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Posted: 8/24/2016 1:17:28 AM EDT
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They still run on coal that you have to shovel in on the side? What about the power takeoff? Is it still standard? Because I need to get the old well pump working...
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Posted: 8/24/2016 3:24:29 PM EDT
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There goes Rushmore resale values!
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Posted: 8/25/2016 10:15:57 AM EDT
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Will this be a "Bubble Head" or "Wet Head".
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Posted: 8/25/2016 11:29:15 AM EDT
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Oh my god, harley has finally caught up with 1980's technology and everyone loses their mind over it. I cant believe people pay so much money for so little.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 2:19:10 PM EDT
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That's a LOT of valves..
How many CAMS does it have ?
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Posted: 8/25/2016 3:01:20 PM EDT
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That's a LOT of valves.. How many CAMS does it have ? Bet it's still just 1. Will probably have rods on both sides, and will look symetrical with both plugs per head. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 10:10:38 PM EDT
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Bet it's still just 1. Will probably have rods on both sides, and will look symetrical with both plugs per head. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a LOT of valves.. How many CAMS does it have ? Bet it's still just 1. Will probably have rods on both sides, and will look symetrical with both plugs per head. Yep. It is just one cam. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 10:14:39 PM EDT
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But will it sound like a Harley because that's important.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 11:57:37 PM EDT
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The 114 engine is water cooled and only available on the CVOs.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 1:09:33 AM EDT
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I think its a solid blend of the best features of the evo and twin cam evo.
Gerator oil pump from twin cam 4 valves per cylinder...that shit is old as dirt. However new cylinder geometry and higher compression by liquid cooling exhaust valve are of heads is pretty smart Less moving parts than twin cam Basically replace all the shitty bearings in the motor. Replace the pipe, seat,handle bars Suspension and u can have a great bike. Im never paying more for than 5k for another Harley. To much junk that needs to be upgraded. Most of it is foreign made. Suspension, ECM,BCM Ill stick w buying cheap fxrs and hammered dynas |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 3:05:02 AM EDT
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Nobody needs an assault motor with that many valves.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:10:05 AM EDT
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I think its a solid blend of the best features of the evo and twin cam evo. Gerator oil pump from twin cam 4 valves per cylinder...that shit is old as dirt. However new cylinder geometry and higher compression by liquid cooling exhaust valve are of heads is pretty smart Less moving parts than twin cam Basically replace all the shitty bearings in the motor. Replace the pipe, seat,handle bars Suspension and u can have a great bike. Im never paying more for than 5k for another Harley. To much junk that needs to be upgraded. Most of it is foreign made. Suspension, ECM,BCM Ill stick w buying cheap fxrs and hammered dynas seems like that is every bike on the market. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:52:19 PM EDT
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But will they ever find the balls to publish HP numbers?
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Posted: 8/26/2016 10:43:27 PM EDT
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But will they ever find the balls to publish HP numbers? Why wouldn't they? I saw one today, it is beautiful! |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 10:51:06 PM EDT
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Curious how the reviews go.
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Posted: 8/27/2016 11:49:22 AM EDT
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Why wouldn't they? I saw one today, it is beautiful! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But will they ever find the balls to publish HP numbers? Why wouldn't they? I saw one today, it is beautiful! Because they don't.
They put torque in the brochures, but shy away from HP because it is so low compared to the competitions v twins. |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 11:58:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they don't. They put torque in the brochures, but shy away from HP because it is so low compared to the competitions v twins. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: But will they ever find the balls to publish HP numbers? Why wouldn't they? I saw one today, it is beautiful! Because they don't. They put torque in the brochures, but shy away from HP because it is so low compared to the competitions v twins. Shits weak. |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 7:12:11 PM EDT
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Found out today that only a limited number of 2017 V-Rods will be produced. Will be discontinued after that. Wonder if the Revolution engine will be killed or find its way into the Sportster line. They would be similar to the Indian Scout.
