Pharah is struggling? Oh well by all means please buff her.

I played it for a lol bit one day.  Son bought it for the ps4.  Played the cowboy Clint Eastwood looking character.  Fun fps. May play more.

I have put a couple tens of hours in it on PC. Mostly been playing Mercy, and Mei or D.Va if someone is already mercying. Not super good at timing my rezzes, still.

ETA: but in my heart, i'm all about that mei
bout that mei
no reinhardt

She's just too easy to pick off when she goes up for rocket barrage. Especially with them giving McCree his range back.

Yeah, she is only really good for knocking out turrets and bastion now. Generalizing a bit, but it was probably a good move.

Pharah is one of those that seems like she's struggling since more people are figuring out how to actually counter specific heroes. I feel like the only true safe bets no matter the map/mode are usually going to be s76/reaper, rein/zarya, lucio/mercy (sometimes zen). Pharah is best to take out a bastion with some distance, turrets, splash symmetra turrets, etc. The problem with pharah is that people try to use her on maps that they have no business attempting to use her on. Even on certain payload maps she's best off being used only during certain parts (last push on king's row, nobody suspects her coming from underneath the map). She can still clean house on illios:well for instance if you're good at knocking people into the well. I can get multi kills easily on nepal:sanctum just from knocking people off. So..., like every other hero she largely depends on the rest of the team comp and whether it's quick play, competitive, solo, or group.

Pharah was dominating matches. The mercy pharah combo was too strong and effective on too many maps. This happened because of the nerfs to widow and mcree from before.

The problem, for a bit, was that mcree became a better mid range shot than widow.


Really, that sort of engagement should be Hanzo territory, and was until the projectile change which now makes projectiles go through enemies about 5 percent of the time.

I'm thinking that's going to change. You never see Hanzo or Widow in comp anymore.


For the D.Va fans..., internet brofived the Zarya on my team after this one:

Nice! If I have a Mercy or Lucio with me that knows what they are doing, I can wreck people's day as D.Va. I got the achievement for killing 4 with her ultimate last night.

I was doing pretty good as a a D.Va's support last night as Ana. D.va would go in, harass, fly straight up and out while I was healing her from halfway across the map. Cuck a biotic grenade here and there to help drop lucio and that was about it for the other team

need team mates on PC darkvesperia#1517

Hey just in case I forget to add you when I get home go ahead and add me if you're on right now. MapleSyrup#1687, I have a couple discord groups I'm in that are always good. If you don't have discord already download it, if you do join the subreddit channel from r/overwatch, it's pretty handy for finding groups.

I cannot stop laughing.

That...was fucking hilarious!

I just want my fucking 'murica mccree skin

I'm dying for Mercy's Switzerland skin. I bought 33 fucking loot boxes already, god dammit.

Since you've mentioned buying them I feel not so bad admitting that I've got about 40. I've gotten 4 of the swiss mercy ones and a few zarya, lucio, tracer, etc... but no 'murica mccree  yet, I give up.

SON OF A BITCH.

I played a whole bunch last night, ended up joining a 5-man group as the healer. One of them was like "dude, dont u get bored healing all the time" to which i must reply are you kidding me? being healer is like free money! if you're even 1% decent EVERYBODY LOVES YOU.

Healers get shafted out of potential xp vs damage dealers though

I get 2500-3000 in a typical game - maybe 4000-4500 if I really play my ass off and the game goes long (or if there's multiple tanks on my team). What do DPS usually get?

I find it amusing when someone starts spamming the "we need a healer" button while they play as anyone who is not a healer...

