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Posted: 12/13/2014 9:21:16 PM EDT
As in the title!
I can get a hell of a deal through my employers for Windows Office. The only problem is that I need Windows 7 or higher..will not work on Vista. So I bought the a full version of Windows 8.1, it will be at my door this coming Tuesday. What should I do to make this as easy as possible................besides not upgrading!!  If it makes and difference, I will be buying an Ipad Air after Christmas. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 9:32:36 PM EDT
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As in the title! I can get a hell of a deal through my employers for Windows Office. The only problem is that I need Windows 7 or higher..will not work on Vista. So I bought the a full version of Windows 8.1, it will be at my door this coming Tuesday. What should I do to make this as easy as possible................besides not upgrading!!
If it makes and difference, I will be buying an Ipad Air after Christmas. You're going from Vista to Windows 8? You're a sucker for punishment! 
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Posted: 12/13/2014 9:38:31 PM EDT
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You're going from Vista to Windows 8? You're a sucker for punishment!
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As in the title! I can get a hell of a deal through my employers for Windows Office. The only problem is that I need Windows 7 or higher..will not work on Vista. So I bought the a full version of Windows 8.1, it will be at my door this coming Tuesday. What should I do to make this as easy as possible................besides not upgrading!!
If it makes and difference, I will be buying an Ipad Air after Christmas. You're going from Vista to Windows 8? You're a sucker for punishment!
ETA: Is it too late to change your order to windows 7? for fucks sake, he'll be fine with 8.1 
OP, just make sure you save all of your important documents to external media (unless you have multiple HDD's in your machine). Also, save yourself some pain and suffering... export your bookmarks from your web browser. That way you'll be able to import them onto your new OS. Understand you will need to reinstall any programs you have. You also may have to install drivers for your system. This could include motherboard, video card, optical drive, etc. If your machine is factory built, you should be able to download the drivers from the manufacturer's website. Do this now, and save them to a flash drive or external HDD so you can load them back on after the clean install. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 9:43:05 PM EDT
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for fucks sake, he'll be fine with 8.1
OP, just make sure you save all of your important documents to external media (unless you have multiple HDD's in your machine). Also, save yourself some pain and suffering... export your bookmarks from your web browser. That way you'll be able to import them onto your new OS. Understand you will need to reinstall any programs you have. You also may have to install drivers for your system. This could include motherboard, video card, optical drive, etc. If your machine is factory built, you should be able to download the drivers from the manufacturer's website. Do this now, and save them to a flash drive or external HDD so you can load them back on after the clean install. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As in the title! I can get a hell of a deal through my employers for Windows Office. The only problem is that I need Windows 7 or higher..will not work on Vista. So I bought the a full version of Windows 8.1, it will be at my door this coming Tuesday. What should I do to make this as easy as possible................besides not upgrading!!
If it makes and difference, I will be buying an Ipad Air after Christmas. You're going from Vista to Windows 8? You're a sucker for punishment!
ETA: Is it too late to change your order to windows 7? for fucks sake, he'll be fine with 8.1
OP, just make sure you save all of your important documents to external media (unless you have multiple HDD's in your machine). Also, save yourself some pain and suffering... export your bookmarks from your web browser. That way you'll be able to import them onto your new OS. Understand you will need to reinstall any programs you have. You also may have to install drivers for your system. This could include motherboard, video card, optical drive, etc. If your machine is factory built, you should be able to download the drivers from the manufacturer's website. Do this now, and save them to a flash drive or external HDD so you can load them back on after the clean install. Sorry OP, I didn't notice it was a tech thread. It's just that Vista and 8 are full of changes only for the sake of change. 7 made Vista tolerable, and I expect 9 will do the same for 8. I just don't get it. 
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Posted: 12/13/2014 9:44:11 PM EDT
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Sorry OP, I didn't notice it was a tech thread. It's just that Vista and 8 are full of changes only for the sake of change. 7 made Vista tolerable, and I expect 9 will do the same for 8. I just don't get it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As in the title! I can get a hell of a deal through my employers for Windows Office. The only problem is that I need Windows 7 or higher..will not work on Vista. So I bought the a full version of Windows 8.1, it will be at my door this coming Tuesday. What should I do to make this as easy as possible................besides not upgrading!!
If it makes and difference, I will be buying an Ipad Air after Christmas. You're going from Vista to Windows 8? You're a sucker for punishment!
