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Posted: 10/9/2015 8:49:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Any of y'all following this thread? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1795804_Do_people_still_take_their_cars_in_for_a_Tune_Up_.html&page=1 The post about the Prius was fantastic. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 10:07:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03: The post about the Prius was fantastic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03: Originally Posted By m35ben: Any of y'all following this thread? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1795804_Do_people_still_take_their_cars_in_for_a_Tune_Up_.html&page=1 The post about the Prius was fantastic. |
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Posted: 10/10/2015 10:09:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450:
What all brands does your company supply to? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450:
Originally Posted By not_sure:
Originally Posted By jeep450:
Originally Posted By not_sure:
Originally Posted By flynlr:
so charging 3x the retail price of a part is normal for a repair shop? I was not aware of that , I do almost all my work myself. again. my only issue was the markup on the part I discovered after the work. They do warranty the work and I did not name the place because I agreed to everything they did. considering the diagnoses was done 30 minutes after I dropped off the car and the car was ready an hour later I thought it was more than fair for the 200 bucks I spent on labor. just the part markup rubbed me the wrong way when I discovered it after the fact. I will have to keep in mind this markup when getting future work done that involves parts. ' thanks for the advice. ...or a 70% markup, which is less than the parts store. I know what we sell our part for to them and about what the retail for. You work for a parts manufacture? Yes and my previous employer was also a parts manufacturer. What all brands does your company supply to? The previous one did automatic transmission filters and had most of the US and European OEM market. (SPX Filtran at the time but SPX has since sold them) The current one sells to all the US and European car OEM's, I don't know about Japan as they tend to greatly prefer Japanese brands. I suspect we sell something to most if not all of them just not near the volume of our Japanese competitors. In the aftermarket the actual parts will have our name on them. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:16:55 AM EDT
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Does anyone else find it amusing when they see a car dead in the middle of the road and someone is trying to jump it?
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:00:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03:
Does anyone else find it amusing when they see a car dead in the middle of the road and someone is trying to jump it? having been there and done that (battery was on its way out and I was trying to get friends car home at 0230) its not fun Now, its amusing as hell 
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:16:57 AM EDT
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Just about lost my mind this morning. My new hire came in and first things out of her mouth "I lost my licence this weekend, oh and I need to take a day to get my kid to the doctor."
Wait what? Go back to that first part. What she meant was she had literally lost it, as in it fell out of her pocket. I had jumped to Mr. Policeman taking it from her.  |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 7:25:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03:
Does anyone else find it amusing when they see a car dead in the middle of the road and someone is trying to jump it? They must think the magic got out, and they need a bit of magic from another car to get it going, using the cars life force. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 4:57:41 PM EDT
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Lets talk scan tools and scopes.
I am getting rid of my Verus Pro and going to get a dedicated scope and a scan tool instead. Quite honestly I just didn't trust the Verus, mostly because I don't trust snap on. I would usually double check the readings with a second tool when using it. What are you guys using for a scope or a scan tool? |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 7:25:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03: Lets talk scan tools and scopes. I am getting rid of my Verus Pro and going to get a dedicated scope and a scan tool instead. Quite honestly I just didn't trust the Verus, mostly because I don't trust snap on. I would usually double check the readings with a second tool when using it. What are you guys using for a scope or a scan tool?   |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 7:28:32 PM EDT
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I'll send you my autel ms905 demo tool if you want to test drive it. I just downloaded the new updates for it.
