough Martin Luther.
It’s all good fellers. On topic, I do think we are seeing a more concerted effort to not just criticize Christianity but to shout-down and remove the cultural influence of Christians. The Christian notion that basic morality must stem from a moral law reminds the culture that Christians belive in a moral law giver who each of us must be accountable to . Tolerance is becoming the acceptance of anything but the notion of moral absolutes. check it I believe this is where I went right at the beginning. Many of our laws and even the Constitution recognizes that there is a Christian Morality to our country and indeed this morality and desire to follow our own hearts and minds regarding religious practices is at the core of American Exceptionalism. We believe that not only do WE have the right to practice what we believe UNMOLESTED but YOU as well! You CAN be an atheist (for example) and we support your belief/non belief. We are NOT required to agree with you. You are NOT required to agree with us. We ARE allowed to express, advocate, practice, believe, as WE see fit; NOT you. You have no right to dictate to us where when or how we may practice. Same with us. I reserve my right to disagree with you. That is my right and my privilege. You do NOT have the right to silence or prevent me from practice. This is the problem we are mentioning here at the core of this post. The rise of atheism and Lib tard media working together to ridicule and marginalize good people for no other reason than to tear down the moral rule of law we have established here in the US. As for Marxism and Fascists? They began by invading the religious services with ideas not from biblical ideas. The goal was to remove the moral code of society and to implement their own idea. The goal was to supplant the religion with a religion of government. Read the manifestos of Marx and Lenin, Stalin, Mao. They were atheists who believed they knew what was best for the populous. Sound familiar? Look where it went. Look to as I shall put it from the bible...'The fruits of their labor"....murder, rape, genocide....all for government. No thanks....I'll pass on that. I am keeping my religious beliefs. That's not quite true, IMO. If you attempt to impose your religious beliefs through the force of secular law, you may NOT do that, even if it constitutes a "practice" of your religion. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 10:10:21 AM
Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
No such hatred exists on my part. Only pity. In contrast, I could point to countless posts in other threads that adequately demonstrate your anti-Christian bias and the frequency with which you disdain Christians and Christianity in general. Your attitude and commentary are generally inappropriate. Leave the forum, please. This is a religion forum. Ask the mods to set up an atheist forum or some such. Then you and your kind can continue the Christian bashing unhindered. I would suspect that if such a forum existed, you wouldn't have many people of faith contributing. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case in regard to many atheists and the religion forum. So the thread title reads "Sudden upswing of anit-Christianity/atheism" and you feel that, as an atheist, I shouldn't participate in this thread? Interesting....... At any rate, go ahead and look up all my posts in the religion thread and PLEASE, tell me how many times I EVER call anyone a name, much less a retard. I'll be standing by...... While you're at it, since you seem to want me to leave the religion forum, point out how many threads pertaining to prayer where people are asking for prayer or where people are seeking direction within their religion that I post in. Seriously, I'm curious..... If you can't stand someone with a different world view interjecting their opinion on various religious matters, or an atheist posting in a thread that mentions the growth of atheism IN THE TITLE, then maybe you need to step back and look at your own faith and ask why it bothers you so much.