ETA: Is it too late to change your order to windows 7? for fucks sake, he'll be fine with 8.1
OP, just make sure you save all of your important documents to external media (unless you have multiple HDD's in your machine). Also, save yourself some pain and suffering... export your bookmarks from your web browser. That way you'll be able to import them onto your new OS. Understand you will need to reinstall any programs you have. You also may have to install drivers for your system. This could include motherboard, video card, optical drive, etc. If your machine is factory built, you should be able to download the drivers from the manufacturer's website. Do this now, and save them to a flash drive or external HDD so you can load them back on after the clean install. Sorry OP, I didn't notice it was a tech thread. It's just that Vista and 8 are full of changes only for the sake of change. 7 made Vista tolerable, and I expect 9 will do the same for 8. I just don't get it. 
eta: ske, Microsoft already announced they are skipping Windows 9 and have released limited test versions of Windows 10. 
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Posted: 12/13/2014 10:01:26 PM EDT
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eta: ske, Microsoft already announced they are skipping Windows 9 and have released limited test versions of Windows 10.
I hadn't heard about the number skip, but I heard that it looks a lot like windows 7. I have several machines with XP, and several with 2003. I can't put it off forever, but I'm holding out as long as I can.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 11:28:43 PM EDT
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I skipped over 7 as I figured if I was going to bite the bullet and get away from Vista, I might as well go all the way!!!
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Posted: 12/13/2014 11:31:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: for fucks sake, he'll be fine with 8.1 OP, just make sure you save all of your important documents to external media (unless you have multiple HDD's in your machine). Also, save yourself some pain and suffering... export your bookmarks from your web browser. That way you'll be able to import them onto your new OS. Understand you will need to reinstall any programs you have. You also may have to install drivers for your system. This could include motherboard, video card, optical drive, etc. If your machine is factory built, you should be able to download the drivers from the manufacturer's website. Do this now, and save them to a flash drive or external HDD so you can load them back on after the clean install. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: As in the title! I can get a hell of a deal through my employers for Windows Office. The only problem is that I need Windows 7 or higher..will not work on Vista. So I bought the a full version of Windows 8.1, it will be at my door this coming Tuesday. What should I do to make this as easy as possible................besides not upgrading!! If it makes and difference, I will be buying an Ipad Air after Christmas. You're going from Vista to Windows 8? You're a sucker for punishment! ETA: Is it too late to change your order to windows 7? for fucks sake, he'll be fine with 8.1 OP, just make sure you save all of your important documents to external media (unless you have multiple HDD's in your machine). Also, save yourself some pain and suffering... export your bookmarks from your web browser. That way you'll be able to import them onto your new OS. Understand you will need to reinstall any programs you have. You also may have to install drivers for your system. This could include motherboard, video card, optical drive, etc. If your machine is factory built, you should be able to download the drivers from the manufacturer's website. Do this now, and save them to a flash drive or external HDD so you can load them back on after the clean install. If all else fails I can give up on computers and go back to guns and boobies!! |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 11:37:19 PM EDT
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Actually, I built this machine about 11 years ago, I am by no means an expert or technoweinie, but I muddle through!! If all else fails I can give up on computers and go back to guns and boobies!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As in the title! I can get a hell of a deal through my employers for Windows Office. The only problem is that I need Windows 7 or higher..will not work on Vista. So I bought the a full version of Windows 8.1, it will be at my door this coming Tuesday. What should I do to make this as easy as possible................besides not upgrading!!
If it makes and difference, I will be buying an Ipad Air after Christmas. You're going from Vista to Windows 8? You're a sucker for punishment!
ETA: Is it too late to change your order to windows 7? for fucks sake, he'll be fine with 8.1
OP, just make sure you save all of your important documents to external media (unless you have multiple HDD's in your machine). Also, save yourself some pain and suffering... export your bookmarks from your web browser. That way you'll be able to import them onto your new OS. Understand you will need to reinstall any programs you have. You also may have to install drivers for your system. This could include motherboard, video card, optical drive, etc. If your machine is factory built, you should be able to download the drivers from the manufacturer's website. Do this now, and save them to a flash drive or external HDD so you can load them back on after the clean install. If all else fails I can give up on computers and go back to guns and boobies!! I hear ya.... the rig I'm on set me back about 35 lap dances 
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Posted: 12/14/2014 6:19:28 PM EDT
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Install "Classic Shell" hasn't been posted yet?
