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Posted: 6/28/2012 7:39:51 AM
Originally Posted By avery2007:
I was going through KIA on my way back to BAF by C-130 and we all had to go through the metal detector to make sure we weren't carrying explosives of any kind. Sure... Whatever no grenades, flashbangs, primers, etc... Got it. Myself and 2 others were all loaded up with our M4s, M9s, ammo, knives, resuce tools, mutli-tools, etc. and then there's my Benchmade Nimravus knife on my vest. The guy at the scanner got into a big fit with me that I couldn't bring that knife on-board the C-130, but he'd let me carry everything else including my M4, M9, and all my ammo. Say what? Are you retarded? We argued for a good minute before someone else intervened and told him it was ok. I was just dumb founded by this guy questioning a damn knife and not even giving two fucks about my M4 and M9 and all my damn ammo... Where do we get these guys? . Were you flying on a British bird? I got questioned about my asp baton... nevermind I have a fully automatic Mk18 with me. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 7:51:21 AM
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Just heard yesterday that a Bn CDR has forbid her battalion from consuming energy drinks because "she's heard that they casue heart attacks". Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, 2012. Yes... stupidity travels far. It is simply unfathomable the amount of silly restirctions Senior Army Leaders put in place because they "heard" something rather than using any sort of verifiable data. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 7:52:31 AM
Originally Posted By BD1a:
Originally Posted By avery2007:
I was going through KIA on my way back to BAF by C-130 and we all had to go through the metal detector to make sure we weren't carrying explosives of any kind. Sure... Whatever no grenades, flashbangs, primers, etc... Got it. Myself and 2 others were all loaded up with our M4s, M9s, ammo, knives, resuce tools, mutli-tools, etc. and then there's my Benchmade Nimravus knife on my vest. The guy at the scanner got into a big fit with me that I couldn't bring that knife on-board the C-130, but he'd let me carry everything else including my M4, M9, and all my ammo. Say what? Are you retarded? We argued for a good minute before someone else intervened and told him it was ok. I was just dumb founded by this guy questioning a damn knife and not even giving two fucks about my M4 and M9 and all my damn ammo... Where do we get these guys? Now this is at BAF. At the Aviation DFAC the SGM didn't let a SFC in because he had his glasses on and no eyepro. When he tried to explain that he was never issued the inserts for the eyepro the SGM said he didn't care and to find somewhere else to eat. How lame is that? Denying him food because he didn't have eyepro. Again, it really is a miracle SGM/CSM havent been murdered by their own soldiers. When they need defense counsel give me a call. Ladies and Gentlemen of the panel - I give you the last set of instructions the SGM issued . . . . |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 8:38:23 AM
Originally Posted By sms5183:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Just heard yesterday that a Bn CDR has forbid her battalion from consuming energy drinks because "she's heard that they casue heart attacks". Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, 2012. Yes... stupidity travels far. It is simply unfathomable the amount of silly restirctions Senior Army Leaders put in place because they "heard" something rather than using any sort of verifiable data. It boggles the mind that college degree holders with some 15 or 20 years in the Army are actually this stupid. I'm just glad I'm not in this unit, I would have long pulled my remaining hair out. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 8:51:29 AM
Originally Posted By sms5183:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Just heard yesterday that a Bn CDR has forbid her battalion from consuming energy drinks because "she's heard that they casue heart attacks". Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, 2012. Yes... stupidity travels far. It is simply unfathomable the amount of silly restirctions Senior Army Leaders put in place because they "heard" something rather than using any sort of verifiable data. This is my opinion on knee pads. I don't believe that they are protective equipment. They're a fucking comfort item. I don't believe they prevent a significant amount of injuries. Nobody can produce any kind of objective research or studies that says knee pads prevent common injuries. NO VERIFIABLE DATA. Somebody's opinion. It's not like they're ballistic either. Talk to the Docs about the type of knee injuries they usually encounter, typically it's some sort of hyper-extension, torn ACL, or damage to the cartilage from compression (i.e. running w/ a heel-strike gait). It's rarely from direct impact. AAARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! FUCKING KNEE PADS!!!!!!!!!!! Unsprung weight, restricts free movement, traps heat. If you want to wear them because it's more comfortable when you take a knee, go right ahead, but it shouldn't bee mandatory. We have to wear them outside the wire and my Joes have to wear them on tower guard. We even have to wear them on jumps in the rear. Last I heard, knees aren't one of the five points of contact. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 9:07:49 AM
Originally Posted By born2lose76:
my Joes have to wear them on tower guard. Top 10 material. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 9:28:21 AM
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Originally Posted By BD1a:
Originally Posted By born2lose76:
my Joes have to wear them on tower guard. Top 10 material. Tower guard can be hell on your kneecaps. 
