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Posted: 7/28/2015 2:02:40 PM EDT
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I need to put my QuickBooks stuff on a machine I can access from home, or keep it at home and access it from the office, either or. I would like to be able to rip and store my DVDs and CDs on it maybe as well. I've seen a million different solutions, from Windows server machines to remote desktop to dedicated nas systems. What are your opinions or experiences? Kind of lost in a sea of static on this one. NAS is probably the easiest path for your requirements, depending on storage requirements and budget. I've been tinkering with a QNAP NAS I picked up recently. Pretty impressive set of features and ultimately less expensive than building a new server to replace the one I've been running the last several years. 4x 3TB HD in RAID 10 (5.8TB usable) Active Directory integration Cloud access (Web, smartphone, etc.) Remote management (Web, smartphone, etc.) VPN host RADIUS capability Extensible with vendor and/or custom applications Bunch more that I either forgot about, or don't really have a need for. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 2:08:59 PM EDT
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NAS is probably the easiest path for your requirements, depending on storage requirements and budget. I've been tinkering with a QNAP NAS I picked up recently. Pretty impressive set of features and ultimately less expensive than building a new server to replace the one I've been running the last several years. 4x 3TB HD in RAID 10 (5.8TB usable) Active Directory integration Cloud access (Web, smartphone, etc.) Remote management (Web, smartphone, etc.) VPN host RADIUS capability Extensible with vendor and/or custom applications Bunch more that I either forgot about, or don't really have a need for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I need to put my QuickBooks stuff on a machine I can access from home, or keep it at home and access it from the office, either or. I would like to be able to rip and store my DVDs and CDs on it maybe as well. I've seen a million different solutions, from Windows server machines to remote desktop to dedicated nas systems. What are your opinions or experiences? Kind of lost in a sea of static on this one. NAS is probably the easiest path for your requirements, depending on storage requirements and budget. I've been tinkering with a QNAP NAS I picked up recently. Pretty impressive set of features and ultimately less expensive than building a new server to replace the one I've been running the last several years. 4x 3TB HD in RAID 10 (5.8TB usable) Active Directory integration Cloud access (Web, smartphone, etc.) Remote management (Web, smartphone, etc.) VPN host RADIUS capability Extensible with vendor and/or custom applications Bunch more that I either forgot about, or don't really have a need for. Much wisdom is contained in this post. I likewise use a QNAP, and it does far more than even I need... and I'm a geek with a heterogenous network. It stores my Acronis images (from the windows boxen), and also acts as the network backup for multiple Macs. It serves audio streams to a couple of SlimDevices players, etc. It stores home movies, important documents, etc... and has about 9TB of storage. Also runs an FTP server for some of the CCTV cameras in the house. Not bad for a little toaster-sized box. ETA: and it's small enough to fit in a large gun safe. It keeps the safe warm better than a goldenrod. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 2:15:06 PM EDT
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QuickBooks does not work well on a NAS. When a QB file is in multi-user mode, you have to either have QB file manager server installed on a server or have a workstation with QB installed to be connected to the NAS at all times with the multi-user file manager application running. An annoying thing about that is the user must be logged in at all time for the multi-user manager to keep running.
To further help you, I need you to answer a few questions: What version of Quickbooks? Pro? Premier? Enterprise? How many licenses do you have? How many users are accessing it? How much are you willing to spend on a solution? Would you be willing to pay for a service? |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:05:57 PM EDT
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QuickBooks does not work well on a NAS. When a QB file is in multi-user mode, you have to either have QB file manager server installed on a server or have a workstation with QB installed to be connected to the NAS at all times with the multi-user file manager application running. An annoying thing about that is the user must be logged in at all time for the multi-user manager to keep running. To further help you, I need you to answer a few questions: What version of Quickbooks? Pro? Premier? Enterprise? How many licenses do you have? How many users are accessing it? How much are you willing to spend on a solution? Would you be willing to pay for a service? YES! Exactly. Don't try to network Quickbooks. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:32:35 AM EDT
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Are you using quickbooks for home or business?