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Posted: 10/13/2015 7:29:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben:
Originally Posted By tmleadr03:
Lets talk scan tools and scopes. I am getting rid of my Verus Pro and going to get a dedicated scope and a scan tool instead. Quite honestly I just didn't trust the Verus, mostly because I don't trust snap on. I would usually double check the readings with a second tool when using it. What are you guys using for a scope or a scan tool? http://i.imgur.com/gbBAEkU.jpg?1 
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Posted: 10/13/2015 7:57:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By tmleadr03: Lets talk scan tools and scopes. I am getting rid of my Verus Pro and going to get a dedicated scope and a scan tool instead. Quite honestly I just didn't trust the Verus, mostly because I don't trust snap on. I would usually double check the readings with a second tool when using it. What are you guys using for a scope or a scan tool? http://i.imgur.com/gbBAEkU.jpg?1 Hell I have used a Bear with a 5 gas. That image always made me think the bear was taking a dump. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 8:16:33 PM EDT
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Do you have any need to perform passthrough programming? Do you have that covered already?
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Posted: 10/13/2015 8:25:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450: Do you have any need to perform passthrough programming? Do you have that covered already? The only one I do that on now is BMW. And I have the covered with an Autologic. The rest I do not see enough to invest in it yet. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 8:55:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03:
The only one I do that on now is BMW. And I have the covered with an Autologic. The rest I do not see enough to invest in it yet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03:
Originally Posted By jeep450:
Do you have any need to perform passthrough programming? Do you have that covered already? The only one I do that on now is BMW. And I have the covered with an Autologic. The rest I do not see enough to invest in it yet. I thought you had a autologic. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 8:55:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450:
Originally Posted By m35ben:
Originally Posted By tmleadr03:
Lets talk scan tools and scopes. I am getting rid of my Verus Pro and going to get a dedicated scope and a scan tool instead. Quite honestly I just didn't trust the Verus, mostly because I don't trust snap on. I would usually double check the readings with a second tool when using it. What are you guys using for a scope or a scan tool? http://i.imgur.com/gbBAEkU.jpg?1
Toiyabe needs to post of picture of the shop "multimeter" from where he worked while he was in college. 
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Posted: 10/14/2015 10:47:18 AM EDT
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VW NB are the devil. Young lady has one and had it towed to my shop. It has been sitting for about 6 months judging by the cobwebs. Vacuum leaks like crazy, wouldn't start. Intercooler, intake hose, dipstick tube, all the small lines. Expensive repair just to get it to start. Well, she left it sitting on empty. For 6 months. Nothing but varnish left in the fuel system. It would start, run, die, start run and die. So I filled it up with 5 gallons fresh fuel. Now it idles and can kinda run. Fuel pressure too low. Sigh. Checked on the feed side of the filter. Fuel pressure too low. Fuel pump dead, filter clogged. This is why I hired someone for the front office (who no longer works here sadly) so I wouldn't have to make these damn calls. "You know that bill you were looking at that almost made you cry on the phone with me? Um... I have to add 6 hundred to that..."
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:00:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03: VW NB are the devil. Young lady has one and had it towed to my shop. It has been sitting for about 6 months judging by the cobwebs. Vacuum leaks like crazy, wouldn't start. Intercooler, intake hose, dipstick tube, all the small lines. Expensive repair just to get it to start. Well, she left it sitting on empty. For 6 months. Nothing but varnish left in the fuel system. It would start, run, die, start run and die. So I filled it up with 5 gallons fresh fuel. Now it idles and can kinda run. Fuel pressure too low. Sigh. Checked on the feed side of the filter. Fuel pressure too low. Fuel pump dead, filter clogged. This is why I hired someone for the front office (who no longer works here sadly) so I wouldn't have to make these damn calls. "You know that bill you were looking at that almost made you cry on the phone with me? Um... I have to add 6 hundred to that..." |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:52:43 PM EDT
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Did a side job at work for a salesman. Abc pump on his 2005 sl 500. It's the kind of job that tears your soul out. It just suuuuuuucked. He is leaving tonight for Kentucky and had a Reman unit overnighted yesterday. I got it done.
It's probably something like working on a Nissan.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2015 6:59:15 PM EDT
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Double tap
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TN, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2015 7:00:32 PM EDT
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Pneumatics to run the door locks, how cute. Nice built in failure I mean feature you have.
