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Anyone notice this in the culture lately? I am not religious nor a Christian but I respect non-murderous religious beliefs and myself believe in the god of Abraham. But it is weirding me out how hostile the popular culture and government is becoming toward what used to be normal common religious practices and beliefs.
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Glad I am not the only one noticing it. There are atheists that don't try to start stuff and there are the other kinds to. Just as there are obnoxious Christians. But there has always been a war against religion buy "non-beleavers" and the government.

No worries Christianity is alive and well as with other large organized religions.
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Posted: 4/28/2012 10:09:31 PM
"shake off all the fears & servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson

People as a whole are becoming more educated. Statistically speaking, the higher the IQ the less people are inclined to believe in a 3,000 year old fable void of concrete evidence.

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Posted: 4/29/2012 6:33:11 PM
This has been on going since early Communist infiltration into this country. It was largely underground for the first 50 years. Once Communist thought spread to Liberal Americans it started coming out in the late 50's and the 60's. The initial push of getting religion out came with the removal of prayer from schools, in my opinion. I also believe Roe v Wade has had an effect for Athiesim in America. It's a slow and steady pace of Marxist thought in this country.
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All media driven.. The commies just push what they want and make it seem bigger than it is.
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Posted: 4/29/2012 6:46:20 PM
The retards have just become more vocal.
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Foretold:

Let us examine 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 (NASB).

"1Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2 that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. 5 Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? 6 And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. 8 Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; 9 that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, 10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness."

Matthew 24:10, “Many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another”.
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Posted: 5/3/2012 11:08:46 PM
Yes...if the bible is to be believed then we are seeing an upswing of Satan and his minions as time grows shorter with the help of the lib retard media.


And btw.....I am very hightly educated too but unlike some I have a mind of my own and I do not fallow what the LIb Retards are spewing out as educated drivel. I have decided on my own

1- There is a Supreme Being that created this world

2- I believe we are responsible for our actions.

3. We will have to answer to this Supreme Being for our actions good and bad
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Posted: 5/4/2012 4:16:04 AM

Originally Posted By 1cheapshot:
This has been on going since early Communist infiltration into this country. It was largely underground for the first 50 years. Once Communist thought spread to Liberal Americans it started coming out in the late 50's and the 60's. The initial push of getting religion out came with the removal of prayer from schools, in my opinion. I also believe Roe v Wade has had an effect for Athiesim in America. It's a slow and steady pace of Marxist thought in this country.

Atheist and more liberal than the average arfcommer (often knee-jerk reactionary), I hardly believe that my lack of belief is because of communist. I attribute it to questioning and analyzing what I am told and educating myself.

Also, simply because the USSR was officially atheist proves no correlation between communism and atheism. They can exist independently or together but neither requires the other to exist.
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Posted: 5/4/2012 4:16:36 AM

Originally Posted By Lootie23:
The retards have just become more vocal.

How polite of you.
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Posted: 5/4/2012 4:18:00 AM

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Matthew 24:10, "Many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another”.

It seems that the faithful do their fair share of hatin' too (i.e. different religions, atheists, homosexuals, varying political outlooks, et cetera).
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Posted: 5/4/2012 11:22:00 AM
Originally Posted By Woody600:

Originally Posted By shortround:


Matthew 24:10, "Many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another”.

It seems that the faithful do their fair share of hatin' too (i.e. different religions, atheists, homosexuals, varying political outlooks, et cetera).


And where have you educated yourself? Outside the realm of the popular anti-theists and liberal historians? If we're talking science and evolutionary books, those generally seek to only further my belief and notions of God than undermine it.

As with anything it's an exercise in willful ignorance to take any one side's claims as the truth without examining both sides and then coming to a conclusion based on that. If you have, ignore these first two paragraphs.

On 'hatin', it's like I mentioned in another thread today. Just because someone says that they're a Christian doesn't mean that they are. We are called to speak the message of God with love according to Jesus. Many do wrong in the name of Christ and of God, even Hitler tried to justify his atrocities in that manner. On the issues at hand, I , for one, have just as much problem with adultery, sex outside of marriage, divorce, greed, and hypocrisy as I do with homosexuality. To pick on one issue and avoid the others is to miss the issue that sin is sin. Only one is incapable of repentance, and it's not one listed above.

