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Posted: 6/27/2012 7:53:40 PM
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Posted: 6/27/2012 9:50:08 PM
[Last Edit: 6/27/2012 10:05:08 PM by Matthew_Q]
Wide angle. You do want.
Something that will do 10mm-20-ish. I was just out at the Grand Canyon, and I wish I had rented or bought that Tamron 10-24mm that I want. BTW, look into the Magic Lantern firmware add-on. I'd want to take a tripod and mess with bracketing to do some HDR. Magic Lantern adds quite a few options, although I do think the T3i may need to be flashed back a revision in firmware for it to work. |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 11:28:51 PM
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Wide angle. You do want. Something that will do 10mm-20-ish. I was just out at the Grand Canyon, and I wish I had rented or bought that Tamron 10-24mm that I want. BTW, look into the Magic Lantern firmware add-on. I'd want to take a tripod and mess with bracketing to do some HDR. Magic Lantern adds quite a few options, although I do think the T3i may need to be flashed back a revision in firmware for it to work. Ok. Ill see what I can find. I plan on lugging my tripod around with my pack the whole time. I found two sites. Still trying to see if I can find something local in or around Fresno which is where our arrival and depart are from. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 3:48:04 AM
Originally Posted By 4DAIVIPAI2K5:
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Wide angle. You do want. Something that will do 10mm-20-ish. I was just out at the Grand Canyon, and I wish I had rented or bought that Tamron 10-24mm that I want. BTW, look into the Magic Lantern firmware add-on. I'd want to take a tripod and mess with bracketing to do some HDR. Magic Lantern adds quite a few options, although I do think the T3i may need to be flashed back a revision in firmware for it to work. Ok. Ill see what I can find. I plan on lugging my tripod around with my pack the whole time. I found two sites. Still trying to see if I can find something local in or around Fresno which is where our arrival and depart are from. Have you played with any HDR? It's pretty slick some of the effects you can come out with. Take plenty of memory, and any time you're shooting scenery always use RAW (I use RAW + jpeg). The stock firmware should let you bracket three shots. The wider the exposure gaps, the better HDR can come out, so do 1.5-2 full stops between exposure values. Keep it on aperture priority, so that only the shutter speed is varied (same aperture won't change depth of focus). Magic Lantern lets you expand bracketing to up to 9 exposures (IIRC) and anywhere from 1/3 to 5 stops between exposures. There are some other neat features in the firmware that I use from time to time. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 3:18:02 PM
[Last Edit: 6/28/2012 3:18:35 PM by 4DAIVIPAI2K5]
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Originally Posted By 4DAIVIPAI2K5:
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Wide angle. You do want. Something that will do 10mm-20-ish. I was just out at the Grand Canyon, and I wish I had rented or bought that Tamron 10-24mm that I want. BTW, look into the Magic Lantern firmware add-on. I'd want to take a tripod and mess with bracketing to do some HDR. Magic Lantern adds quite a few options, although I do think the T3i may need to be flashed back a revision in firmware for it to work. Ok. Ill see what I can find. I plan on lugging my tripod around with my pack the whole time. I found two sites. Still trying to see if I can find something local in or around Fresno which is where our arrival and depart are from. Have you played with any HDR? It's pretty slick some of the effects you can come out with. Take plenty of memory, and any time you're shooting scenery always use RAW (I use RAW + jpeg). The stock firmware should let you bracket three shots. The wider the exposure gaps, the better HDR can come out, so do 1.5-2 full stops between exposure values. Keep it on aperture priority, so that only the shutter speed is varied (same aperture won't change depth of focus). Magic Lantern lets you expand bracketing to up to 9 exposures (IIRC) and anywhere from 1/3 to 5 stops between exposures. There are some other neat features in the firmware that I use from time to time. I have no idea what you just said to me. lol |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 4:37:51 PM
Originally Posted By 4DAIVIPAI2K5:
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Originally Posted By 4DAIVIPAI2K5:
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Wide angle. You do want. Something that will do 10mm-20-ish. I was just out at the Grand Canyon, and I wish I had rented or bought that Tamron 10-24mm that I want. BTW, look into the Magic Lantern firmware add-on. I'd want to take a tripod and mess with bracketing to do some HDR. Magic Lantern adds quite a few options, although I do think the T3i may need to be flashed back a revision in firmware for it to work. Ok. Ill see what I can find. I plan on lugging my tripod around with my pack the whole time. I found two sites. Still trying to see if I can find something local in or around Fresno which is where our arrival and depart are from. Have you played with any HDR? It's pretty slick some of the effects you can come out with. Take plenty of memory, and any time you're shooting scenery always use RAW (I use RAW + jpeg). The stock firmware should let you bracket three shots. The wider the exposure gaps, the better HDR can come out, so do 1.5-2 full stops between exposure values. Keep it on aperture priority, so that only the shutter speed is varied (same aperture won't change depth of focus). Magic Lantern lets you expand bracketing to up to 9 exposures (IIRC) and anywhere from 1/3 to 5 stops between exposures. There are some other neat features in the firmware that I use from time to time. I have no idea what you just said to me. lol Go here and read up. Magic Lantern is a firmware add-on that you install on your SD card(s) that adds extended controls over settings in your camera. Bracketing is when you take several shots at different exposure levels. Originally it was intended to give you several shots to choose from if you are having a hard time picking an exposure level. Then there was this new thing called HDR - High Dynamic Range - which can kinda mesh together multiple images at different exposure levels. It uses the over exposed (bright) pictures to bring out the shadows and dark areas, and then uses the dark areas to tone down the very bright areas. The effect can be pretty mild, but it can also be pretty WILD! Google it and you'll see what it can do. Anyway, HDR can work better with more exposures and more differences in exposure levels. Since the camera only gives you three shots, and you might want more, Magic Lantern lets you go up to 9 exposures. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 4:39:50 PM
Thanks for the info. Im putting my reading cap on!
