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Posted: 10/15/2014 2:31:50 PM EDT
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I like it. If I had to do some kind of dual sport/tourer/sportbike combo. That would be it.
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Posted: 10/15/2014 2:41:33 PM EDT
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The exhaust sure leaves a lot to be desired. That's a mighty small hole to let out 1,000 CCs of flow. When are they going to figure out that people hate those butt-ugly rear fenders?
I reckon I'll be stickin to my ZRX, and RM250 2-stroke. |
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Posted: 10/15/2014 2:45:13 PM EDT
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I like it. This new trend towards bikes that are actually useful rather than extreme dirt or extreme speed, etc.....is nice.
In other words, it's nice to see competition for the V-stroms, finally. |
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Posted: 10/15/2014 4:47:58 PM EDT
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The exhaust sure leaves a lot to be desired. That's a mighty small hole to let out 1,000 CCs of flow. When are they going to figure out that people hate those butt-ugly rear fenders? Thank the DOT for the rear fender. And it won't be a powerhouse, so that exhaust should do fine for the average owner of that bike who doesn't subscribe to the "loud pipes save lives" mantra. |
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Posted: 10/15/2014 5:55:28 PM EDT
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Thank the DOT for the rear fender. And it won't be a powerhouse, so that exhaust should do fine for the average owner of that bike who doesn't subscribe to the "loud pipes save lives" mantra. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The exhaust sure leaves a lot to be desired. That's a mighty small hole to let out 1,000 CCs of flow. When are they going to figure out that people hate those butt-ugly rear fenders? Thank the DOT for the rear fender. And it won't be a powerhouse, so that exhaust should do fine for the average owner of that bike who doesn't subscribe to the "loud pipes save lives" mantra. I don't subscribe to the "loud pipes saves lives" mantra, but I do know that aftermarket exhausts are the single most performance gain to be had. |
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Posted: 10/15/2014 9:21:51 PM EDT
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When are they going to figure out that people hate those butt-ugly rear fenders? Because it's too hard to bolt on a fender elimination kit.  
I have been installing fender elimination kits on my street bikes since I bought my new 1983 GpZ1100. |
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Posted: 10/15/2014 9:51:04 PM EDT
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Probably going to be a great bike.
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Posted: 10/16/2014 9:24:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank the DOT for the rear fender. And it won't be a powerhouse, so that exhaust should do fine for the average owner of that bike who doesn't subscribe to the "loud pipes save lives" mantra. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The exhaust sure leaves a lot to be desired. That's a mighty small hole to let out 1,000 CCs of flow. When are they going to figure out that people hate those butt-ugly rear fenders? Thank the DOT for the rear fender. And it won't be a powerhouse, so that exhaust should do fine for the average owner of that bike who doesn't subscribe to the "loud pipes save lives" mantra. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 1:52:33 PM EDT
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Someone asked earlier about whether the engine would be re-tuned. Apparently it will...
http://www.sportrider.com/sportbikes/2015-kawasaki-versys-1000-lt-first-look The Versys 1000 utilizes the same 1043cc inline-four powerplant as the Z1000 and Ninja 1000, but with subtle changes to improve low-end torque and midrange power. Different combustion chambers reduce compression from the Z1000/Ninja 1000’s 11.8:1 to 10.3:1, with milder cams sporting less lift, duration, and overlap. First and second gear ratios are shorter, and third through sixth gears are taller. Awesome, IMO. One of my favorite aspects of the 650 is the low-end torque. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 4:51:38 PM EDT
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Someone asked earlier about whether the engine would be re-tuned. Apparently it will... http://www.sportrider.com/sportbikes/2015-kawasaki-versys-1000-lt-first-look The Versys 1000 utilizes the same 1043cc inline-four powerplant as the Z1000 and Ninja 1000, but with subtle changes to improve low-end torque and midrange power. Different combustion chambers reduce compression from the Z1000/Ninja 1000’s 11.8:1 to 10.3:1, with milder cams sporting less lift, duration, and overlap. First and second gear ratios are shorter, and third through sixth gears are taller. Awesome, IMO. One of my favorite aspects of the 650 is the low-end torque. I would not want a detuned engine. Give me the full tilt boogie engine. 
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Posted: 10/17/2014 12:46:39 AM EDT
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I would not want a detuned engine. Give me the full tilt boogie engine It says re-tuned...not de-tuned. The Z/N1K's already have hellacious midrange. If this tune improves the low/mid-range, then... 