I do understand why some Christians would speak out against the seemingly 'gay agenda' that has came to prominence almost in parallel with the growing anti-Christian/anti-theist/"new atheist" movement. Those that study and understand the Bible realize that in the Old Testament, God would grow angry with Israel and Judah for turning to lives of sin and idolatry, and most likely they fear the same for our country. With the rise of these things and ideas, along with the sexual 'revolution', rampant greed and corruption, we can almost plot the country's fall into troubled times alongside things such as the above. This is the base of where Fred Phelp's cult base their arguments, they however, are so full of closed-minded hate that they refuse to see the message of love and repentance sent to us.

Finally, the verse that you were poking at, was actually speaking more to the issue at hand, and not very relevant to the direction that you took it. It speaks of people who once had faith falling away and betraying those that they once called brothers, it goes hand in hand with a passage later in the Bible that speaks of false teachings and the world leading many astray, even the once strong in faith. Taking things out of context can be a clever tool, but not necessarily the most honest one, and that goes for people on either side of the issue.
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Posted: 5/8/2012 10:48:44 AM
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Originally Posted By 1cheapshot:
This has been on going since early Communist infiltration into this country. It was largely underground for the first 50 years. Once Communist thought spread to Liberal Americans it started coming out in the late 50's and the 60's. The initial push of getting religion out came with the removal of prayer from schools, in my opinion. I also believe Roe v Wade has had an effect for Athiesim in America. It's a slow and steady pace of Marxist thought in this country.

Atheist and more liberal than the average arfcommer (often knee-jerk reactionary), I hardly believe that my lack of belief is because of communist. I attribute it to questioning and analyzing what I am told and educating myself.

Also, simply because the USSR was officially atheist proves no correlation between communism and atheism. They can exist independently or together but neither requires the other to exist.


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Actually, the 'rise of atheism,' itself a quasi-religious movement, is simply a fad. All the cool kids are doing it. Just like tatoos and running marathons. Unfortunately, the damages of anti-theism are much longer lasting.
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The retards have just become more vocal.




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Actually, the 'rise of atheism,' itself a quasi-religious movement, is simply a fad. All the cool kids are doing it. Just like tatoos and running marathons. Unfortunately, the damages of anti-theism are much longer lasting.


The beliefs I have regarding what happens when you die, where people came from, morals, how I will raise my son and all that other jazz is as important to me as an atheist as it is to you. I assure you, it's not a fad........


On another note, some of the comments and misconceptions about atheist in this thread just show me what theism is all about.....I've been here long enough, unfortunately I already know what to expect from "Christians"
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Originally Posted By raven:
Anyone notice this in the culture lately? I am not religious nor a Christian but I respect non-murderous religious beliefs and myself believe in the god of Abraham. But it is weirding me out how hostile the popular culture and government is becoming toward what used to be normal common religious practices and beliefs.


It's due to the LGBT movement taught in schools and in the media.

They feel that Christians judge their life style. So the media, Hollywood, and gay activits groups (e.g. "It Gets Better") have organized campaigns to ridicule and denigrate religion.

Religions have a codified rules for society and the homosexual lifestyle does not fit. So, get rid of the rules and call those that follow religion –– 'intolerant'.
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Originally Posted By raven:
Anyone notice this in the culture lately? I am not religious nor a Christian but I respect non-murderous religious beliefs and myself believe in the god of Abraham. But it is weirding me out how hostile the popular culture and government is becoming toward what used to be normal common religious practices and beliefs.


It's due to the LGBT movement taught in schools and in the media.

They feel that Christians judge their life style. So the media, Hollywood, and gay activits groups (e.g. "It Gets Better") have organized campaigns to ridicule and denigrate religion.

Religions have a codified rules for society and the homosexual lifestyle does not fit. So, get rid of the rules and call those that follow religion –– 'intolerant'.


Is this a joke?
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Glad I am not the only one noticing it. There are atheists that don't try to start stuff and there are the other kinds to. Just as there are obnoxious Christians. But there has always been a war against religion buy "non-beleavers" and the government.
No worries Christianity is alive and well as with other large organized religions.


Perhaps it would surprise you to learn that many non-believers feel the opposite... that religion has been forced down our throats fro a very long time...
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Originally Posted By 1cheapshot:
This has been on going since early Communist infiltration into this country. It was largely underground for the first 50 years. Once Communist thought spread to Liberal Americans it started coming out in the late 50's and the 60's. The initial push of getting religion out came with the removal of prayer from schools, in my opinion. I also believe Roe v Wade has had an effect for Athiesim in America. It's a slow and steady pace of Marxist thought in this country.


