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Posted: 8/20/2012 11:43:26 PM

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Like the title says; yes or no? Here are some details:

Body isn't too bad, the paint isn't near perfect but otherwise it's pretty straight.

Carbed 302..looks to be all there and not too molested.

Seller claim doesn't run, but doesn't have a battery either, so wondering if it does run and he's just covering his ass or if it really doesn't.

Interior dirty but doesn't look too bad minus the seats, they are all tore up, would probably do a black interior swap anyhow.

Windows are down and appear to be left down BUT it;s been dryer than hell this summer so may not be a big deal UNLESS they were broken and left down before the summer

Thinking about picking it up...maybe walking in waving $200 cash and see if he bites.

Any input or ideas? Kinda been wanting one of these recently and if i could get it this cheap and get it going, working on it as i go (eventually repaint black, maybe build up the 302, dual exhaust) might be pretty fun.

I've done projects before (88 Trans Am GTA and 79 Jeep J10 pickup) so i'm not a newbie to fixing these old things up.
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Posted: 8/21/2012 12:23:29 AM
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Not worth the effort. You are FAR better off finding one which runs and the windows were not left down. A used transmission alone can cost you $400. I have a spare engine and tranny which would work in that car and I would run fast and far from it. They are not worth shit so any money spent on it would net you no return.
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Posted: 8/21/2012 12:29:55 AM
You do realize what the price of scrap is right.

Especially scrap catalyitic converters
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Posted: 8/21/2012 12:32:03 AM
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AW HELLZ NAW!


If you're going to get a big boat project car, why not go WAY out, spend a little more and get some gigantic 70's Merc or Lincoln pimpmobile with a big block?




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Posted: 8/21/2012 4:38:10 AM
Buy it. Scrap it.
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Posted: 8/21/2012 7:34:09 AM
Yeah, I think you can get almost $300 just for it's weight at a steel yard. If it's what you want and you like working on things and you have $300, buy it. Whatever makes you happy.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 8:32:14 AM
carbed 302? are you sure? lincoln 302s had a odd tbi then IIRC, 2 multiport injectors on the bores
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Posted: 8/26/2012 9:31:43 AM
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Run away. Your monthly maintenance costs just to keep that vehicle operating and roadworthy will far exceed the low purchase price.

I used to tell customers this all the time. Not only would they not listen, they'd complain to me about the $500 a month in towing and repair bills their bargain vehicle was costing them.



Eta: Unless you want it for a demo derby. Then go for it.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 11:14:29 AM
For that price, I'd strip it down and sell all the parts. I find it funny how NOBODY wants this car, but people will pay $500 for the engine alone as a replacement. Strip and sell everything you can and sell the rest by weight at the scrap yard=PROFIT. Or just fix it and drive it your self. I paid $200 for a '79 lincoln MK5 then put the 400/c6 in my '26 Ford Model T and the 9" rearend in another vehicle, then sold the rest for scrap.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 11:26:17 AM

Originally Posted By AASG:
For that price, I'd strip it down and sell all the parts. I find it funny how NOBODY wants this car, but people will pay $500 for the engine alone as a replacement. Strip and sell everything you can and sell the rest by weight at the scrap yard=PROFIT. Or just fix it and drive it your self. I paid $200 for a '79 lincoln MK5 then put the 400/c6 in my '26 Ford Model T and the 9" rearend in another vehicle, then sold the rest for scrap.

Pics of car?

I have a 400/c6 in my F100.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 11:26:26 AM
For $300 cash I would buy it as long as it has a clear title. No point in fixing it up if it's not going to be streetable without more paperwork and $$$

Might be woth throwing some new gas and a battery in there to see if it will fire. If it runs, you could sell it for around $1,000 and make some easy money.

Or if everything seems to fail, you could scrap it for the $300 you have in it. I'm a sucker for tinkering on cars so I would do it. I'm 23 and am on car number 13
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Posted: 8/26/2012 11:29:11 AM
Originally Posted By Drunktech:
Buy it. Scrap it.


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Posted: 8/26/2012 1:06:09 PM
I don't have any pics of the car. My friend was telling me about some kind of Mary Kay cars Lincoln made in the 80s and we thought it might be one of those, but it isn't; it's just faded and almost pink . Never knew about the Lincoln 302 maybe havinf fuel injection; I know in the late-80s they went to multiport like the mustangs. Might hafta look into it again. I'm still not sure what I want to do; if I can get the cash together I thought about going by again to ask about title and whatnot, as well as looking it over a lot closer and forming a better opinion on condition. If I did buy it, I'd like to make it a project and get it going again...nothing immediate just something to tinker with.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 1:15:21 PM
Originally Posted By gunner_jj:
Originally Posted By Drunktech:
Buy it. Scrap it.