This V1K is the bike I've been wanting ever since I bought my Ninja 1K a year and a half ago. Same engine/frame, with a more pillion-friendly seat/subframe and better bag integration than my Givi V35's. The biggest choke on the 1043 engine is the headers, not the mufflers. You can remove the stock mufflers on the Ninja, and noise only increases slightly. The catbox under the bike chokes most of the sound. Biggest advantage to removing the stock mufflers is weight. Mine has full Akro exhaust (header and mufflers)...noticeable difference in power increase, weight reduction, and heat reduction. I noticed in the Kawi promo video one of the V1K bikes had an Akro muffler...hopefully they'll produce a header also. If they don't go berserk with the MSRP, I'll be selling the N1K and picking one up. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 2:23:22 AM EDT
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Oooooooo shit. I had a 2009 ER-6N that I really liked but wanted something just a little bigger with more power. That Versys 1000 looks mighty tempting.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 3:02:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It says re-tuned...not de-tuned. The Z/N1K's already have hellacious midrange. If this tune improves the low/mid-range, then... This V1K is the bike I've been wanting ever since I bought my Ninja 1K a year and a half ago. Same engine/frame, with a more pillion-friendly seat/subframe and better bag integration than my Givi V35's. The biggest choke on the 1043 engine is the headers, not the mufflers. You can remove the stock mufflers on the Ninja, and noise only increases slightly. The catbox under the bike chokes most of the sound. Biggest advantage to removing the stock mufflers is weight. Mine has full Akro exhaust (header and mufflers)...noticeable difference in power increase, weight reduction, and heat reduction. I noticed in the Kawi promo video one of the V1K bikes had an Akro muffler...hopefully they'll produce a header also. If they don't go berserk with the MSRP, I'll be selling the N1K and picking one up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would not want a detuned engine. Give me the full tilt boogie engine It says re-tuned...not de-tuned. The Z/N1K's already have hellacious midrange. If this tune improves the low/mid-range, then... This V1K is the bike I've been wanting ever since I bought my Ninja 1K a year and a half ago. Same engine/frame, with a more pillion-friendly seat/subframe and better bag integration than my Givi V35's. The biggest choke on the 1043 engine is the headers, not the mufflers. You can remove the stock mufflers on the Ninja, and noise only increases slightly. The catbox under the bike chokes most of the sound. Biggest advantage to removing the stock mufflers is weight. Mine has full Akro exhaust (header and mufflers)...noticeable difference in power increase, weight reduction, and heat reduction. I noticed in the Kawi promo video one of the V1K bikes had an Akro muffler...hopefully they'll produce a header also. If they don't go berserk with the MSRP, I'll be selling the N1K and picking one up. Each and every time they (the Big 4) say re-tuned they mean neutered. Re-tuned for bottom end and midrange mean no top end. I can list a bunch of bikes that Kawasaki has done that stupid shit to. "The ZL900 engine was a transplanted and slightly modified version of the liquid-cooled Inline 4 introduced in the 1984 Kawasaki ZX900 Ninja. Kawasaki used smaller 32 mm carburetors (the ZX900 used 34 mm), different timing and camshafts with less duration. This gave the engine a different personality, trading the Ninja's high-end power for low-end and mid-range performance that was more suitable for a cruiser." Translation: We removed the balls from the engine and gave it a vagina. ZX-11 - 145 bhp ZRX-1100 - 106 bhp And then they do stupid shit like give the de-balled bikes a 5 speed transmission. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:09:11 AM EDT
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Neutered on the top end means a better all around engine for a bike designed to be closer to the adv touring market. It's not a sport bike.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:09:13 AM EDT
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I'm stoked that the versys 1000 is finally coming to the US. personally I'm not big on the aesthetic redesign though, looks too much like the vstrom.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:54:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neutered on the top end means a better all around engine for a bike designed to be closer to the adv touring market. It's not a sport bike.  If KTM can have a 150 HP adventure touring bike...
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:02:58 AM EDT
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The Versys 1000 LT is powered by a version of the counterbalanced 1043cc inline-four found in the Z1000 and Ninja 1000, tuned to produce a claimed 120 hp and 72.2 foot pounds of torque (the latest Z1000 is rated at 142 hp and 81.7 foot pounds of torque while the latest Ninja1000 makes 138 hp and 74.4 foot pounds of torque).
The Ninja 1000 engine waslready de-tuned for more "midrange". Another bike that has had its balls removed.  |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 5:46:57 PM EDT
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The Versys 1000 LT is powered by a version of the counterbalanced 1043cc inline-four found in the Z1000 and Ninja 1000, tuned to produce a claimed 120 hp and 72.2 foot pounds of torque (the latest Z1000 is rated at 142 hp and 81.7 foot pounds of torque while the latest Ninja1000 makes 138 hp and 74.4 foot pounds of torque).The Ninja 1000 engine waslready de-tuned for more "midrange". Another bike that has had its balls removed.
120hp and 72.2 = no balls? interesting. and what monstrous power house of a bike are you riding? |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 9:25:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 120hp and 72.2 = no balls? interesting. and what monstrous power house of a bike are you riding? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Versys 1000 LT is powered by a version of the counterbalanced 1043cc inline-four found in the Z1000 and Ninja 1000, tuned to produce a claimed 120 hp and 72.2 foot pounds of torque (the latest Z1000 is rated at 142 hp and 81.7 foot pounds of torque while the latest Ninja1000 makes 138 hp and 74.4 foot pounds of torque).The Ninja 1000 engine waslready de-tuned for more "midrange". Another bike that has had its balls removed. 120hp and 72.2 = no balls? interesting. and what monstrous power house of a bike are you riding? 131 HP TL1000R, 48 HP 2011 KTM 300, 52 HP KTM XCW. What about you?
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