You can't even use the "taking a knee" excuse. If you're kneeling, you can't see out of the tower. Ludicrous. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 1:14:26 PM
Oh... knee pads! I thought they were ankle warmers!
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Posted: 6/28/2012 2:50:44 PM
[Last Edit: 6/28/2012 2:57:13 PM by daemon734]
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Originally Posted By sms5183:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Just heard yesterday that a Bn CDR has forbid her battalion from consuming energy drinks because "she's heard that they casue heart attacks". Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, 2012. Yes... stupidity travels far. It is simply unfathomable the amount of silly restirctions Senior Army Leaders put in place because they "heard" something rather than using any sort of verifiable data. It boggles the mind that college degree holders with some 15 or 20 years in the Army are actually this stupid. I'm just glad I'm not in this unit, I would have long pulled my remaining hair out. Fuck it, more monsters for me and my guys out at the Nathan Smith shopette. The best I saw were the MP's in Kandahar that weren't allowed to eat or drink water before 6pm during Ramadan. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 6:54:14 PM
Originally Posted By daemon734:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Originally Posted By sms5183:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Just heard yesterday that a Bn CDR has forbid her battalion from consuming energy drinks because "she's heard that they casue heart attacks". Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, 2012. Yes... stupidity travels far. It is simply unfathomable the amount of silly restirctions Senior Army Leaders put in place because they "heard" something rather than using any sort of verifiable data. It boggles the mind that college degree holders with some 15 or 20 years in the Army are actually this stupid. I'm just glad I'm not in this unit, I would have long pulled my remaining hair out. Fuck it, more monsters for me and my guys out at the Nathan Smith shopette. The best I saw were the MP's in Kandahar that weren't allowed to eat or drink water before 6pm during Ramadan. When stupid transitions to dangerous. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 7:08:29 PM
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Originally Posted By avery2007:
I was going through KIA on my way back to BAF by C-130 and we all had to go through the metal detector to make sure we weren't carrying explosives of any kind. Sure... Whatever no grenades, flashbangs, primers, etc... Got it. Myself and 2 others were all loaded up with our M4s, M9s, ammo, knives, resuce tools, mutli-tools, etc. and then there's my Benchmade Nimravus knife on my vest. The guy at the scanner got into a big fit with me that I couldn't bring that knife on-board the C-130, but he'd let me carry everything else including my M4, M9, and all my ammo. Say what? Are you retarded? We argued for a good minute before someone else intervened and told him it was ok. I was just dumb founded by this guy questioning a damn knife and not even giving two fucks about my M4 and M9 and all my damn ammo... Where do we get these guys? . Were you flying on a British bird? I got questioned about my asp baton... nevermind I have a fully automatic Mk18 with me. When I came home, customs rule was only MPs with a letter from their commander could bring home ASPs. No idea who thought of that faggotry. |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 3:42:21 PM
Originally Posted By daemon734:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Originally Posted By sms5183:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Just heard yesterday that a Bn CDR has forbid her battalion from consuming energy drinks because "she's heard that they casue heart attacks". Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, 2012. Yes... stupidity travels far. It is simply unfathomable the amount of silly restirctions Senior Army Leaders put in place because they "heard" something rather than using any sort of verifiable data. It boggles the mind that college degree holders with some 15 or 20 years in the Army are actually this stupid. I'm just glad I'm not in this unit, I would have long pulled my remaining hair out. Fuck it, more monsters for me and my guys out at the Nathan Smith shopette. The best I saw were the MP's in Kandahar that weren't allowed to eat or drink water before 6pm during Ramadan. And that last CSM's faggotry has been eclipsed, my god whoever gave that order should have been put in front of a firing squad |
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Posted: 6/30/2012 8:06:04 PM
Originally Posted By badgerdogz:
Originally Posted By daemon734:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Originally Posted By sms5183:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Just heard yesterday that a Bn CDR has forbid her battalion from consuming energy drinks because "she's heard that they casue heart attacks". Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, 2012. Yes... stupidity travels far. It is simply unfathomable the amount of silly restirctions Senior Army Leaders put in place because they "heard" something rather than using any sort of verifiable data. It boggles the mind that college degree holders with some 15 or 20 years in the Army are actually this stupid. I'm just glad I'm not in this unit, I would have long pulled my remaining hair out. Fuck it, more monsters for me and my guys out at the Nathan Smith shopette. The best I saw were the MP's in Kandahar that weren't allowed to eat or drink water before 6pm during Ramadan. And that last CSM's faggotry has been eclipsed, my god whoever gave that order should have been put in front of a firing squad Gotta justify that OER/NCOER or BS w/ V. I cant wait until us Children of the COIN take over. Another 10 years and I think the military is going to take some intresting turns. |