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Posted: 12/14/2014 6:22:20 PM EDT
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Install "Classic Shell" hasn't been posted yet? No, thank god. |
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Posted: 12/14/2014 6:42:12 PM EDT
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Is "Classic Shell" kinda like a Marilyn Monroe dress on honey boo boo?
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Posted: 12/14/2014 6:46:28 PM EDT
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Is "Classic Shell" kinda like a Marilyn Monroe dress on honey boo boo? It's more like training wheels on a Harley Sportser with a lowering kit. All you gotta do is put your feet down. Geesh!!
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Posted: 12/14/2014 7:11:26 PM EDT
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Install "Classic Shell" hasn't been posted yet? No, thank god. I like it. (technically I use Startisback). Even though I can figure out Win 8.1 unlike some people, I prefer to not have my whole screen be taken over by goofy cartoon tiles every time I want to use search or launch a program not in my Quick start bar. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:06:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like it. (technically I use Startisback). Even though I can figure out Win 8.1 unlike some people, I prefer to not have my whole screen be taken over by goofy cartoon tiles every time I want to use search or launch a program not in my Quick start bar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Install "Classic Shell" hasn't been posted yet? No, thank god. I like it. (technically I use Startisback). Even though I can figure out Win 8.1 unlike some people, I prefer to not have my whole screen be taken over by goofy cartoon tiles every time I want to use search or launch a program not in my Quick start bar. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 3:47:30 PM EDT
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8.1 without classic shell isn't that bad. Just a learning curve, same as migrating form any other version of Windows. File structure is the same, it's just getting familiar with the new Statt button environment and corner window shortcuts.
One thing I'm looking forward to in Windows 10 is multiple desktops. That's a feature many linux distros have had for 15 years or so. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 11:41:09 AM EDT
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It should be delivered today, probably after I leave for work {I work 2nd shift}. So tomorrow I should be able to install.
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Posted: 12/16/2014 11:44:46 AM EDT
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I just went from a laptop with Vista to a laptop with 8.1
It hasn't killed me, but it's a big difference. Not sure if I like it or not. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:45:55 PM EDT
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I have Windows 8.1 installed....what a pain in the ass!!..........Had to do a boot from disk because XP and Vista are 2 programs you cannot update from so you do a clean boot.
Had to go through it 3 times before it took and ran on it's own. Doing updates now and then will boot from HD and see how that goes. Just downloaded Firefox and got my bookmarks back in. More updates later!! |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:39:36 PM EDT
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I hadn't heard about the number skip, but I heard that it looks a lot like windows 7. I have several machines with XP, and several with 2003. I can't put it off forever, but I'm holding out as long as I can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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eta: ske, Microsoft already announced they are skipping Windows 9 and have released limited test versions of Windows 10.
I hadn't heard about the number skip, but I heard that it looks a lot like windows 7. I have several machines with XP, and several with 2003. I can't put it off forever, but I'm holding out as long as I can. I hope none of those are in any sort of production environment... |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 8:38:32 PM EDT
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I hadn't heard about the number skip, but I heard that it looks a lot like windows 7. I have several machines with XP, and several with 2003. I can't put it off forever, but I'm holding out as long as I can. I hope none of those are in any sort of production environment... Why not? Just because MS doesn't support them doesn't mean they're going to implode. If you are thinking of vulnerabilities, MS is to viruses and hacks as the police is to preventing crime.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 9:48:01 AM EDT
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Why not? Just because MS doesn't support them doesn't mean they're going to implode. If you are thinking of vulnerabilities, MS is to viruses and hacks as the police is to preventing crime. Interesting example. If you look at a prevention - detection - correction model, preventing an issue saves more time and resources than detecting and correcting it. An unpatched vulnerability is like a gate door on fence with a inoperable lock that no one will bother fixing. While it's possible to install a motion detector or camera, you're only detecting the break-in, and still have to audit what was damaged or stolen. You can increase the intensity to scan for problems, but that will result in using more resources for detecting problems than doing real work. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 11:14:36 AM EDT