Nah. You can stay in the religion forum if you so desire. But as someone who is not religious, it really serves no purpose except to stroke your own ego by being able to post commentary antithetical and generally completely obtuse to the direction of most topics here. You posted once in a thread about proselytizing and yet you cling to threads in this forum for that exact purpose. Suit yourself. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 10:17:37 AM
Originally Posted By Woody600:
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
Originally Posted By Woody600:
Originally Posted By 1cheapshot:
This has been on going since early Communist infiltration into this country. It was largely underground for the first 50 years. Once Communist thought spread to Liberal Americans it started coming out in the late 50's and the 60's. The initial push of getting religion out came with the removal of prayer from schools, in my opinion. I also believe Roe v Wade has had an effect for Athiesim in America. It's a slow and steady pace of Marxist thought in this country. Atheist and more liberal than the average arfcommer (often knee-jerk reactionary), I hardly believe that my lack of belief is because of communist. I attribute it to questioning and analyzing what I am told and educating myself. Also, simply because the USSR was officially atheist proves no correlation between communism and atheism. They can exist independently or together but neither requires the other to exist. You owe me a keyboard. On what grounds? I was following you up until that last statement. But that's just ignorance. Leninist-Marxist regimes will tolerate no power that threatens the state and are resolutely anti-religion and atheist. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 10:21:05 AM
Originally Posted By Woody600:
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
Actually, the 'rise of atheism,' itself a quasi-religious movement, is simply a fad. All the cool kids are doing it. Just like tatoos and running marathons. Unfortunately, the damages of anti-theism are much longer lasting. Define "the damages of anti-theism" as you see it please. And please include the scope and scale of these damages. First and foremost, the lost your immortal soul. Pretty much doesn't get any more damaging than that. I can think of several societal issues that have been impacted by the removal of God from the secular world - education, government, etc. But rather I would like for you to list some things that have improved since the removal of God. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 11:58:53 AM
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
Originally Posted By Woody600:
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
Actually, the 'rise of atheism,' itself a quasi-religious movement, is simply a fad. All the cool kids are doing it. Just like tatoos and running marathons. Unfortunately, the damages of anti-theism are much longer lasting. Define "the damages of anti-theism" as you see it please. And please include the scope and scale of these damages. First and foremost, the lost your immortal soul. Pretty much doesn't get any more damaging than that. I can think of several societal issues that have been impacted by the removal of God from the secular world - education, government, etc. But rather I would like for you to list some things that have improved since the removal of God. I'm not the OP, but I'll play a little. 1) I don't believe souls exist. You do. That's fine. But for me, the loss of something I don't think exists isn't "damaging." 2) I personally think removing religion from public policy leads to more liberty, and I favor liberty. Also, for me personally, I think I have benefited from favoring an evidence-based rational worldview, instead of a faith-based magical world view, though I often miss the wonder I felt as a believer when younger. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 12:37:46 PM
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"I'm not the OP, but I'll play a little.
1) I don't believe souls exist. You do. That's fine. But for me, the loss of something I don't think exists isn't "damaging." 2) I personally think removing religion from public policy leads to more liberty, and I favor liberty. Also, for me personally, I think I have benefited from favoring an evidence-based rational worldview, instead of a faith-based magical world view, though I often miss the wonder I felt as a believer when younger.[/quote] "  Strongbow, will you explain a little more with the no soul thing. I am curious.
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Posted: 5/9/2012 12:44:06 PM
Originally Posted By GoatHerder: And btw....I used to be religious too, but unlike some I have a mind of my own and I do not follow what the theists are spewing out as observable "truths"Yes...if the bible is to be believed then we are seeing an upswing of Satan and his minions as time grows shorter with the help of the lib retard media. And btw.....I am very hightly educated too but unlike some I have a mind of my own and I do not fallow what the LIb Retards are spewing out as educated drivel. I have decided on my own 1- There is a Supreme Being that created this world 2- I believe we are responsible for our actions. 3. We will have to answer to this Supreme Being for our actions good and bad 1-I've seen no evidence of a supreme being having any part in creating the universe or the world. 2-We are responsible for our actions. 3-The only justice we have is justice on earth, if we don't get it here, we aren't going to get if anywhere else. Funny how that works. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 12:48:27 PM
