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Posted: 8/6/2012 3:22:53 PM
[Last Edit: 8/6/2012 3:24:48 PM by Krochus]
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I wouldn't put a fucking fram on my lawnmower or a $400 f150 I can't help but wonder how many $15,000 engines have been ruined with these sub wal mart grade "filters"? |
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Posted: 8/6/2012 4:14:36 PM
[Last Edit: 8/6/2012 4:14:53 PM by BWhalen]
While not the most robust oil filters on the market, I don't know of any class-action law suits against Fram either.
This is a pretty good comparo/review of about 10 different filters by maker. http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/technical-chat/123608-toyota-oil-filter-made-thailand-vs-competition.html |
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Posted: 8/6/2012 5:41:12 PM
Been using Fram filters for years. Never had a problem. Then again, while I'm not a clueless collector, neither am I a whiny whatever. Some people read too much and do too little.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 6:04:25 PM
In before someone posts a link to the pre-1998 Minimopar site that cut apart some Fram oil filters designed for the Ford 302 small block V8
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Posted: 8/6/2012 6:42:19 PM
never had any issues with fram.
put 150k miles on a truck that already 150k on it....using fram filters. |
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Posted: 8/6/2012 7:38:55 PM
Not a Fram fan. Are they still not using back-flow preventers?
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Posted: 8/6/2012 7:44:13 PM
Originally Posted By Undertow:
Not a Fram fan. Are they still not using back-flow preventers? No And on the cars in question they're mounted upside down! As if its not bad enough listing to a Ford or Jeep death rattle on every dry startup caused by a fram |
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BiggEZ
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Posted: 8/6/2012 9:25:50 PM
Originally Posted By Krochus:
Originally Posted By Undertow:
Not a Fram fan. Are they still not using back-flow preventers? No And on the cars in question they're mounted upside down! As if its not bad enough listing to a Ford or Jeep death rattle on every dry startup caused by a fram Theres your problem.. not the filters.  |
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Posted: 8/6/2012 9:29:01 PM
dry sump? back flow preventer wouldn't matter
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Posted: 8/6/2012 9:44:46 PM
I ran Fram exclusively for 2 decades. We put 250,000 miles on a 2001 dodge 360 ram 1500. Never had problems.
A while back I started a thread here about filters. Because of that I switched to Purolator and Napa Gold. I've been running K&N on my Harley, but just bought Purolators for that to. |
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GNRNR
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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:41:53 PM
Meh, Job security.
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Aimless
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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:43:04 PM
What's wrong with Fram?
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Posted: 8/7/2012 8:05:50 AM
[Last Edit: 8/7/2012 8:08:20 AM by AASG]
Originally Posted By BWhalen:
While not the most robust oil filters on the market, I don't know of any class-action law suits against Fram either. This is a pretty good comparo/review of about 10 different filters by maker. http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/technical-chat/123608-toyota-oil-filter-made-thailand-vs-competition.html While that guy measured the meadia inside the filters, he really had no way of knowing what micron size the media stops or allows through. I don't know if his testing really means anything.
ETA: I always bought fram because it was a name I knew, from all their advertising. I think they must be the only company that spends much at all on advertising oil filters. |
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cmjohnson
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Posted: 8/7/2012 8:17:43 AM
Fram isn't the ultimate quality filter but they work. If you change your oil according to the manufacturer's recommended schedule,
no filter will ever get clogged enough to bypass. They're good enough for normal service. Find evidence of engine failures traced to Fram filters AND not related to neglected oil levels and change intervals if you want me to join your side of the discussion. Put up or shut up. CJ |
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chibajoe
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Posted: 8/7/2012 9:01:01 AM
Been running them on my Maseratis for 15 years now without any problems.
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86HMMWV
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Posted: 8/7/2012 10:07:37 AM
Originally Posted By chibajoe:
Been running them on my Maseratis for 15 years now without any problems. Where in Louisiana are you? |
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louisianarebel
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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:09:16 AM
Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Originally Posted By chibajoe:
Been running them on my Maseratis for 15 years now without any problems. Where in Louisiana are you? I know a guy from addis that has one... |
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45FMJoe
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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:12:03 AM
WIX or go home.
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thecreeper23
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Posted: 8/7/2012 12:06:21 PM
Originally Posted By 45FMJoe:
WIX or go home. Cold start rattle in my Jeep went away when I switch ed to Wix. Previous owner used Fram. |
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Posted: 8/7/2012 12:10:12 PM
Why is fram bad?
I used one on my jeep and it had a back flow preventer. |
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jlficken
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Posted: 8/7/2012 12:31:09 PM
I've always used Napa Gold (Wix) just because they are cheap (when bought on sale) and haven't ever heard anything good about Fram.
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chibajoe
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Posted: 8/7/2012 12:32:18 PM
Originally Posted By louisianarebel:
Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Originally Posted By chibajoe:
Been running them on my Maseratis for 15 years now without any problems. Where in Louisiana are you? I know a guy from addis that has one... New Orleans. I have a bunch of them.  |
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Posted: 8/7/2012 2:55:33 PM
Originally Posted By BWhalen:
While not the most robust oil filters on the market, I don't know of any class-action law suits against Fram either. This is a pretty good comparo/review of about 10 different filters by maker. http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/technical-chat/123608-toyota-oil-filter-made-thailand-vs-competition.html this is actually a pretty WEAK REVIEW I mean he even cried about royal purple. the only thing he even looked at was filter paper LENGTH never mind what micron the media filters at!! the micron size IS what does all the filtering. so what if a filter has 56 inches of media or 225, if the 56 filters1 micron and the 225 does 25 micron then so what. I was interested until i saw that he was only looking for LENGTH of media and not mesh or material type. FAIL |
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Posted: 8/7/2012 3:02:46 PM
I use them on my toyota, 180,000 miles. No knocking,rattling or blowing up here. I use mobil 1, changed every 5,000 miles. The filter is mounted upside down too.
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diggerwolf
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Posted: 8/7/2012 3:07:25 PM
The whole "FRAM filters are junk" thing is just a myth.
OP's weak rant is weak. |
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TxLewis
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Posted: 8/7/2012 3:25:37 PM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
What's wrong with Fram? Too common? Used fram for ever. Never had an oil related problem. TXL |
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