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Posted: 9/21/2016 4:51:53 PM EDT
So if you could measure whatever front steer steering your car has, that'd be great.
 If you do can you please include year, manufacturer, model (trim level too), and total travel? |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 4:55:21 PM EDT
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whats it for?
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Posted: 9/21/2016 5:00:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2016 5:38:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryPS this is for a 3rd gen Camaro. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 6:24:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no way I can justify that price if there are OEM racks that will work. So I ask again for people to measure the travel distance of their racks if they are front steer. PS this is for a 3rd gen Camaro. Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no way I can justify that price if there are OEM racks that will work. So I ask again for people to measure the travel distance of their racks if they are front steer. PS this is for a 3rd gen Camaro. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 7:42:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: why cant you buy the one for the camaro? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There is no way I can justify that price if there are OEM racks that will work. So I ask again for people to measure the travel distance of their racks if they are front steer. PS this is for a 3rd gen Camaro. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 8:23:09 PM EDT
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There is a little more than a simple lock to lock travel measurement that is necessary to ensur eyou get the right rack and pinion for your application.
Things like gear ratio, steering knuckle arm length and distance between inner tie rod ends and the relationship of that distance to your control arms pivot point distance and mounting style, assuming you are fabbing the mount. You may need to take into consideration the mounting height possible with a candidate rack if you're interested in eliminating bump steer. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 8:29:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2016 9:28:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: There is a little more than a simple lock to lock travel measurement that is necessary to ensur eyou get the right rack and pinion for your application. Things like gear ratio, steering knuckle arm length and distance between inner tie rod ends and the relationship of that distance to your control arms pivot point distance and mounting style, assuming you are fabbing the mount. You may need to take into consideration the mounting height possible with a candidate rack if you're interested in eliminating bump steer. I know all this. First, I would like to find which racks have the travel I need. Geometry can be manipulated. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 9:30:33 PM EDT
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Quoted: So if you could measure whatever front steer steering your car has, that'd be great. If you do can you please include year, manufacturer, model (trim level too), and total travel? |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 9:35:38 PM EDT
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I tried to help. Got shit on. So I'm gonna go measure my car. Check back hourly for eternity.
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Posted: 9/21/2016 9:48:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I tried to help. Got shit on. So I'm gonna go measure my car. Check back hourly for eternity. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 10:36:13 PM EDT
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I did some reading on it and it seems like the consensus is a 97 t bird rack has the correct throw. I don't know the measurement but it is supposed to match the factory throw.
So why the swap to rack and pinion? |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 11:32:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did some reading on it and it seems like the consensus is a 97 t bird rack has the correct throw. I don't know the measurement but it is supposed to match the factory throw. So why the swap to rack and pinion? |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 8:03:29 PM EDT
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bump
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Posted: 9/23/2016 6:07:33 PM EDT
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bump
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Posted: 9/24/2016 6:19:51 PM EDT
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bump
Found out that the 2007 STI rack has 5.25" of travel |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 7:58:41 PM EDT
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Room for snails plus some CG improvement. I have a thread on TGO(http://www.thirdgen.org/forums/suspension-chassis/736887-all-useful-r-p.html#post6079574) and listed a bunch of possibles. A CTO (center take off) rack that is possible is the mid 90's Intrepid (6.875"). Supposedly the 90s Taurus rack is 7" and is ETO (end take off). The biggest issue I'm having though is finding travel distances. I have threads on pirate 4x4, NASIOC, IWSTI, all trying to get linear travels. RockAuto is a good source for all the other steering rack specs but travel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I did some reading on it and it seems like the consensus is a 97 t bird rack has the correct throw. I don't know the measurement but it is supposed to match the factory throw. So why the swap to rack and pinion? 2 things why not use the typical Pinto rack ? You should be able to put stops on a rack or as is usually the case the spindles limit the travel. Also a 90's Taurus rack is a part known for failure . |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 9:00:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2 things why not use the typical Pinto rack ? You should be able to put stops on a rack or as is usually the case the spindles limit the travel. Also a 90's Taurus rack is a part known for failure . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I did some reading on it and it seems like the consensus is a 97 t bird rack has the correct throw. I don't know the measurement but it is supposed to match the factory throw. So why the swap to rack and pinion? 2 things why not use the typical Pinto rack ? You should be able to put stops on a rack or as is usually the case the spindles limit the travel. Also a 90's Taurus rack is a part known for failure . |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 7:47:05 PM EDT
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bump
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Posted: 9/25/2016 7:59:20 PM EDT
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Have you checked Speedway Motors? Their tech guys are not hacks.
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Posted: 9/25/2016 11:31:47 PM EDT
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But usually it is not the box that is the travel stop . On most American cars it is built into the spindle . You could potentially use a longer travel rack with no issues
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Posted: 9/26/2016 10:42:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But usually it is not the box that is the travel stop . On most American cars it is built into the spindle . You could potentially use a longer travel rack with no issues |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 7:21:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But usually it is not the box that is the travel stop . On most American cars it is built into the spindle . You could potentially use a longer travel rack with no issues |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 7:23:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he has upgraded the brakes, it requires cutting off the stops on the spindles on a third gen f body. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But usually it is not the box that is the travel stop . On most American cars it is built into the spindle . You could potentially use a longer travel rack with no issues |
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Posted: 9/28/2016 10:54:41 AM EDT
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84-87 Buick Skylark is supposed to be 7. , one vintage of cavalier is over 6 inches
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Posted: 9/28/2016 4:58:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 84-87 Buick Skylark is supposed to be 7. , one vintage of cavalier is over 6 inches |
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Posted: 9/28/2016 7:26:04 PM EDT
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Do you happen to know if it is front steer or rear steer? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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84-87 Buick Skylark is supposed to be 7. , one vintage of cavalier is over 6 inches I have no idea . I used to work at a chevy dealer and worked in a GM fleet . I am not a big fan of GM stuff . I was just playing around in parts searches trying to solve your first question . The other problem may be the location of the input on the rack |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 12:09:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no idea . I used to work at a chevy dealer and worked in a GM fleet . I am not a big fan of GM stuff . I was just playing around in parts searches trying to solve your first question . The other problem may be the location of the input on the rack Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 84-87 Buick Skylark is supposed to be 7. , one vintage of cavalier is over 6 inches I have no idea . I used to work at a chevy dealer and worked in a GM fleet . I am not a big fan of GM stuff . I was just playing around in parts searches trying to solve your first question . The other problem may be the location of the input on the rack Input location could be an issue but can be worked around to a point. |
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