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Posted: 2/23/2017 12:54:40 AM EDT
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Sounds like an unfair advantage... I'll allow it! The real question is, did you bring a drone? That brings another question. Is drone use to be permitted? For unlimited, I couldn't see why not. Plus it'll be interesting to see what Fred comes up with. |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 3:33:57 AM EDT
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I'm up for natural, but I'm not sure if my film camera has EXIF data attached with a photo.
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Posted: 2/23/2017 3:46:49 AM EDT
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I'm up for natural, but I'm not sure if my film camera has EXIF data attached with a photo. Short of one of those weird almost hybrid cameras in the mid/late 2000's, I don't think any do. *shrug* write down your exposure settings and film type? |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 4:56:19 AM EDT
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I'll buy a foam board from the dollar store and put the date in.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 3:07:56 PM EDT
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I am excited for this!
Here are a few past selfies, enjoy   
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Posted: 2/25/2017 3:41:40 AM EDT
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I'm in
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Posted: 2/26/2017 4:11:28 AM EDT
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I'll buy a foam board from the dollar store and put the date in. Do you develop your own film? Just take a marker shot before you start shooting and post a photo of the film strip? |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 4:11:46 AM EDT
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I'm in Sweet! |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 4:34:04 AM EDT
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I have an idea for my unlimited one, but have to get feeling a bit better first. Gotta clean up my bedroom to make room to set up the lights where I'd need them. It's already pretty clean, but I'd need to move a table and some other stuff.
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Posted: 2/28/2017 10:07:31 AM EDT
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If I get time I'll be in
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Posted: 2/28/2017 2:44:22 PM EDT
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Question. Are these supposed to be single-frame shots only? No pano? No stacking? No HDR?
Just want to know what I have to work with. Any multi-frame shot I might consider would all be taken at the same time, and wouldn't involve any photoshop chicanery other than stacking or panoramas |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 3:03:54 PM EDT
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Question. Are these supposed to be single-frame shots only? No pano? No stacking? No HDR? Just want to know what I have to work with. Any multi-frame shot I might consider would all be taken at the same time, and wouldn't involve any photoshop chicanery other than stacking or panoramas I'm quite curious how you'd brenizer yourself. I'm just guessing that's what you had in mind
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Posted: 2/28/2017 4:44:50 PM EDT
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I'm quite curious how you'd brenizer yourself. I'm just guessing that's what you had in mind<img src="http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif" /> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question. Are these supposed to be single-frame shots only? No pano? No stacking? No HDR? Just want to know what I have to work with. Any multi-frame shot I might consider would all be taken at the same time, and wouldn't involve any photoshop chicanery other than stacking or panoramas I'm quite curious how you'd brenizer yourself. I'm just guessing that's what you had in mind<img src="http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif" /> I'm Curious as well... For the sake of the contest, id say just submit all of the frames or a shot of the rough composite. The spirit of the rule here is to just make sure you don't gram your favorite sunset shot and chop yourself into it. You need to actually be in the scene. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 5:19:30 PM EDT
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I'm in.
Sounds like fun. Let's get creative. |
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Posted: 2/28/2017 6:13:36 PM EDT
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Question. Are these supposed to be single-frame shots only? No pano? No stacking? No HDR? Just want to know what I have to work with. Any multi-frame shot I might consider would all be taken at the same time, and wouldn't involve any photoshop chicanery other than stacking or panoramas I swear, if your portrait looks like the cover for Bohemian Rhapsody due to double/quad exposures... Then again, he'd have to arf it up with a horse mask or T-Rex suit.
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Posted: 2/28/2017 7:01:15 PM EDT
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I swear, if your portrait looks like the cover for Bohemian Rhapsody due to double/quad exposures... Then again, he'd have to arf it up with a horse mask or T-Rex suit.
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/4B19/production/_86352291_bohemianrhapsody.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question. Are these supposed to be single-frame shots only? No pano? No stacking? No HDR? Just want to know what I have to work with. Any multi-frame shot I might consider would all be taken at the same time, and wouldn't involve any photoshop chicanery other than stacking or panoramas I swear, if your portrait looks like the cover for Bohemian Rhapsody due to double/quad exposures... Then again, he'd have to arf it up with a horse mask or T-Rex suit.
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/4B19/production/_86352291_bohemianrhapsody.jpg I'm going to do that picture with no shenanigans. |
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Posted: 3/1/2017 8:26:26 AM EDT
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How and when do we submit entries?
This one doesn't count because it was taken about a month ago, but if something comes up, I might have an entry. ... And, trying to stand perfectly still for the full 20-30 second exposure is pretty hard. 