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Interesting example. If you look at a prevention - detection - correction model, preventing an issue saves more time and resources than detecting and correcting it. An unpatched vulnerability is like a gate door on fence with a inoperable lock that no one will bother fixing. While it's possible to install a motion detector or camera, you're only detecting the break-in, and still have to audit what was damaged or stolen. You can increase the intensity to scan for problems, but that will result in using more resources for detecting problems than doing real work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Why not? Just because MS doesn't support them doesn't mean they're going to implode. If you are thinking of vulnerabilities, MS is to viruses and hacks as the police is to preventing crime. Interesting example. If you look at a prevention - detection - correction model, preventing an issue saves more time and resources than detecting and correcting it. An unpatched vulnerability is like a gate door on fence with a inoperable lock that no one will bother fixing. While it's possible to install a motion detector or camera, you're only detecting the break-in, and still have to audit what was damaged or stolen. You can increase the intensity to scan for problems, but that will result in using more resources for detecting problems than doing real work. True, but I assume that most of the vulnerabilities are uncovered by hackers, not MS. They are like the police responding to a crime. XP has been around long enough that the big holes have most likely been patched. 7 and 8 are probably a bigger risk than XP at this point. As for "the gate", I have a high degree of confidence in my firewall, and I pay close attention to keeping my machines clean. We have to have some XP machines at work to support some older system, and we've put McAfee Solidcore on them. I'm considering trying it on my servers. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 11:29:50 AM EDT
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Find windows 7 What ever computer you have that came with Vista is slow and old by todays standards and Windows 8.1 is a headache trust me.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 11:48:22 AM EDT
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Find windows 7 What ever computer you have that came with Vista is slow and old by todays standards and Windows 8.1 is a headache trust me. No it's not |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 12:00:44 PM EDT
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YES IT IS!
Nothing is easy to find, there is no all programs folder, How would you even scroll sideways without a touch screen? Task manager looks all kinds of goofy, Things are different, in weird places and that gives me a headache. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 12:38:40 PM EDT
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YES IT IS! Nothing is easy to find, there is no all programs folder, How would you even scroll sideways without a touch screen? Task manager looks all kinds of goofy, Things are different, in weird places and that gives me a headache. Press windows key, go back to desktop mode, use computer normally. Press windows key, type name of program you want, click program to launch it. Not sure what you're trying to scroll sideways. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 12:47:22 PM EDT
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So far so good, got it all installed and running.
Putting in my usual programs. I forgot to put my Itunes on my external hard drive, so I have to put all my music in again unless I can find an easy way to get it off my Iphone and into Itunes. I am finding my way around pretty good....looking for "power management " now. I have to down load the Microsoft Works, so we will see how that goes. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 12:59:40 PM EDT
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I had troubles with an HP commercial box that was an XP machine, vista compatible. I loaded Windows 7 pro on it, new clean install, and it would periodically drop the USB ports. Fairly easy to recover from using a wired mouse or keyboard. I had to go to the systems config, delete all the usb drivers that had the exclamation mark on them, and then let windows search for new hardware and reinstall the drivers. We had to do that every couple weeks. PITA.
The replacement computer has windows 8. I hate it. I know everything is there, but finding it is something else again. The touch screen is loaded with apps we'll never use, I've cleaned up some of them, but I think I'd prefer just having a traditional desktop in front of me. I'll stick with my macbook. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 1:08:42 PM EDT
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Everything seems to working out petty well, the system is quick, and I have had not real issues.
The only thing I notice is the Adobe Flash Players is a little finicky, not sure if it is Firefox or Windows. I am learning my way around, don't like the Windows 8.1 Games set up, trying to find regular old Solitaire and all I find is Klondike, 3 Peaks and other variations...no big deal. I am very happy, so far. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 3:24:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everything seems to working out petty well, the system is quick, and I have had not real issues. The only thing I notice is the Adobe Flash Players is a little finicky, not sure if it is Firefox or Windows. I am learning my way around, don't like the Windows 8.1 Games set up, trying to find regular old Solitaire and all I find is Klondike, 3 Peaks and other variations...no big deal. I am very happy, so far. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:51:41 PM EDT
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Why not? Just because MS doesn't support them doesn't mean they're going to implode. If you are thinking of vulnerabilities, MS is to viruses and hacks as the police is to preventing crime.
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I hadn't heard about the number skip, but I heard that it looks a lot like windows 7. I have several machines with XP, and several with 2003. I can't put it off forever, but I'm holding out as long as I can. I hope none of those are in any sort of production environment... Why not? Just because MS doesn't support them doesn't mean they're going to implode. If you are thinking of vulnerabilities, MS is to viruses and hacks as the police is to preventing crime.