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Posted: 7/29/2015 10:40:04 AM EDT
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YES! Exactly. Don't try to network Quickbooks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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QuickBooks does not work well on a NAS. When a QB file is in multi-user mode, you have to either have QB file manager server installed on a server or have a workstation with QB installed to be connected to the NAS at all times with the multi-user file manager application running. An annoying thing about that is the user must be logged in at all time for the multi-user manager to keep running. To further help you, I need you to answer a few questions: What version of Quickbooks? Pro? Premier? Enterprise? How many licenses do you have? How many users are accessing it? How much are you willing to spend on a solution? Would you be willing to pay for a service? YES! Exactly. Don't try to network Quickbooks. You can network Quickbooks just fine. You just have to do it correctly. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 10:44:01 AM EDT
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You can network Quickbooks just fine. You just have to do it correctly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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QuickBooks does not work well on a NAS. When a QB file is in multi-user mode, you have to either have QB file manager server installed on a server or have a workstation with QB installed to be connected to the NAS at all times with the multi-user file manager application running. An annoying thing about that is the user must be logged in at all time for the multi-user manager to keep running. To further help you, I need you to answer a few questions: What version of Quickbooks? Pro? Premier? Enterprise? How many licenses do you have? How many users are accessing it? How much are you willing to spend on a solution? Would you be willing to pay for a service? YES! Exactly. Don't try to network Quickbooks. You can network Quickbooks just fine. You just have to do it correctly. How would you do it? I help out with a small business and I set up a NAS and moved their quickbooks company file over to it. They have two people that use it but never at the same time, so single user mode works just fine for them. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 11:09:10 AM EDT
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How would you do it? I help out with a small business and I set up a NAS and moved their quickbooks company file over to it. They have two people that use it but never at the same time, so single user mode works just fine for them. If it's only one user at at time, oplocks shouldn't be a problem. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 2:37:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:57:49 AM EDT
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Sorry it's been a minute to get back to the thread. Been out sick with heat exhaustion.
Eta: I use a three license copy of QuickBooks. One of my primary problems is it doesn't like to network, and has trouble sharing files from the main office computer where the tickets are scanned in. It sounds like from some of the replies that a storage system might make it worse? Eta to TheGrayman : using it in my safe is a consideration if it can work from home. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:20:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: QuickBooks does not work well on a NAS. When a QB file is in multi-user mode, you have to either have QB file manager server installed on a server or have a workstation with QB installed to be connected to the NAS at all times with the multi-user file manager application running. An annoying thing about that is the user must be logged in at all time for the multi-user manager to keep running. To further help you, I need you to answer a few questions: What version of Quickbooks? Pro? Premier? Enterprise? How many licenses do you have? How many users are accessing it? How much are you willing to spend on a solution? Would you be willing to pay for a service? 3 license copy. I'm trying to get two at once, one in the office, one in the shop, but it has trouble with the shop one from time to time, keeping it up to date with new files from the office. The third copy is for me to take home and work, but that has proven hopeless. After it goes off network, scanned in files never show back up on the office desktop. I have to move them all manually then find them nan reattach them. I don't mind buying some hardware or software that I can benefit from on the back end. I'll not spend another penny with Intuit ever again. If their software can't work on network properly, I have no reason to believe the cloud service they try to sell me will work better. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 6:02:12 PM EDT
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NAS is probably the easiest path for your requirements, depending on storage requirements and budget. I've been tinkering with a QNAP NAS I picked up recently. Pretty impressive set of features and ultimately less expensive than building a new server to replace the one I've been running the last several years. 4x 3TB HD in RAID 10 (5.8TB usable) Active Directory integration Cloud access (Web, smartphone, etc.) Remote management (Web, smartphone, etc.) VPN host RADIUS capability Extensible with vendor and/or custom applications Bunch more that I either forgot about, or don't really have a need for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I need to put my QuickBooks stuff on a machine I can access from home, or keep it at home and access it from the office, either or. I would like to be able to rip and store my DVDs and CDs on it maybe as well. I've seen a million different solutions, from Windows server machines to remote desktop to dedicated nas systems. What are your opinions or experiences? Kind of lost in a sea of static on this one. NAS is probably the easiest path for your requirements, depending on storage requirements and budget. I've been tinkering with a QNAP NAS I picked up recently. Pretty impressive set of features and ultimately less expensive than building a new server to replace the one I've been running the last several years. 4x 3TB HD in RAID 10 (5.8TB usable) Active Directory integration Cloud access (Web, smartphone, etc.) Remote management (Web, smartphone, etc.) VPN host RADIUS capability Extensible with vendor and/or custom applications Bunch more that I either forgot about, or don't really have a need for. What version of QNAP are you using? |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 6:26:21 PM EDT