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Posted: 10/15/2015 7:24:24 PM EDT
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Not really a problem area surprisingly enough.
We don't use them anymore though. Been a few years now. Everything is electric.
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Posted: 10/15/2015 8:17:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03:
Lets talk scan tools and scopes. I am getting rid of my Verus Pro and going to get a dedicated scope and a scan tool instead. Quite honestly I just didn't trust the Verus, mostly because I don't trust snap on. I would usually double check the readings with a second tool when using it. What are you guys using for a scope or a scan tool? currently use a Vantage for my labscope, its been good so far. My scanner I have both a VCDS and a VAS 6150C. but thats all vw specialist shit. truthfully, other then programming the VCDS is the better of the two. doesn't really help you, but I'd also look into Picoscope, I understand its a really good scope. as far as fuel pumps, I test them with my amp clamp and labscope. the wave form is a great way to detect issues with them. the FSI cars you can read MVB 106, if the pump is over 65% at full throttle its replacement time, they start to throw faults about then. oddly enough if the duty cycle is very low and the car has low side fuel pressure faults check the voltage out of the fuel pump control module, they start to fail and send out like 2v, and show like 18% duty. no idea why. you need to use a labscope on them, the FPCM operates at like 20k Hz. |
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Posted: 10/15/2015 9:00:26 PM EDT
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Otc solarity. Four channel. Has worked well for what little it gets used.
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Posted: 10/16/2015 9:03:28 AM EDT
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GM dealers got shipped the pico scope. I hear good things about it.
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Posted: 10/16/2015 9:07:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450: GM dealers got shipped the pico scope. I hear good things about it. The Autel has a scope that plugs into it, how is it? |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 9:15:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AgeOne: currently use a Vantage for my labscope, its been good so far. My scanner I have both a VCDS and a VAS 6150C. but thats all vw specialist shit. truthfully, other then programming the VCDS is the better of the two. doesn't really help you, but I'd also look into Picoscope, I understand its a really good scope. as far as fuel pumps, I test them with my amp clamp and labscope. the wave form is a great way to detect issues with them. the FSI cars you can read MVB 106, if the pump is over 65% at full throttle its replacement time, they start to throw faults about then. oddly enough if the duty cycle is very low and the car has low side fuel pressure faults check the voltage out of the fuel pump control module, they start to fail and send out like 2v, and show like 18% duty. no idea why. you need to use a labscope on them, the FPCM operates at like 20k Hz. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AgeOne: Originally Posted By tmleadr03: Lets talk scan tools and scopes. I am getting rid of my Verus Pro and going to get a dedicated scope and a scan tool instead. Quite honestly I just didn't trust the Verus, mostly because I don't trust snap on. I would usually double check the readings with a second tool when using it. What are you guys using for a scope or a scan tool? currently use a Vantage for my labscope, its been good so far. My scanner I have both a VCDS and a VAS 6150C. but thats all vw specialist shit. truthfully, other then programming the VCDS is the better of the two. doesn't really help you, but I'd also look into Picoscope, I understand its a really good scope. as far as fuel pumps, I test them with my amp clamp and labscope. the wave form is a great way to detect issues with them. the FSI cars you can read MVB 106, if the pump is over 65% at full throttle its replacement time, they start to throw faults about then. oddly enough if the duty cycle is very low and the car has low side fuel pressure faults check the voltage out of the fuel pump control module, they start to fail and send out like 2v, and show like 18% duty. no idea why. you need to use a labscope on them, the FPCM operates at like 20k Hz. One of the things I like doing is using a pressure transducer to watch the high pressure fuel pump wave forms. See that right there? The part where the wave doesn't go as high? Cam lobe is done. So sorry. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 9:37:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03:
The Autel has a scope that plugs into it, how is it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03:
Originally Posted By jeep450:
GM dealers got shipped the pico scope. I hear good things about it. The Autel has a scope that plugs into it, how is it? Here's the info on it Here the brand new autel, 2 year warranty, 2 years of updates included which is done right on the tool when hooked on wifi. The VCI unit is a passthrough device also meaning you can program vehicles with purchase of access from the manufactures (there are a couple that give it out free) |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:31:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03:
One of the things I like doing is using a pressure transducer to watch the high pressure fuel pump wave forms. See that right there? The part where the wave doesn't go as high? Cam lobe is done. So sorry. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03:
Originally Posted By AgeOne:
Originally Posted By tmleadr03:
Lets talk scan tools and scopes. I am getting rid of my Verus Pro and going to get a dedicated scope and a scan tool instead. Quite honestly I just didn't trust the Verus, mostly because I don't trust snap on. I would usually double check the readings with a second tool when using it. What are you guys using for a scope or a scan tool? currently use a Vantage for my labscope, its been good so far. My scanner I have both a VCDS and a VAS 6150C. but thats all vw specialist shit. truthfully, other then programming the VCDS is the better of the two. doesn't really help you, but I'd also look into Picoscope, I understand its a really good scope. as far as fuel pumps, I test them with my amp clamp and labscope. the wave form is a great way to detect issues with them. the FSI cars you can read MVB 106, if the pump is over 65% at full throttle its replacement time, they start to throw faults about then. oddly enough if the duty cycle is very low and the car has low side fuel pressure faults check the voltage out of the fuel pump control module, they start to fail and send out like 2v, and show like 18% duty. no idea why. you need to use a labscope on them, the FPCM operates at like 20k Hz. One of the things I like doing is using a pressure transducer to watch the high pressure fuel pump wave forms. See that right there? The part where the wave doesn't go as high? Cam lobe is done. So sorry. you can backprobe the factory sensor for the same data. oh, and when the cam wears out, even if its just one lobe, replace the HPFP, it isn't a cam or oil quality issue, the HPFP leaks and sprays gas directly on the cam so lubrication goes away during peak load/ pressure events. the usually get replaced because the follower wears threw and damages them, but some times it doesn't go that far and happens again, turns out its the HP fuel pump. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 2:56:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AgeOne: you can backprobe the factory sensor for the same data. oh, and when the cam wears out, even if its just one lobe, replace the HPFP, it isn't a cam or oil quality issue, the HPFP leaks and sprays gas directly on the cam so lubrication goes away during peak load/ pressure events. the usually get replaced because the follower wears threw and damages them, but some times it doesn't go that far and happens again, turns out its the HP fuel pump. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AgeOne: Originally Posted By tmleadr03: Originally Posted By AgeOne: Originally Posted By tmleadr03: Lets talk scan tools and scopes. I am getting rid of my Verus Pro and going to get a dedicated scope and a scan tool instead. Quite honestly I just didn't trust the Verus, mostly because I don't trust snap on. I would usually double check the readings with a second tool when using it. What are you guys using for a scope or a scan tool? currently use a Vantage for my labscope, its been good so far. My scanner I have both a VCDS and a VAS 6150C. but thats all vw specialist shit. truthfully, other then programming the VCDS is the better of the two. doesn't really help you, but I'd also look into Picoscope, I understand its a really good scope. as far as fuel pumps, I test them with my amp clamp and labscope. the wave form is a great way to detect issues with them. the FSI cars you can read MVB 106, if the pump is over 65% at full throttle its replacement time, they start to throw faults about then. oddly enough if the duty cycle is very low and the car has low side fuel pressure faults check the voltage out of the fuel pump control module, they start to fail and send out like 2v, and show like 18% duty. no idea why. you need to use a labscope on them, the FPCM operates at like 20k Hz. One of the things I like doing is using a pressure transducer to watch the high pressure fuel pump wave forms. See that right there? The part where the wave doesn't go as high? Cam lobe is done. So sorry. you can backprobe the factory sensor for the same data. oh, and when the cam wears out, even if its just one lobe, replace the HPFP, it isn't a cam or oil quality issue, the HPFP leaks and sprays gas directly on the cam so lubrication goes away during peak load/ pressure events. the usually get replaced because the follower wears threw and damages them, but some times it doesn't go that far and happens again, turns out its the HP fuel pump. It is the visual I like to give more then anything else. Helps with sales to point at a pretty picture and say "See? Your car is bad and you should feel bad for driving it." |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 8:13:23 PM EDT
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Plus it looks fancy so you can charge more for it
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Posted: 10/16/2015 8:35:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450: Plus it looks fancy so you can charge more for it I love when a customer walks in while I am scoping a car. Wires everywhere, pc screen reading out some fucking gibberish, me looking very serious at the screen while manipulating something under the hood. Looks all sciencey and shit. Justifies the prices. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:38:02 PM EDT
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To service the transmission of a cla45 amg, you must remove the front bumper. The entire 30k service pays 2.3. I had 3.8 just doing the transmission. It only pays .8 to r&r trans pan. Pays 1.4 to r&r bumper. The Times are not correct.....