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Posted: 3/1/2017 11:40:07 AM EDT
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I think we need to define what type of picture is acceptable/necessary/desired here.
My initial call for a contest (in NorthPolar's thread) was for a selfie portrait. Selfie is self explanatory. Portrait might not be. There are a lot of definitions of portrait, and we could argue them all day, but the generally accepted definition of portrait is a photograph or painting of an individual that primarily features the head/neck/shoulders/upper body and emphasizes their expression. If a do a google image search for "portrait" you'll get a very accurate representation of what a portrait truly is: 
But I think we just need to be clear on what our objective is |
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Posted: 3/1/2017 1:52:17 PM EDT
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I think we need to define what type of picture is acceptable/necessary/desired here. My initial call for a contest (in NorthPolar's thread) was for a selfie portrait. Selfie is self explanatory. Portrait might not be. There are a lot of definitions of portrait, and we could argue them all day, but the generally accepted definition of portrait is a photograph or painting of an individual that primarily features the head/neck/shoulders/upper body and emphasizes their expression. If a do a google image search for "portrait" you'll get a very accurate representation of what a portrait truly is: http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/Gatordonald/Arfjunk/Screen%20Shot%202017-03-01%20at%208.37.38%20AM_zpsfrbltqyc.png But I think we just need to be clear on what our objective is A selfie is a self-portrait. A portrait/self-portrait can be full body and also include environment. It might technically be called an environmental portrait, but it is still a portrait. |
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Posted: 3/1/2017 2:54:22 PM EDT
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A selfie is a self-portrait. A portrait/self-portrait can be full body and also include environment. It might technically be called an environmental portrait, but it is still a portrait. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think we need to define what type of picture is acceptable/necessary/desired here. My initial call for a contest (in NorthPolar's thread) was for a selfie portrait. Selfie is self explanatory. Portrait might not be. There are a lot of definitions of portrait, and we could argue them all day, but the generally accepted definition of portrait is a photograph or painting of an individual that primarily features the head/neck/shoulders/upper body and emphasizes their expression. If a do a google image search for "portrait" you'll get a very accurate representation of what a portrait truly is: http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/Gatordonald/Arfjunk/Screen%20Shot%202017-03-01%20at%208.37.38%20AM_zpsfrbltqyc.png But I think we just need to be clear on what our objective is A selfie is a self-portrait. A portrait/self-portrait can be full body and also include environment. It might technically be called an environmental portrait, but it is still a portrait. Personally, I agree with NoVaGator in the sense that a portrait is a more intimate shot. It should definitely not lose the subject to its surroundings in the photo. I would like to see this go the more traditional route as well. The subject should fill the majority of the frame and be the obvious focus of the shot. When I have a client I typically take three shots as a part of the portrait session. One full length, one tighter (waist up or so) and one tight traditional portrait. Like this. 
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:34:34 PM EDT
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I think the key for an environmental portrait is that the environment needs to be additive to the "story" of the subject, rather than just additional visuals that let your eye wander.
For example, Dupemaster's pic above, I assume there's something "urban" about that girl that the scene is intentionally evoking. A rooftop urban scene wouldn't make sense for an environmental portrait of a farmer any more than a bucolic rural scene would make sense for an environmental portrait of a securities trader. just my $0.02 Here are great examples: (none of these are mine) 
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Posted: 3/3/2017 9:29:19 PM EDT
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Taking a selfie , is that different from giving a selfie?
Don't mind me... I've been drinking 
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Posted: 3/4/2017 8:23:20 AM EDT
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OK, here's my submission for the open class. Thought I could use it for the limited class, but I'm really using two lights.
Shot from tripod with remote, light source is the headlights from the rented Ford Explorer. I fully expected to see a tyrannosaurus come crashing out of the woods at any moment. Taken near Paauilo, Big Island, Hawaii, March 3, 2017. Note the EXIF says 11 pm on the 2nd; I hadn't set my camera for local time, so it was really at 5 am on the 3rd. 24mm, 1.6 sec, f/5.6, ISO 400. Do I get extra credit for wearing my ARF visor?  Midnight On The Road Of Good And Evil FS by FredMan, on Flickr
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Posted: 3/4/2017 8:37:34 AM EDT
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And here's my Natural entry. Kiluaea caldera, HI.