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Posted: 6/28/2012 9:03:29 PM
Another vote for the wide lenses, spend the extra to rent "L" glass.
I have no affiliation with this site but it's what I found. Borrow Lenses I'd probably spring for the 17-40 f/4L and quite possibly the 8-15 f/4L fisheye. With the lenses you've got you'd have most things covered. IMHO the fisheye would give you some amazing vistas with that kind of scenery. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 11:27:30 PM
I was that site and one other.
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Posted: 6/29/2012 4:56:55 AM
Originally Posted By zercool:
Another vote for the wide lenses, spend the extra to rent "L" glass. I have no affiliation with this site but it's what I found. Borrow Lenses I'd probably spring for the 17-40 f/4L and quite possibly the 8-15 f/4L fisheye. With the lenses you've got you'd have most things covered. IMHO the fisheye would give you some amazing vistas with that kind of scenery. Well, the 17-40mm on his T3i (crop frame / APS-C sensor) won't get him much wider, although the quality should be much better than the 18-55mm kit lens. The 8-15mm might be good, but I hate fisheye... OP might not. |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 9:34:32 AM
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Originally Posted By zercool:
Another vote for the wide lenses, spend the extra to rent "L" glass. I have no affiliation with this site but it's what I found. Borrow Lenses I'd probably spring for the 17-40 f/4L and quite possibly the 8-15 f/4L fisheye. With the lenses you've got you'd have most things covered. IMHO the fisheye would give you some amazing vistas with that kind of scenery. Well, the 17-40mm on his T3i (crop frame / APS-C sensor) won't get him much wider, although the quality should be much better than the 18-55mm kit lens. The 8-15mm might be good, but I hate fisheye... OP might not. Yeah, the fisheye is a love/hate thing. I think it works in some places and not so much in others; the review I glanced over said the 15mm end gives a 180-degree diagonal instead of the circular crop, which should be pretty sweet. As to the 17 not being wider - you're absolutely right. For my nickel, things like the national parks out west are once-in-a-long-time trips and it's worth spending a bit to get better glass for the trip; hence the L. |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 1:08:38 PM
if your going to rent a wide angle get the canon 10-22 it is L glass but an efs mount so they cant call it an L but it is great on the apc sensor. What are you wanting to shoot if its landscapes the 10-22 is great if you are doing wildlife the 100-400 is very versatile lens
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Posted: 6/29/2012 3:47:31 PM
Originally Posted By zercool:
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Originally Posted By zercool:
Another vote for the wide lenses, spend the extra to rent "L" glass. I have no affiliation with this site but it's what I found. Borrow Lenses I'd probably spring for the 17-40 f/4L and quite possibly the 8-15 f/4L fisheye. With the lenses you've got you'd have most things covered. IMHO the fisheye would give you some amazing vistas with that kind of scenery. Well, the 17-40mm on his T3i (crop frame / APS-C sensor) won't get him much wider, although the quality should be much better than the 18-55mm kit lens. The 8-15mm might be good, but I hate fisheye... OP might not. Yeah, the fisheye is a love/hate thing. I think it works in some places and not so much in others; the review I glanced over said the 15mm end gives a 180-degree diagonal instead of the circular crop, which should be pretty sweet. As to the 17 not being wider - you're absolutely right. For my nickel, things like the national parks out west are once-in-a-long-time trips and it's worth spending a bit to get better glass for the trip; hence the L. Absolutely. I wish I had ponied up some to rent a nice lens or two earlier this month when I went to the Grand Canyon. Oh well, I've lived and learned! I'm already tentatively planning another trip out there with a buddy since he has access to an RV. If gas prices drop and stay low next year, it's going to be even easier! I definitely want a better 18-xxx lens, and also want a nice wide angle. If I can't buy one by then, I'll see about renting the Canon 10-22mm. |
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Posted: 6/30/2012 1:43:24 AM
[Last Edit: 6/30/2012 1:47:15 AM by Shiftay]
Rent the 17-40L and the 24-105 f4 L. That should cover just about everything and you will be happy you did...
Im not a pro but I noticed a distinct increase in image quality when I started buying L glass. EDIT: Here's a sunset pic my girlfriend took from the Grand canyon with my 7D and a sigma 10-20mm lens to get you excited... Nothing like sunset and red rock.
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Posted: 6/30/2012 2:12:26 AM
Think im going with the 17-40
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Posted: 6/30/2012 9:21:40 PM
Originally Posted By 4DAIVIPAI2K5:
Think im going with the 17-40 We expect photos when you get back! |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 8:59:23 AM
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Originally Posted By 4DAIVIPAI2K5:
Think im going with the 17-40 We expect photos when you get back! Rodger that. |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 9:46:03 AM
Originally Posted By 4DAIVIPAI2K5:
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Originally Posted By 4DAIVIPAI2K5:
Think im going with the 17-40 We expect photos when you get back! Rodger that. If at all possible, take your 18-55mm lens and snap some 'comparison' shots. I'm really curious to see if I can see the difference between shots with the cheap 18-55 and the 17-40L. |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 9:48:26 AM
Will do
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:19:31 AM
Well it was a good thought but July 4th Holiday would make getting it here by Friday difficult.
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Posted: 7/3/2012 9:19:14 AM
Have them ship the lenses to your hotel?
ByteTheBullet (-: |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 10:40:32 AM
Originally Posted By ByteTheBullet:
Have them ship the lenses to your hotel? ByteTheBullet (-: I don't think my tent has a address :( |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 11:43:46 AM
17-40 L and 100-400 L, everything else will stay in the bag, trust me.
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