Most of my time is on mercy/lucio since I usually end up having to choose them in QP. I'm pretty good at it but it does get boring when you're solo. It's the opposite in a group though because there is generally more team work so I get to concentrate on my mercy/lucio game. In solo QP half the time I'm thinking "I wish that useless genji/hanzo/widow weeb would just swap to lucio or mercy, heal a little bit and actually contribute so me or somebody else can tank or go dps". Not to be stuck up, but damn. I think it's really easy to be an "OK" healer and the team will still love you. It's really hard to be a great healer IMHO and the team loves you even more. For me, it sucks to think anybody could be an ok healer but they chose to be an awful genji or mei instead. Idk, I'm rambling. Anyways, if nothing else you know that you always have a place in a team since everybody forming a group loves having a couple people to rotate heals on.

I think that's perfectly reasonable, and I feel that way sometimes, too... but then, sometimes I want to play a hero I've never played before that i suck ass at (I have 23 hours in Mercy, 10 in Mei, 4 in Lucio, and 1 or less in literally everybody else, haha), and then everybody has to put up with me being the worst DPS in the world.

On escorts mission in competitive 4k is pretty easy, and around 5 is not uncommon. It comes down to medals and eliminations. I don't think healing is rewarded in xp as much as it should be, given the fact that the 5 main contributors to xp is elims, obj elims, obj time, healing, and damage.

Zenyatta is the easiest to get the most xp as a healer because he has good dmg as well. Lucio on certain maps where you can knock people off if you are good at it can yield quite a few elims, but dps is easier to get more medals, and you are awarded bonus xp for medals.

Hey, that's what quick play is for. When it just isn't working out though people stick with it. You can be a pretty bad D.Va or tracer as far as getting kills goes but still help by flanking and drawing attention. Somebody that insists on going bastion and getting shredded, going widow but can't aim, etc, each and every damn round makes it kind of bleh. I like to practice with heroes I don't usually play like everybody else but I'll do it when when we're up and switch back and forth. It's kind of infuriating when you see a guy with 50 hours play time, 40 hours as a genji, hanzo, etc, but they'll still suck on that one hero they play every game regardless of the situation.

60 tick servers, season 2 changes, matchmaking and a zen nerf incoming
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20748414915#post-3
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20748394719?page=1#post-20

Reports are 60 tick is live now

I can't believe I never saw this thread before. Any of you guys playing the PTR? I wholeheartedly welcome the Genji nerf, Hanzo is back to being super annoying (spamming arrows and racking up lucky headshots,) and my favorite character (Mei) is now even more annoying than before.

Bnet is MapleSyrup#1687 if you want to add me. I'll be on more this week since I'm changing shifts and I'm about capped out on overtime for the year.

I am usually really good with D.Va. I have had matches with her where I have well over 20 kills and zero deaths, or more kills with some deaths but kill streaks of 20 or more.  There are certain levels I can own with Bastion but most levels I suck with him or just do ok.

I also play with Soldier and Tracer.  

I am not very good with anyone else or just don't like playing with them.  I try to mix it up but I rarely use anyone but D.Va, Soldier, Tracer, or Bastion.  It kind of irritates me but I am not patient enough to try to learn other characters and get my ass kicked.

Most really competitive groups don't even like playing with people that play more than 2 or 3 heroes. I personally like being able to use just about anyone, but on the competitive side it's better to just be really good at a few than ok with everyone.

Friend requested you, I'm Helo#11644. Have you been playing the PTR at all, I've been only playing it since the newest release last week. They also just released the new map to the PTR, so you can get some time playing it before it goes live on the normal servers. It's awesome for flanking.

Eichenwalde is a flanking dream, if you like playing those heroes you'll love the new map.

Just saw your request. I'm finally done with OT for the most part at work, and I'm back on mids so I can play a lot more again. I'm going to be on PTR probably the next two days or so. I'm an edgelord reaper/pharah/dva so the new map should be fun for me

The healer of the be-e-east!

(ETA: this match was like 95% done when I joined, I'm usually a much better healer)

Defeat in 1:39 and gold for eliminations with 1? I hate getting dropped into horrid lopsided losses like that.

Que sera sera.