Had to have a discussion about that with svc manager. Installed bixenon headlights on my c5. It was not exactly simple. Ran into some wiring polarity issues and such. They work great though. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 3:26:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03:
I love when a customer walks in while I am scoping a car. Wires everywhere, pc screen reading out some fucking gibberish, me looking very serious at the screen while manipulating something under the hood. Looks all sciencey and shit. Justifies the prices. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03:
Originally Posted By jeep450:
Plus it looks fancy so you can charge more for it I love when a customer walks in while I am scoping a car. Wires everywhere, pc screen reading out some fucking gibberish, me looking very serious at the screen while manipulating something under the hood. Looks all sciencey and shit. Justifies the prices. Cheap Honest Competent Pick two
For bonus point pick the two that won't leave your ass sore. |
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Posted: 10/20/2015 11:17:50 AM EDT
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Do you guys buy tools online? If so, how much?
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Posted: 10/20/2015 12:09:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450: Do you guys buy tools online? If so, how much? I get some stuff like OTC from Amazon. I ordered the Hub Grappler kit and had it overnighted. Cost me 5 bucks extra on shipping. I laughed. I specifically told my SnapOn guy before he got kicked out of my shop that if he could order that stuff and get it to me I would be happy to pay a little extra for the one stop shopping convenience. Most of the time I order through a tool truck, because while some stuff I can get at less cost to me online, I want the tool guy customer service. I will say I told my apprentice that when she starts buying tools she should do so at the pawn shops or online on CL or Ebay. Then if there is an issue it is under warranty most times or a low cost repair if it isn't warranty. Good way to start a tool collection with out spending stupid amounts of money when you can not afford it. |
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Posted: 10/20/2015 4:41:38 PM EDT
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I buy almost exclusively online. Tooltopia.com, eBay or whoever has what I need. I'll buy from a store or tool guy if I need it rfn.
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Posted: 10/20/2015 5:08:28 PM EDT
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Friends, Romans, I think I am at a great fork in my life debating career choices. 2 year auto degree 5 years as dealer tech im 26 now i believe i am very knowledgeable probably more than most guys i have worked with.( we have gone through a few guys at this shop) Not nearly as experienced as these guys but i feel i understand better how systems work and that i can figure out a problem with logic where as they figure out problem with experience.
Real question is im burnt out with this shop 8 bays 8 techs struggling to make hours. Should i find a new shop if so dealer or independent. There is two bay shop on road front here on farm should i put lift in there and start my own business? Should I try to go into different career, Electrician, Elevator technician? Something else? Help i feel like im spinning my wheels and my whole life is passing me by. |
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Posted: 10/20/2015 6:10:12 PM EDT
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Spent the day watching the guy next to me do six services and a CPO and knock out thirty hours.