I hope you're not governed by any sort of of compliance. |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 3:05:49 PM EDT
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One more little thing.....when I open a new tab, it opens to Yahoo instead of my home page..........how do I fix that, any guesses?
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Posted: 12/22/2014 5:35:47 PM EDT
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One more little thing.....when I open a new tab, it opens to Yahoo instead of my home page..........how do I fix that, any guesses? Tab in what? |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 7:14:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tab in what? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: One more little thing.....when I open a new tab, it opens to Yahoo instead of my home page..........how do I fix that, any guesses? Tab in what? |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 7:19:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/23/2014 4:01:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: YES IT IS! Nothing is easy to find, there is no all programs folder, How would you even scroll sideways without a touch screen? Task manager looks all kinds of goofy, Things are different, in weird places and that gives me a headache. LOL. N00B. 8.1 desktop is best desktop Push windows key + X and tell me what you see. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 8:44:08 PM EDT
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I have several machines with XP, and several with 2003. I can't put it off forever, but I'm holding out as long as I can. I hope none of those are in any sort of production environment... When I worked at MSN we ran out of exceptions for staying on SQL Server 2000 in 2007 or so and had to upgrade to pre-release 2008 in one step. What a pain. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:13:49 AM EDT
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I have several machines with XP, and several with 2003. I can't put it off forever, but I'm holding out as long as I can. I hope none of those are in any sort of production environment... They are quite safe, I assure you. Anyway, like I said, XP is probably much less at risk that win7 |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 4:54:16 AM EDT
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It's more like training wheels on a Harley Sportser with a lowering kit. All you gotta do is put your feet down. Geesh!!
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Is "Classic Shell" kinda like a Marilyn Monroe dress on honey boo boo? It's more like training wheels on a Harley Sportser with a lowering kit. All you gotta do is put your feet down. Geesh!!
? Classic shell is a great tool to fix the ui mistake MS made with windows 8. I like windows 8, it's what I run on the one windows PC in my house, but the start screen thing isn't a good design choice for a desktop and hides a great deal of necessary function from the user - which classic shell restores. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 4:55:58 AM EDT
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8.1 without classic shell isn't that bad. Just a learning curve, same as migrating form any other version of Windows. File structure is the same, it's just getting familiar with the new Statt button environment and corner window shortcuts. One thing I'm looking forward to in Windows 10 is multiple desktops. That's a feature many linux distros have had for 15 years or so. Linux distros?? Most(all?) of the Unix windowing environments have had multiple desktops since before linux was even dreamed up. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 4:56:37 AM EDT
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Why not? Just because MS doesn't support them doesn't mean they're going to implode. If you are thinking of vulnerabilities, MS is to viruses and hacks as the police is to preventing crime.
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I hadn't heard about the number skip, but I heard that it looks a lot like windows 7. I have several machines with XP, and several with 2003. I can't put it off forever, but I'm holding out as long as I can. I hope none of those are in any sort of production environment... Why not? Just because MS doesn't support them doesn't mean they're going to implode. If you are thinking of vulnerabilities, MS is to viruses and hacks as the police is to preventing crime.