Originally Posted By TWIRE: So independent critical thinking is a fad? Yeah okay.Actually, the 'rise of atheism,' itself a quasi-religious movement, is simply a fad. All the cool kids are doing it. Just like tatoos and running marathons. Unfortunately, the damages of anti-theism are much longer lasting. Like it or not, a great deal of atheists have firm, independently arrived at logical reasons for their atheism. Infact, I was a theist before I became an atheist, and trust me, "being cool" was the last thing on my mind. I simply realized theism didn't have any facts to support it, so why believe it? |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 12:50:22 PM
Originally Posted By TWIRE: I pity your zealotry. (Yeah, I know. You don't need pity. You don't need anything.) I pitty your imagined superiority and critically flawed worldview. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 12:52:35 PM
Originally Posted By paris-dakar: Originally Posted By Woody600: Also, simply because the USSR was officially atheist proves no correlation between communism and atheism. They can exist independently or together but neither requires the other to exist. That's false. Atheism was intrinsic to so-called scientific socialism. Just like christianity is intrinsic to the so called "Christian socialism" in south america? Got it. Both atheism and christianity breed socialism. Islam and Sharia law FTW!!!!! |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 1:01:58 PM
Originally Posted By fatalerror113:
Originally Posted By GoatHerder:
And btw....I used to be religious too, but unlike some I have a mind of my own and I do not follow what the theists are spewing out as observable "truths"
Yes...if the bible is to be believed then we are seeing an upswing of Satan and his minions as time grows shorter with the help of the lib retard media. And btw.....I am very hightly educated too but unlike some I have a mind of my own and I do not fallow what the LIb Retards are spewing out as educated drivel. I have decided on my own 1- There is a Supreme Being that created this world 2- I believe we are responsible for our actions. 3. We will have to answer to this Supreme Being for our actions good and bad 1-I've seen no evidence of a supreme being having any part in creating the universe or the world. 2-We are responsible for our actions. 3-The only justice we have is justice on earth, if we don't get it here, we aren't going to get if anywhere else. Funny how that works. For you number 1... All the particles it takes to make up a human body, do you believe the combination to be random that created us? |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 1:22:31 PM
Originally Posted By Strongbow:
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
Originally Posted By Woody600:
Originally Posted By TWIRE:
Actually, the 'rise of atheism,' itself a quasi-religious movement, is simply a fad. All the cool kids are doing it. Just like tatoos and running marathons. Unfortunately, the damages of anti-theism are much longer lasting. Define "the damages of anti-theism" as you see it please. And please include the scope and scale of these damages. First and foremost, the lost your immortal soul. Pretty much doesn't get any more damaging than that. I can think of several societal issues that have been impacted by the removal of God from the secular world - education, government, etc. But rather I would like for you to list some things that have improved since the removal of God. I'm not the OP, but I'll play a little. 1) I don't believe souls exist. You do. That's fine. But for me, the loss of something I don't think exists isn't "damaging." 2) I personally think removing religion from public policy leads to more liberty, and I favor liberty. Also, for me personally, I think I have benefited from favoring an evidence-based rational worldview, instead of a faith-based magical world view, though I often miss the wonder I felt as a believer when younger. I'll bite. Give examples. I mean their are obvious examples like prohibition and such, but something in recent memory. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 1:26:29 PM
[Last Edit: 5/9/2012 1:27:48 PM by fatalerror113]
Originally Posted By SpeechPathJunkie: Originally Posted By fatalerror113: Originally Posted By GoatHerder: And btw....I used to be religious too, but unlike some I have a mind of my own and I do not follow what the theists are spewing out as observable "truths"Yes...if the bible is to be believed then we are seeing an upswing of Satan and his minions as time grows shorter with the help of the lib retard media. And btw.....I am very hightly educated too but unlike some I have a mind of my own and I do not fallow what the LIb Retards are spewing out as educated drivel. I have decided on my own 1- There is a Supreme Being that created this world 2- I believe we are responsible for our actions. 3. We will have to answer to this Supreme Being for our actions good and bad 1-I've seen no evidence of a supreme being having any part in creating the universe or the world. 2-We are responsible for our actions. 3-The only justice we have is justice on earth, if we don't get it here, we aren't going to get if anywhere else. Funny how that works. For you number 1... All the particles it takes to make up a human body, do you believe the combination to be random that created us? Random? Not at all. They are a product of the laws of physics. |
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