I turned seven. Someone else's comeback for a check engine light. A light bulb that had to be special ordered. Removed a radar detector that involved disassembling most of the car. Got another someone else's comeback. Car left Friday, came in today on the hook again, belt came off. Oil everywhere. Okay, oil made belt come off. Where is oil coming from..... was that ME? Did I leave that massive trail of oil while driving in? Yes. Yes I did. Right cam gear bolt backed out, broke through cylinder head cover, somehow gear is still on cam. Oil flooding out everywhere. Car is a pile of shit anyway. I quoted 20 hours to tear down and inspect. I don't feel like fucking with it anyway. Its not worth fixing. Suspension is shot, so we are probably looking at a potential 20 grand of repairs needed. |
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Posted: 10/20/2015 7:13:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SINGLE_SHOT:
Friends, Romans, I think I am at a great fork in my life debating career choices. 2 year auto degree 5 years as dealer tech im 26 now i believe i am very knowledgeable probably more than most guys i have worked with.( we have gone through a few guys at this shop) Not nearly as experienced as these guys but i feel i understand better how systems work and that i can figure out a problem with logic where as they figure out problem with experience. Real question is im burnt out with this shop 8 bays 8 techs struggling to make hours. Should i find a new shop if so dealer or independent. There is two bay shop on road front here on farm should i put lift in there and start my own business? Should I try to go into different career, Electrician, Elevator technician? Something else? Help i feel like im spinning my wheels and my whole life is passing me by. Is it the actual wrenching or is it the flat rate pay system that's dragging you down? If it's the pay system I would try to find a hourly shop, may have to go fleet if there is any where you live. I actually like wrenching and have been at it for 20 years, always hourly. If it's the wrenching that's has you down then a career change would be the answer. |
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Posted: 10/20/2015 8:42:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SINGLE_SHOT:
Friends, Romans, I think I am at a great fork in my life debating career choices. 2 year auto degree 5 years as dealer tech im 26 now i believe i am very knowledgeable probably more than most guys i have worked with.( we have gone through a few guys at this shop) Not nearly as experienced as these guys but i feel i understand better how systems work and that i can figure out a problem with logic where as they figure out problem with experience. Real question is im burnt out with this shop 8 bays 8 techs struggling to make hours. Should i find a new shop if so dealer or independent. There is two bay shop on road front here on farm should i put lift in there and start my own business? Should I try to go into different career, Electrician, Elevator technician? Something else? Help i feel like im spinning my wheels and my whole life is passing me by. I know of a tech line at a certain middle TN auto manufacturer is hiring. Job is posted on indeed. |
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Posted: 10/20/2015 8:45:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slows2k:
I know of a tech line at a certain middle TN auto manufacturer is hiring. Job is posted on indeed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slows2k:
Originally Posted By SINGLE_SHOT:
Friends, Romans, I think I am at a great fork in my life debating career choices. 2 year auto degree 5 years as dealer tech im 26 now i believe i am very knowledgeable probably more than most guys i have worked with.( we have gone through a few guys at this shop) Not nearly as experienced as these guys but i feel i understand better how systems work and that i can figure out a problem with logic where as they figure out problem with experience. Real question is im burnt out with this shop 8 bays 8 techs struggling to make hours. Should i find a new shop if so dealer or independent. There is two bay shop on road front here on farm should i put lift in there and start my own business? Should I try to go into different career, Electrician, Elevator technician? Something else? Help i feel like im spinning my wheels and my whole life is passing me by. I know of a tech line at a certain middle TN auto manufacturer is hiring. Job is posted on indeed. How are y'all getting away with advertising it when techs call in? |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 10/20/2015 9:02:13 PM EDT
[#43]
Our phone message states a fact, not an advertisement.