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Posted: 8/27/2016 7:29:20 PM EDT
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But will they ever find the balls to publish HP numbers? 42 hp 
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Posted: 8/27/2016 7:36:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:A 2016 Lowrider caught my eye with the 110 Screaming Eagle engine. Good looking bike. I asked the sales guy the HP number on these and he said 96. 96 fucking horsepower from a 110 ci engine on a 600 pound machine.
Shits weak. 96 is at the crank. On an actual dyno, you're closer to 82 with the 110cid. 90 lb-ft from 2200rpm to 4500rpm or so is nice, but with the gearing on most of these, that's not a particularly wide powerband. http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2015/10/article/2016-softail-slim-s-harley-twin-cam-110-dyno-chart/ ETA : this absolutely blows the 96 into the weeds, stock-for-stock. Those still weren't doing much over 70HP on dynos, in most cases... |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 1:07:40 PM EDT
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Found out today that only a limited number of 2017 V-Rods will be produced. Will be discontinued after that. Wonder if the Revolution engine will be killed or find its way into the Sportster line. They would be similar to the Indian Scout. It was basically rejected by the HD market. Sometimes I think HD would like to do something different, but just can't because their clientele will just reject it. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 8:51:35 PM EDT
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I was in a HD dealer recently getting a couple parts to fix someone else's bike. A 2016 Lowrider caught my eye with the 110 Screaming Eagle engine. Good looking bike. I asked the sales guy the HP number on these and he said 96. 96 fucking horsepower from a 110 ci engine on a 600 pound machine. Shits weak. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But will they ever find the balls to publish HP numbers? Why wouldn't they? I saw one today, it is beautiful! Because they don't.
They put torque in the brochures, but shy away from HP because it is so low compared to the competitions v twins. Shits weak. That's like going shopping for a pickup truck and buying based on which one gets the best fuel economy. If you're buying a Harley (or any cruiser) based on peak horsepower, you are VERY confused. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 10:01:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's like going shopping for a pickup truck and buying based on which one gets the best fuel economy. If you're buying a Harley (or any cruiser) based on peak horsepower, you are VERY confused. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: But will they ever find the balls to publish HP numbers? Why wouldn't they? I saw one today, it is beautiful! Because they don't. They put torque in the brochures, but shy away from HP because it is so low compared to the competitions v twins. Shits weak. That's like going shopping for a pickup truck and buying based on which one gets the best fuel economy. If you're buying a Harley (or any cruiser) based on peak horsepower, you are VERY confused. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 10:07:10 PM EDT
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So why do people mod their Harley's? Same reason people mod almost any other vehicle out there. To make the vehicle the way they want it. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 10:09:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same reason people mod almost any other vehicle out there. To make the vehicle the way they want it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So why do people mod their Harley's? Same reason people mod almost any other vehicle out there. To make the vehicle the way they want it. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 10:12:50 PM EDT
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The common complaint is they are down on power. And they are. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So why do people mod their Harley's? Same reason people mod almost any other vehicle out there. To make the vehicle the way they want it. Then buy a crotch rocket. Problem solved. Not everyone wants a crotch rocket though. Neither one of my Harleys needs anymore HP. Link |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 10:22:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then buy a crotch rocket. Problem solved. Not everyone wants a crotch rocket though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So why do people mod their Harley's? Same reason people mod almost any other vehicle out there. To make the vehicle the way they want it. Then buy a crotch rocket. Problem solved. Not everyone wants a crotch rocket though. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 10:28:58 PM EDT
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Already have a crotch rocket actually. Recently I rode a 150 hp adventure bike. It was such an amazing motorcycle to ride. The usable power it had was very impressive. I've ridden HD's plenty. They're good at turning gasoline into noise without making power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So why do people mod their Harley's? Same reason people mod almost any other vehicle out there. To make the vehicle the way they want it. Then buy a crotch rocket. Problem solved. Not everyone wants a crotch rocket though. They're also targeting a different audience as well. Different strokes different folks. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 10:35:00 PM EDT
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That's why I gave my opinion of the $18k 2016 bike I saw.
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