Couldn;t quite get the lava and myself in focus, but f/22 is as small as the aperture gets on the 24-120. Seeing as how the distance to me was about 20 feet, and thr distance to the lava was about 1,000 feet, I think it came out OK. 120mm, f/22, 0.3 sec, ISO 400.  FS Kilauea Caldera by FredMan, on Flickr
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Posted: 3/4/2017 3:20:33 PM EDT
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How and when do we submit entries? This one doesn't count because it was taken about a month ago, but if something comes up, I might have an entry. ... And, trying to stand perfectly still for the full 20-30 second exposure is pretty hard. http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z362/0471861731/DSC_6819Az_zpszuah6zcr.jpg Updated OP with that info at the top. |
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Posted: 3/4/2017 8:08:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2017 8:20:21 PM EDT
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Should this be my natural entry? Not sure... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24268/dupemaster-Natural-small-1-158978.JPG that's pretty good! |
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Posted: 3/5/2017 1:05:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2017 1:16:21 AM EDT
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Balls. I guess this means that I have to get off my ass, huh.
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Posted: 3/5/2017 2:54:40 AM EDT
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Balls. I guess this means that I have to get off my ass, huh. Probably. That Ensign is a pretty cool camera. I'm gonna be playing to keep it! |
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Posted: 3/5/2017 2:56:52 AM EDT
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https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/564/33128192341_2973cda116_c.jpg Took this picture before I realized that what was desired was a concentrated, focused picture of a person's physical features. Oh, what the hell, posting this anyways. This place is a favorite of mine because no one goes to the place. I was hesitant to travel on the dirt road to get here when I drove a Camry, but I got a new car, so voila. It's cool. Although I agree that a portrait is traditionally a tighter shot, a self portrait is up to the one taking the photo. |
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Posted: 3/5/2017 2:57:52 AM EDT
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OK, here's my submission for the open class. Thought I could use it for the limited class, but I'm really using two lights. Shot from tripod with remote, light source is the headlights from the rented Ford Explorer. I fully expected to see a tyrannosaurus come crashing out of the woods at any moment. Taken near Paauilo, Big Island, Hawaii, March 3, 2017. Note the EXIF says 11 pm on the 2nd; I hadn't set my camera for local time, so it was really at 5 am on the 3rd. 24mm, 1.6 sec, f/5.6, ISO 400. Do I get extra credit for wearing my ARF visor? Midnight On The Road Of Good And Evil FS by FredMan, on Flickr Thats pretty sweet! |
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Posted: 3/5/2017 2:59:25 AM EDT
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Should this be my natural entry? Not sure... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24268/dupemaster-Natural-small-1-158978.JPG that's pretty good! Thanks! That was the last shot of the set and I did a quick edit while having breakfast with my son this morning. I'm going through the set now and see a couple I like more. I'll keep the final entry quiet till the end. |
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Posted: 3/5/2017 3:00:26 AM EDT
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Probably. That Ensign is a pretty cool camera. I'm gonna be playing to keep it! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Balls. I guess this means that I have to get off my ass, huh. Probably. That Ensign is a pretty cool camera. I'm gonna be playing to keep it! My main idea is a no go, as I don't have anyone to back me up doing it. I was going to try to recreate this shot from earlier in the year, just with better fill lighting, etc.  Will have to see if I can convince one of the HTF guys to buddy me at the range. (bunch of weird folks there at night, so I don't go there unless it's a group)
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Posted: 3/5/2017 12:19:52 PM EDT
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These are good suggestions. I would take it from natural light to maybe a one light limit, this way the guys who only have one light don't feel completely outgunned it the unlimited category. That or just adding a third category so we have our bases covered. (production/limited/open). So far we'd be looking at: Two categories. (limited/unlimited) Judging on both out of camera (color corrected) and processing. Originality Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We *could* have a 2-pic contest... one "unlimited" and one natural light I would also propose the following: a before/after retouch component. "Before" could include global LR/PS adjustments but no local adjustments. "After" would include a normal portrait retouch. These are good suggestions. I would take it from natural light to maybe a one light limit, this way the guys who only have one light don't feel completely outgunned it the unlimited category. That or just adding a third category so we have our bases covered. (production/limited/open). So far we'd be looking at: Two categories. (limited/unlimited) Judging on both out of camera (color corrected) and processing. Originality Are the items in red officially part of the rules? My specific Q is on the second item: out of camera (color corrected) Does this mean that color correcting is an acceptable tweak to an out-of-camera entry? My normal workflow is to apply a lens profile correction and a custom color profile correction to all images. (A standard Color Passport workflow) If you're not working with a correction card, then your color correction would be limited to temp and tint. But "color corrected" does not include exposure, contrast, highlight, shadows, whites, blacks, clarity, vibrance, saturation. Right? |
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Posted: 3/5/2017 3:02:48 PM EDT