Mess with it for a week at night. If it runs and drives fix it up. If it is crap, you are out very little if any money.

(Is the converter still there?) These sell as scrap for 60 bucks and up.

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Posted: 8/26/2012 1:43:15 PM
Originally Posted By ArmaLiteM15KevinZ:
I don't have any pics of the car. My friend was telling me about some kind of Mary Kay cars Lincoln made in the 80s and we thought it might be one of those, but it isn't; it's just faded and almost pink . Never knew about the Lincoln 302 maybe havinf fuel injection; I know in the late-80s they went to multiport like the mustangs. Might hafta look into it again. I'm still not sure what I want to do; if I can get the cash together I thought about going by again to ask about title and whatnot, as well as looking it over a lot closer and forming a better opinion on condition. If I did buy it, I'd like to make it a project and get it going again...nothing immediate just something to tinker with.


Pretty sure it is just a Ford motor. My '79 lincoln said "Ford" on everything, valve covers and everything.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 2:50:41 PM
1985 Lincoln would be throttle body fuel injection and not a carburetor. My guess is that you never removed the air cleaner to see the throttle body....
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Posted: 8/26/2012 2:58:50 PM

Originally Posted By Interceptor_Knight:
1985 Lincoln would be throttle body fuel injection and not a carburetor. My guess is that you never removed the air cleaner to see the throttle body....

Or it was converted, as were many cars of the 80's and early 90's when people didn't want to spend a bunch of time fixing early EFI.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 3:08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Interceptor_Knight:
1985 Lincoln would be throttle body fuel injection and not a carburetor. My guess is that you never removed the air cleaner to see the throttle body....

Or it was converted, as were many cars of the 80's and early 90's when people didn't want to spend a bunch of time fixing early EFI.


Although that is a possibility, I have seen few converted properly so that they stayed on the road very long. Once 1986 came along and Ford went to port injection even fewer cars were converted with the exception of track Mustangs, etc. It was easier to keep the EFI than to convert for most people.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 3:32:49 PM

Originally Posted By Interceptor_Knight:
Originally Posted By Madcap72:

Originally Posted By Interceptor_Knight:
1985 Lincoln would be throttle body fuel injection and not a carburetor. My guess is that you never removed the air cleaner to see the throttle body....

Or it was converted, as were many cars of the 80's and early 90's when people didn't want to spend a bunch of time fixing early EFI.


Although that is a possibility, I have seen few converted properly so that they stayed on the road very long. Once 1986 came along and Ford went to port injection even fewer cars were converted with the exception of track Mustangs, etc. It was easier to keep the EFI than to convert for most people.

I've never seen one converted that didn't look like ass.




Saw it on TONS of Dodge Trucks though.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 11:49:31 PM
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I've never seen one converted that didn't look like ass.

When I did a couple of them, I went through the trouble of swapping out the pump in the tank for a factory carb style and then running a low pressure in-line fuel pump. I ran new fuel lines from the tank to the carb. I used a factory Ford 2V carb with the correct linkage for the AOD transmission. Since I used mostly factory parts it looked like a factory setup.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 11:58:59 PM

Originally Posted By Interceptor_Knight:
Originally Posted By Madcap72:

I've never seen one converted that didn't look like ass.

When I did a couple of them, I went through the trouble of swapping out the pump in the tank for a factory carb style and then running a low pressure in-line fuel pump. I ran new fuel lines from the tank to the carb. I used a factory Ford 2V carb with the correct linkage for the AOD transmission. Since I used mostly factory parts it looked like a factory setup.

Nice! I imagine you cleaned up everything as well, and got rid of all the extra wires and such, you come across as a stickler for stuff like that.

All the conversions I've seen look like they were done by a one armed blind man. Just saw a 1999 Cobra mustang for sale on Craigslist like that, carb stuck on it** and ugly as piss.





** There is a chance it's not the right engine, didn't look close past all the nasty wiring and BS.
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Posted: 8/27/2012 12:29:53 AM
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Nice! I imagine you cleaned up everything as well, and got rid of all the extra wires and such, you come across as a stickler for stuff like that.

There were some things which were no longer functional but it made more sense to just leave them plugged in just so that I would not have pigtails open to the elements. I didn't cut into the harness in case I wanted to change it back to sell the car. I solder my own jumper harnesses when I retrofit things so that they are plug-and-play and easily returnable to the factory components. The other advantage is that I can swap the whole setup from one car to the other in a relatively short time.

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Posted: 8/27/2012 12:31:52 AM
Originally Posted By ArmaLiteM15KevinZ:
Like the title says; yes or no?




Is that what AW HELLZ NAW means? I wasn't sure what language that was.
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