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What version of QNAP are you using? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I need to put my QuickBooks stuff on a machine I can access from home, or keep it at home and access it from the office, either or. I would like to be able to rip and store my DVDs and CDs on it maybe as well. I've seen a million different solutions, from Windows server machines to remote desktop to dedicated nas systems. What are your opinions or experiences? Kind of lost in a sea of static on this one. NAS is probably the easiest path for your requirements, depending on storage requirements and budget. I've been tinkering with a QNAP NAS I picked up recently. Pretty impressive set of features and ultimately less expensive than building a new server to replace the one I've been running the last several years. 4x 3TB HD in RAID 10 (5.8TB usable) Active Directory integration Cloud access (Web, smartphone, etc.) Remote management (Web, smartphone, etc.) VPN host RADIUS capability Extensible with vendor and/or custom applications Bunch more that I either forgot about, or don't really have a need for. What version of QNAP are you using? Think it's a TS-431+. Was less concerned with the specifics than the fact I picked it up at a decent price. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 3:37:55 PM EDT
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I do a lot of remote QB setups and the only thing I will support for remote access is using remote desktop. Running it on a NAS or a server and trying to open it over say a VPN is a disaster. For multi-user you need the DB manager. How much money are you willing to spend on this? I could tell you how to do this and make it work relatively cheap but it will be less secure but setting up a real remote desktop environment with a gateway will be the most secure but cost far more in licensing.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 4:24:14 PM EDT
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what about putting the qb on Dropbox ? just a random thought
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Posted: 8/1/2015 4:30:09 PM EDT
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I do a lot of remote QB setups and the only thing I will support for remote access is using remote desktop. Running it on a NAS or a server and trying to open it over say a VPN is a disaster. For multi-user you need the DB manager. How much money are you willing to spend on this? I could tell you how to do this and make it work relatively cheap but it will be less secure but setting up a real remote desktop environment with a gateway will be the most secure but cost far more in licensing. Instead of RDP, why not Team Viewer? |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 5:24:47 PM EDT
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Instead of RDP, why not Team Viewer? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do a lot of remote QB setups and the only thing I will support for remote access is using remote desktop. Running it on a NAS or a server and trying to open it over say a VPN is a disaster. For multi-user you need the DB manager. How much money are you willing to spend on this? I could tell you how to do this and make it work relatively cheap but it will be less secure but setting up a real remote desktop environment with a gateway will be the most secure but cost far more in licensing. Instead of RDP, why not Team Viewer? How is the old saying go - "If you have to ask, then you likely won't understand the answer." Partly it has to do with machine and user credentials - this varies between Win7 - Win 8/8.1 and W10. Also audio will come over RD while it usually won't with Team Viewer. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 6:19:16 PM EDT
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A Couple of the NAS I looked at had an onboard VM capability. Pretty slick.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:58:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do a lot of remote QB setups and the only thing I will support for remote access is using remote desktop. Running it on a NAS or a server and trying to open it over say a VPN is a disaster. For multi-user you need the DB manager. How much money are you willing to spend on this? I could tell you how to do this and make it work relatively cheap but it will be less secure but setting up a real remote desktop environment with a gateway will be the most secure but cost far more in licensing. I'm okay with computers and considered a remote desktop, but I don't leave anything on at the office overnight. But with how the thing has been so far I need to do something that doesn't involve carrying a laptop around all day and home at night. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:03:55 AM EDT
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Just spitballing because I don't know;
could I install it on a machine and stick it in the safe at home then use a remote desktop from work and get full functions out of it? On second thought that's a stupid plan because it crashes and locks the computer at least once a week so I'd need a way to restart it from work. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:28:00 PM EDT
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what about putting the qb on Dropbox ? just a random thought Noooo no no no no. Don't do this, especially if accessed in more than one place. It corrupts the shit out of the database. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:28:48 PM EDT
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A Couple of the NAS I looked at had an onboard VM capability. Pretty slick. I in-house build stuff like that. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:31:45 PM EDT
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Just spitballing because I don't know; could I install it on a machine and stick it in the safe at home then use a remote desktop from work and get full functions out of it? On second thought that's a stupid plan because it crashes and locks the computer at least once a week so I'd need a way to restart it from work. I'm guessing you use this for POS as well? |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:33:05 PM EDT
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OP I feel compelled to cite an old saying in my field.
Fast, cheap, or done well. Pick two. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 4:47:45 PM EDT
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Noooo no no no no. Don't do this, especially if accessed in more than one place. It corrupts the shit out of the database. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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what about putting the qb on Dropbox ? just a random thought Noooo no no no no. Don't do this, especially if accessed in more than one place. It corrupts the shit out of the database. might explain why my keepass database got hosed a few months ago. Thanks |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 7:19:46 PM EDT
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might explain why my keepass database got hosed a few months ago. Thanks Quote HistoryQuoted:
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what about putting the qb on Dropbox ? just a random thought Noooo no no no no. Don't do this, especially if accessed in more than one place. It corrupts the shit out of the database. might explain why my keepass database got hosed a few months ago. Thanks When a file in dropbox is open in two different places, DB doesn't know how to reconcile the differences and you get corruption. |
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