Lol Dear god. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 4:57:16 AM EDT
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YES IT IS! Nothing is easy to find, there is no all programs folder, How would you even scroll sideways without a touch screen? Task manager looks all kinds of goofy, Things are different, in weird places and that gives me a headache. Lol |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 4:59:08 AM EDT
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I had troubles with an HP commercial box that was an XP machine, vista compatible. I loaded Windows 7 pro on it, new clean install, and it would periodically drop the USB ports. Fairly easy to recover from using a wired mouse or keyboard. I had to go to the systems config, delete all the usb drivers that had the exclamation mark on them, and then let windows search for new hardware and reinstall the drivers. We had to do that every couple weeks. PITA. The replacement computer has windows 8. I hate it. I know everything is there, but finding it is something else again. The touch screen is loaded with apps we'll never use, I've cleaned up some of them, but I think I'd prefer just having a traditional desktop in front of me. I'll stick with my macbook. Just install classic shell- it will seriously make your windows 8 machine look just like windows 7. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 5:00:58 AM EDT
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I have several machines with XP, and several with 2003. I can't put it off forever, but I'm holding out as long as I can. I hope none of those are in any sort of production environment... They are quite safe, I assure you. Anyway, like I said, XP is probably much less at risk that win7 That's one of the most absurd assertions I have ever seen on this site. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 8:52:55 AM EDT
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I had troubles with an HP commercial box that was an XP machine, vista compatible. I loaded Windows 7 pro on it, new clean install, and it would periodically drop the USB ports. Fairly easy to recover from using a wired mouse or keyboard. I had to go to the systems config, delete all the usb drivers that had the exclamation mark on them, and then let windows search for new hardware and reinstall the drivers. We had to do that every couple weeks. PITA. The replacement computer has windows 8. I hate it. I know everything is there, but finding it is something else again. The touch screen is loaded with apps we'll never use, I've cleaned up some of them, but I think I'd prefer just having a traditional desktop in front of me. I'll stick with my macbook. Just install classic shell- it will seriously make your windows 8 machine look just like windows 7. You can spray paint your tower and keyboard beige too... |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 8:55:12 AM EDT
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? Classic shell is a great tool to fix the ui mistake MS made with windows 8. I like windows 8, it's what I run on the one windows PC in my house, but the start screen thing isn't a good design choice for a desktop and hides a great deal of necessary function from the user - which classic shell restores. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is "Classic Shell" kinda like a Marilyn Monroe dress on honey boo boo? It's more like training wheels on a Harley Sportser with a lowering kit. All you gotta do is put your feet down. Geesh!!
? Classic shell is a great tool to fix the ui mistake MS made with windows 8. I like windows 8, it's what I run on the one windows PC in my house, but the start screen thing isn't a good design choice for a desktop and hides a great deal of necessary function from the user - which classic shell restores. It's all there and better, unless the user is the "press button, receive cookie" type which I admit are many. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 10:03:39 AM EDT
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That's one of the most absurd assertions I have ever seen on this site. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have several machines with XP, and several with 2003. I can't put it off forever, but I'm holding out as long as I can. I hope none of those are in any sort of production environment... They are quite safe, I assure you. Anyway, like I said, XP is probably much less at risk that win7 That's one of the most absurd assertions I have ever seen on this site. This is a discussion site. I'd be happy to discuss it, but apparently all you know is LOL. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 10:11:39 AM EDT
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I have several machines with XP, and several with 2003. I can't put it off forever, but I'm holding out as long as I can. I hope none of those are in any sort of production environment... They are quite safe, I assure you. Anyway, like I said, XP is probably much less at risk that win7 That's one of the most absurd assertions I have ever seen on this site. This is a discussion site. I'd be happy to discuss it, but apparently all you know is LOL. What is there to discuss? You believe, against all IT best practices and all advice to the contrary, including from the manufacturer who EOL the software, that it is more secure than the currently being updated software on the market. If you worked for me I would throw you out on your ear, because your IT "knowledge" is a complete failure. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 10:12:34 AM EDT
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Linux distros?? Most(all?) of the Unix windowing environments have had multiple desktops since before linux was even dreamed up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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8.1 without classic shell isn't that bad. Just a learning curve, same as migrating form any other version of Windows. File structure is the same, it's just getting familiar with the new Statt button environment and corner window shortcuts. One thing I'm looking forward to in Windows 10 is multiple desktops. That's a feature many linux distros have had for 15 years or so. Linux distros?? Most(all?) of the Unix windowing environments have had multiple desktops since before linux was even dreamed up. That's nice to know. It further proves how far behind Windows is behind the times on adapting a nice feature. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 10:18:43 AM EDT
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It's all there and better, unless the user is the "press button, receive cookie" type which I admit are many. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is "Classic Shell" kinda like a Marilyn Monroe dress on honey boo boo? It's more like training wheels on a Harley Sportser with a lowering kit. All you gotta do is put your feet down. Geesh!!
? Classic shell is a great tool to fix the ui mistake MS made with windows 8. I like windows 8, it's what I run on the one windows PC in my house, but the start screen thing isn't a good design choice for a desktop and hides a great deal of necessary function from the user - which classic shell restores. It's all there and better, unless the user is the "press button, receive cookie" type which I admit are many. No, it really isn't. The ui in 8 is inefficient at best for anything that is not a tablet. There are probably ways to improve on the start menu, but they didn't figure it out in 8. |
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