So Maxism=atheism? Ummm... no.
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Originally Posted By TWIRE:
Actually, the 'rise of atheism,' itself a quasi-religious movement, is simply a fad. All the cool kids are doing it. Just like tatoos and running marathons. Unfortunately, the damages of anti-theism are much longer lasting.


The beliefs I have regarding what happens when you die, where people came from, morals, how I will raise my son and all that other jazz is as important to me as an atheist as it is to you. I assure you, it's not a fad........


On another note, some of the comments and misconceptions about atheist in this thread just show me what theism is all about.....I've been here long enough, unfortunately I already know what to expect from "Christians"


I said the 'rise of atheism,' not 'atheism,' was a fad. Subtle but important difference which apparently escaped you. But don't let that get in the way of denigrating Christianity.
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Originally Posted By TWIRE:
Actually, the 'rise of atheism,' itself a quasi-religious movement, is simply a fad. All the cool kids are doing it. Just like tatoos and running marathons. Unfortunately, the damages of anti-theism are much longer lasting.


The beliefs I have regarding what happens when you die, where people came from, morals, how I will raise my son and all that other jazz is as important to me as an atheist as it is to you. I assure you, it's not a fad........


On another note, some of the comments and misconceptions about atheist in this thread just show me what theism is all about.....I've been here long enough, unfortunately I already know what to expect from "Christians"


I said the 'rise of atheism,' not 'atheism,' was a fad. Subtle but important difference which apparently escaped you. But don't let that get in the way of denigrating Christianity.


Yeah, also not a fad. In fact, if we're going to play the definition game, Christianity would fit right in as a fad as it was very popular at one time, but it's numbers are now dropping.
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Originally Posted By TWIRE:
Actually, the 'rise of atheism,' itself a quasi-religious movement, is simply a fad. All the cool kids are doing it. Just like tatoos and running marathons. Unfortunately, the damages of anti-theism are much longer lasting.


The beliefs I have regarding what happens when you die, where people came from, morals, how I will raise my son and all that other jazz is as important to me as an atheist as it is to you. I assure you, it's not a fad........


On another note, some of the comments and misconceptions about atheist in this thread just show me what theism is all about.....I've been here long enough, unfortunately I already know what to expect from "Christians"


I said the 'rise of atheism,' not 'atheism,' was a fad. Subtle but important difference which apparently escaped you. But don't let that get in the way of denigrating Christianity.


Yeah, also not a fad. In fact, if we're going to play the definition game, Christianity would fit right in as a fad as it was very popular at one time, but it's numbers are now dropping.


Fads usually lose their luster after a few decades, so at the 2000 year mark, I think classifying Christianity as a fad is a stretch.

As for losing numbers, that is also debatable.




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Actually, the 'rise of atheism,' itself a quasi-religious movement, is simply a fad. All the cool kids are doing it. Just like tatoos and running marathons. Unfortunately, the damages of anti-theism are much longer lasting.


The beliefs I have regarding what happens when you die, where people came from, morals, how I will raise my son and all that other jazz is as important to me as an atheist as it is to you. I assure you, it's not a fad........


On another note, some of the comments and misconceptions about atheist in this thread just show me what theism is all about.....I've been here long enough, unfortunately I already know what to expect from "Christians"


I said the 'rise of atheism,' not 'atheism,' was a fad. Subtle but important difference which apparently escaped you. But don't let that get in the way of denigrating Christianity.


Yeah, also not a fad. In fact, if we're going to play the definition game, Christianity would fit right in as a fad as it was very popular at one time, but it's numbers are now dropping.


Fads usually lose their luster after a few decades, so at the 2000 year mark, I think classifying Christianity as a fad is a stretch.

As for losing numbers, that is also debatable.


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As modern humans have been on this earth for 50,000 years or so (anatomically much longer than that), that 2,000 years is only 4% of the total time humans have practiced some kind of religion, and the numbers are already starting to fall. So yes, I think the definition of a fad would apply to Christianity.
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I pity your zealotry.

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I pity your zealotry.

(Yeah, I know. You don't need pity. You don't need anything.)


So far atheist have been called zealots and retards in this thread......If that doesn't paint a nice enough picture of the true feelings behind Christians than I don't know what does.
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