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Posted: 10/20/2015 9:26:52 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SINGLE_SHOT:
Friends, Romans, I think I am at a great fork in my life debating career choices. 2 year auto degree 5 years as dealer tech im 26 now i believe i am very knowledgeable probably more than most guys i have worked with.( we have gone through a few guys at this shop) Not nearly as experienced as these guys but i feel i understand better how systems work and that i can figure out a problem with logic where as they figure out problem with experience. Real question is im burnt out with this shop 8 bays 8 techs struggling to make hours. Should i find a new shop if so dealer or independent. There is two bay shop on road front here on farm should i put lift in there and start my own business? Should I try to go into different career, Electrician, Elevator technician? Something else? Help i feel like im spinning my wheels and my whole life is passing me by. That may have been a joke but those guys are pretty well paid. Air traffic controllers are paid even better if you can do the job. |
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Posted: 10/20/2015 10:25:46 PM EDT
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The pay is dragging me down most along with the usual other shit this car needs done yesterday etc....
I took aptitude test to get into elevator union im on the list for helper and im waiting....going on a year. |
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Posted: 10/20/2015 10:41:25 PM EDT
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My best friend works in the elevator trades, makes good money, but he is by default union trash.
He acts like he hates it though because of the union bs, and working with idiots. Only in it for the paycheck. |
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Posted: 10/21/2015 6:46:38 PM EDT
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Clients would like an estimate to replace an extremely troublesome and problem prone engine that is complex and difficult to work on with the same thing, except from a junkyard. What could possibly go wrong? How pissed off will someone get after paying 41 hours of labor for..... more problems?
Why would you want to repair a car for tens of thousands when it isn't worth even half that? Of course excepting collector pieces, rarities, you know stuff worth saving. |
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Posted: 10/21/2015 10:31:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saturnstyl:
Clients would like an estimate to replace an extremely troublesome and problem prone engine that is complex and difficult to work on with the same thing, except from a junkyard. What could possibly go wrong? How pissed off will someone get after paying 41 hours of labor for..... more problems? Why would you want to repair a car for tens of thousands when it isn't worth even half that? Of course excepting collector pieces, rarities, you know stuff worth saving. Sometimes its best to not. Tell them its new car time. Or from the sounds of it new to them car time. |
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Posted: 10/22/2015 3:59:19 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SINGLE_SHOT:
Friends, Romans, I think I am at a great fork in my life debating career choices. 2 year auto degree 5 years as dealer tech im 26 now i believe i am very knowledgeable probably more than most guys i have worked with.( we have gone through a few guys at this shop) Not nearly as experienced as these guys but i feel i understand better how systems work and that i can figure out a problem with logic where as they figure out problem with experience. Real question is im burnt out with this shop 8 bays 8 techs struggling to make hours. Should i find a new shop if so dealer or independent. There is two bay shop on road front here on farm should i put lift in there and start my own business? Should I try to go into different career, Electrician, Elevator technician? Something else? Help i feel like im spinning my wheels and my whole life is passing me by. you will make more money in your own shop, but your life will pass you by even faster.. trust me on this. I doubled what I made at the dealer, but for most of the time I've done 12hr days, sometimes 7 days a week till I was stable enough to hire people. the last 10 years have gone by so fast, I honestly can't distinguish most of them from eachother. |
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Posted: 10/22/2015 5:12:35 PM EDT
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Week of state fair translates to the week of doing virtually nothing.
As I relate the following tale, let it remind you that virtually no one understands this business. Customer brings car with tire going flat. I look at tire, cannot be patched, provide estimate for replacement. .9 later, advisor has yet to present quote. At 1.3 hours client has called husband who simply wants spare installed. Trunk full of groceries. We have correct tire in stock. No, they will come back with a used tire they saved off a 2010 s550. Install mini spare. Full size tire doesn't come close to fitting. I shuffled grocery bags and stuff it in enough to close the trunk. Tell advisor he can choke on a bag of used dildoes he found after a gay pride March left the convention center. I have spent an hour and a half. For nothing. Meanwhile a three hour service got through that should have been mine. |
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