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Are the items in red officially part of the rules? My specific Q is on the second item: out of camera (color corrected) Does this mean that color correcting is an acceptable tweak to an out-of-camera entry? My normal workflow is to apply a lens profile correction and a custom color profile correction to all images. (A standard Color Passport workflow) If you're not working with a correction card, then your color correction would be limited to temp and tint. But "color corrected" does not include exposure, contrast, highlight, shadows, whites, blacks, clarity, vibrance, saturation. Right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We *could* have a 2-pic contest... one "unlimited" and one natural light I would also propose the following: a before/after retouch component. "Before" could include global LR/PS adjustments but no local adjustments. "After" would include a normal portrait retouch. These are good suggestions. I would take it from natural light to maybe a one light limit, this way the guys who only have one light don't feel completely outgunned it the unlimited category. That or just adding a third category so we have our bases covered. (production/limited/open). So far we'd be looking at: Two categories. (limited/unlimited) Judging on both out of camera (color corrected) and processing. Originality Are the items in red officially part of the rules? My specific Q is on the second item: out of camera (color corrected) Does this mean that color correcting is an acceptable tweak to an out-of-camera entry? My normal workflow is to apply a lens profile correction and a custom color profile correction to all images. (A standard Color Passport workflow) If you're not working with a correction card, then your color correction would be limited to temp and tint. But "color corrected" does not include exposure, contrast, highlight, shadows, whites, blacks, clarity, vibrance, saturation. Right? I'm thinking just standard color temp and tint is ok. Any more and it's hard to call it "out of camera" I just think it would be cool to see what people can do with the editing process. |
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Posted: 3/5/2017 8:47:40 PM EDT
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I'll submit this one for the natural lighting category.
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Posted: 3/6/2017 10:36:27 PM EDT
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Should this be my natural entry? Not sure... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24268/dupemaster-Natural-small-1-158978.JPG
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Posted: 3/7/2017 7:44:51 AM EDT
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I'll submit this one for the natural lighting category. http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z362/0471861731/_DSC6905Az_zpskxy5t0sf.jpg
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Posted: 3/7/2017 5:49:59 PM EDT
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Edward Snowden?
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Posted: 3/7/2017 11:36:04 PM EDT
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And here's my Limited entry. Big shout out to Petzl Corporation for providing the light source.
Know how hard it is to stand still for 15 seconds? This hard!  Mauna Kea Sunrise FS by FredMan, on Flickr
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Posted: 3/9/2017 2:39:57 AM EDT
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Depends. Are you concealing the remote trigger in one of your hands with those crossed arms? If so, then I say yes ... because that's exactly what I'm doing in mine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should this be my natural entry? Not sure... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24268/dupemaster-Natural-small-1-158978.JPG Nah, I was using the timer and running back and forth. It was snowing and there was about an inch of snow on the ground. That slushy, slipery kind of snow. Standing on a slant, there were a couple of near falls. |
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Posted: 3/9/2017 10:23:34 PM EDT
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ENTRANCE UPDATE: For PERSEC and to have the highest posable resolution for those who will need to pixel peep, I'll create a passworded page on my site to host the photos. EMAIL me the photos and I'll post them up and send you the link and password. NAME YOUR PHOTO with your username and what category it is IE: DUPEMASTER Natural or DUPEMASTER Limited. Is this required? I can resubmit mine at full resolution. How about PMing me your email? |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 6:08:15 AM EDT
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Is this required? I can resubmit mine at full resolution. How about PMing me your email? I guess I can't really make it required, but it'd be a lot easier if everyone did so that the photos can all be in one place for judging. PM sent. |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 6:38:49 AM EDT
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So I may or may not have a submission for this. It has kind of been an insane week, plus gearing up for a weekend project. Will try to take some today if possible.
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Posted: 3/10/2017 8:03:12 AM EDT
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So I may or may not have a submission for this. It has kind of been an insane week, plus gearing up for a weekend project. Will try to take some today if possible. Pretty much this for me as well. Been super busy the last week. |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 2:54:51 PM EDT
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Looks like we need to extend this by a few days
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Posted: 3/10/2017 4:49:13 PM EDT
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You bastards could have told me this before I stayed up till 2:30 shooting my Open shot.
How long do we need? Till Wednesday work for you? |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 5:58:38 PM EDT
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You bastards could have told me this before I stayed up till 2:30 shooting my Open shot.
How long do we need? Till Wednesday work for you? I will try but no promises. I just moved into a new place. In a foreign country as well so lots of work going on here. |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 12:54:12 AM EDT
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I will try but no promises. I just moved into a new place. In a foreign country as well so lots of work going on here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You bastards could have told me this before I stayed up till 2:30 shooting my Open shot.
How long do we need? Till Wednesday work for you? I will try but no promises. I just moved into a new place. In a foreign country as well so lots of work going on here. Give me a date, I'm sure no one objects to stretching it out a bit. |
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