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Posted: 6/30/2012 8:29:11 PM
Originally Posted By BD1a:
Originally Posted By badgerdogz:
Originally Posted By daemon734:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Originally Posted By sms5183:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Just heard yesterday that a Bn CDR has forbid her battalion from consuming energy drinks because "she's heard that they casue heart attacks". Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, 2012. Yes... stupidity travels far. It is simply unfathomable the amount of silly restirctions Senior Army Leaders put in place because they "heard" something rather than using any sort of verifiable data. It boggles the mind that college degree holders with some 15 or 20 years in the Army are actually this stupid. I'm just glad I'm not in this unit, I would have long pulled my remaining hair out. Fuck it, more monsters for me and my guys out at the Nathan Smith shopette. The best I saw were the MP's in Kandahar that weren't allowed to eat or drink water before 6pm during Ramadan. And that last CSM's faggotry has been eclipsed, my god whoever gave that order should have been put in front of a firing squad Gotta justify that OER/NCOER or BS w/ V. I cant wait until us Children of the COIN take over. Another 10 years and I think the military is going to take some intresting turns. Doubt it, those with common sense and the wherewithal to put their troops welfare first will be forced out either through attrition or by those whom hid out for the past few years getting promoted by their PT score. |
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daemon734
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Posted: 6/30/2012 9:53:00 PM
Originally Posted By NUcadet07:
Originally Posted By BD1a:
Originally Posted By badgerdogz:
Originally Posted By daemon734:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Originally Posted By sms5183:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Just heard yesterday that a Bn CDR has forbid her battalion from consuming energy drinks because "she's heard that they casue heart attacks". Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, 2012. Yes... stupidity travels far. It is simply unfathomable the amount of silly restirctions Senior Army Leaders put in place because they "heard" something rather than using any sort of verifiable data. It boggles the mind that college degree holders with some 15 or 20 years in the Army are actually this stupid. I'm just glad I'm not in this unit, I would have long pulled my remaining hair out. Fuck it, more monsters for me and my guys out at the Nathan Smith shopette. The best I saw were the MP's in Kandahar that weren't allowed to eat or drink water before 6pm during Ramadan. And that last CSM's faggotry has been eclipsed, my god whoever gave that order should have been put in front of a firing squad Gotta justify that OER/NCOER or BS w/ V. I cant wait until us Children of the COIN take over. Another 10 years and I think the military is going to take some intresting turns. Doubt it, those with common sense and the wherewithal to put their troops welfare first will be forced out either through attrition or by those whom hid out for the past few years getting promoted by their PT score. My personal goal in life is to offer soldiers leadership and guidance without even 10% of the bullshit I had to deal with while I was coming up. I literally bust my ass every day trying to not be that shitbag NCO I have seen over and over. I made E6 in 5 years mostly through a burning hatred for the way my leaders were and that motivated me to do what it takes to take that spot myself. Now I have my own platoon and I will personally hammer any of my NCOs that feel entitled or who show incompetence or lack of legitimate leadership ability. I come in early, stay late, and spend my nights and weekends doing anything I can for my soldiers. I am resolute in fixing my little corner of the army and I refuse to leave until I'm satisfied that no soldier would have to go through the same nonsense that I had to. i guess I'm like Reservist in that I feel like I had the poorest examples of leadership possible, except instead of whining about it and trying to get out it actually makes me want to go as high up as I can. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:21:43 AM
[Last Edit: 7/2/2012 12:22:12 AM by Mxpatriot51]
Here's what I don't understand about a lot of silliness in the Army and the NCO Corps:
That shit should stop at the Platoon Sergeant.
Platoon Sergeant should be the best job in the world because you should have the most freedom to do things the smart way. You should be a beacon of common sense; your rater is a Lieutenant, who has not been in the Army long enough to be indoctrinated into the stupid. If you have a First Sergeant who has their head up their ass - so what. They don't rate you. Let them do the monkey dance. Blame me - the Lieutenant; he doesn't rate me either. You do what you have to do to take care of the troops and get the job done, I'll put up the smoke screen to keep the Commander happy and out of our business. At the end of the day, the mission accomplishment and troop welfare that your common sense yields will write your 1-1 NCOER.
My first platoon sergeant understood that. The rest haven't.
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BD1a
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Posted: 7/2/2012 2:26:57 AM
Originally Posted By daemon734:
Originally Posted By NUcadet07:
Originally Posted By BD1a:
Originally Posted By badgerdogz:
Originally Posted By daemon734:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Originally Posted By sms5183:
Originally Posted By kudzu630:
Just heard yesterday that a Bn CDR has forbid her battalion from consuming energy drinks because "she's heard that they casue heart attacks". Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, 2012. Yes... stupidity travels far. It is simply unfathomable the amount of silly restirctions Senior Army Leaders put in place because they "heard" something rather than using any sort of verifiable data. It boggles the mind that college degree holders with some 15 or 20 years in the Army are actually this stupid. I'm just glad I'm not in this unit, I would have long pulled my remaining hair out. Fuck it, more monsters for me and my guys out at the Nathan Smith shopette. The best I saw were the MP's in Kandahar that weren't allowed to eat or drink water before 6pm during Ramadan. And that last CSM's faggotry has been eclipsed, my god whoever gave that order should have been put in front of a firing squad Gotta justify that OER/NCOER or BS w/ V. I cant wait until us Children of the COIN take over. Another 10 years and I think the military is going to take some intresting turns. Doubt it, those with common sense and the wherewithal to put their troops welfare first will be forced out either through attrition or by those whom hid out for the past few years getting promoted by their PT score. My personal goal in life is to offer soldiers leadership and guidance without even 10% of the bullshit I had to deal with while I was coming up. I literally bust my ass every day trying to not be that shitbag NCO I have seen over and over. I made E6 in 5 years mostly through a burning hatred for the way my leaders were and that motivated me to do what it takes to take that spot myself. Now I have my own platoon and I will personally hammer any of my NCOs that feel entitled or who show incompetence or lack of legitimate leadership ability. I come in early, stay late, and spend my nights and weekends doing anything I can for my soldiers. I am resolute in fixing my little corner of the army and I refuse to leave until I'm satisfied that no soldier would have to go through the same nonsense that I had to. i guess I'm like Reservist in that I feel like I had the poorest examples of leadership possible, except instead of whining about it and trying to get out it actually makes me want to go as high up as I can. Folks like us are exceedingly rare. I know my rank progression has sufferd for it(not that I care). Keep fighting that fight brother. At the end of the day the guys you took that beating for will always remember you for it. In combat, they will also follow you into hell for it with a smile on their face. |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 9:52:57 PM
Originally Posted By Aeain:
Everyone knows the PT belt at big FOBs and the such, any other idiotic or weird deployment regulations out there? My unit has to wear Eyepro outside 24/7 and we are going to wear it to our redeployment ceremony.  Do the guys that are required to wear glasses, have eye pro? Do they get sunglesses? |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:58:59 AM
Originally Posted By pennsylvaniaboy:
Originally Posted By Aeain:
Everyone knows the PT belt at big FOBs and the such, any other idiotic or weird deployment regulations out there? My unit has to wear Eyepro outside 24/7 and we are going to wear it to our redeployment ceremony. Do the guys that are required to wear glasses, have eye pro? Do they get sunglesses? They get perscription lenses that clip to the inside of the ballistic eyewear. |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 2:26:16 PM
Originally Posted By von_landstuhl:
Originally Posted By pennsylvaniaboy:
Originally Posted By Aeain:
Everyone knows the PT belt at big FOBs and the such, any other idiotic or weird deployment regulations out there? My unit has to wear Eyepro outside 24/7 and we are going to wear it to our redeployment ceremony. Do the guys that are required to wear glasses, have eye pro? Do they get sunglesses? They get perscription lenses that clip to the inside of the ballistic eyewear. Then the insert tears up the eyepro, making them damn near blind anyway. |
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Posted: 7/27/2012 2:16:37 AM
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Camp Stryker had some pretty stupid regs in '09. My little COP in AFG was much better about minimal bullshit. Highest level of leadership present was Company, so life wasn't too bad at all. Our BN had some pretty retarded SOP's, but nothing unlivable.
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Posted: 7/27/2012 11:15:16 PM
[Last Edit: 7/27/2012 11:19:08 PM by JonJR]
No round in the chamber at our FOB. But when I'm home I keep one in the chamber 99% of the time when I carry w/o safety (Glock ccw). Police keep one in the chamber state side but at war we cant. My commander kept checking our weapons. Never felt safe with some people waliking around the FOB with AKs
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Posted: 8/1/2012 11:39:40 AM
Originally Posted By daemon734:
The best I saw were the MP's in Kandahar that weren't allowed to eat or drink water before 6pm during Ramadan. Im working during Ramadan right now. we're not allowed to let water or food even be visible to them. Can't drink or eat unless we're inside a building where they can't see us. A DoD contractor was arrested off-base the other day because he drank a cup of starbucks outside his hotel. And he'll remain in Kuwaiti holding until Ramadan is over. |
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Posted: 8/6/2012 1:10:05 PM
Originally Posted By ThomasAb:
Originally Posted By daemon734:
The best I saw were the MP's in Kandahar that weren't allowed to eat or drink water before 6pm during Ramadan. Im working during Ramadan right now. we're not allowed to let water or food even be visible to them. Can't drink or eat unless we're inside a building where they can't see us. A DoD contractor was arrested off-base the other day because he drank a cup of starbucks outside his hotel. And he'll remain in Kuwaiti holding until Ramadan is over. That is bullshit. |
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Posted: 8/6/2012 5:18:17 PM
He broke Kuwaiti law while off base and was arrested by Kuwaiti officials? If so how is that bullshit?
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