Gonna throw down some quick play for an hour or two; BakerMike#1564 on Bnet, BakerMikeRomeo#7410 on Discord if y'all want to throw down.

Added you on bnet and discord, it'll be the request from maplesyrup.

Season 2 competitive just went live yesterday afternoon, lots of changes that should address most people's complaints (sudden death)

A new patch is now live on Windows PC. Read below to learn more about the latest changes.

To share your feedback, please post in the General Discussion

forum.For a list of known issues, visit our Bug Report

forum.For troubleshooting assistance, visit our Technical Support

forum.

Please note that many of these changes will be implemented on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One in an upcoming patch.

**###### PATCH HIGHLIGHTS

**

Competitive Play Season 2

We've made some big changes to Competitive Play in anticipation of the launch of Season 2. The most noticeable change is the introduction of skill tiers, which we hope will better communicate players' relative skill levels. Competitive Play will put a greater emphasis on skill tiers over specific ratings, and as such, a player's tier will be more prominently displayed throughout the game. We've also switched the skill rating system to a 1-5000 scale to give players more detailed information about how each match affects their specific rating.

Sudden Death is also going away in Season 2. Instead, matches that are tied when the clock runs out end in a draw—though, it should be a rare occurrence. Because of this, we've made some changes to our game modes in Competitive Play to help reduce the chance that a draw can happen.

We've also made a few minor adjustments to leaver penalties, the top 500 system, and the competitive point system. Read on below to learn more!

New Assault/Escort Map: Eichenwalde

The forest has slowly begun overtaking the abandoned village of Eichenwalde, but the scars will never completely fade. During the Omnic Crisis, Eichenwalde was the site of a key battle. General Balderich von Adler took a handful of crusaders to the village in an effort to outflank the omnic army. Balderich's soldiers were able to break down the enemy forces, giving the German military an opportunity to push back, but the Crusaders didn't make it out of the battle. General Balderich finally collapsed in the castle's great hall.

**###### GENERAL UPDATES

**

General

[il]When activating the "Ultimate Status" communication, Symmetra now reports the number of charges left on her teleporter[/li]* When activating the "Needs healing" communication while targeting a teammate, Ana, Lúcio, Mercy, and Zenyatta will now tell allies to group up to receive healing. A marker will also appear above the player's head, allowing teammates to locate the healer more quickly

•Added Torbjörn as an AI-controlled hero in Practice vs. AI, Play vs. AI, and Custom Game modes


•Sit and laugh emotes are now unlockable for all heroes


Competitive Play

•Skill rating is now measured on a 1-5000 scale instead of the former 1-100 scale


•Skill Rating Tiers


•Players will now be assigned to a tier, depending on their skill rating


•Bronze - 1-1499


•Silver - 1500-1999


•Gold - 2000-2499


•Platinum - 2500-2999


•Diamond - 3000-3499


•Master - 3500-3999


•Grandmaster - 4000-5000


•In Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, and Diamond tiers, a player will not drop out of their tier even if their skill rating falls below the cutoff


•In Master and Grandmaster tiers, a player whose skill rating falls below the tier's minimum will be moved to a lower tier


•Players that have reached the Master and Grandmaster tiers must be within 500 Skill Rating of their groupmates


•Players that are Diamond-tier and below must be within 1000 Skill Rating of their groupmates


•Skill Rating Decay


•Players in Diamond, Master, and Grandmaster tiers that haven't participated in a competitive match for 7 days will lose skill rating


•Players with a skill rating above 3000 (Diamond tier or higher) will lose 50 rating points every 24 hours, but their rating will not fall below 3000


•Competing in a single match will halt skill rating decay


•Players that haven't participated in a competitive match for 7 days will immediately drop out of the top 500


•Map Changes


•Several refinements have been made to the time bank system for Hanamura, Temple of Anubis, and Volskaya Industries


•The time bank system has been added to Dorado, Hollywood, King's Row, Numbani, Route 66, and Watchpoint: Gibraltar


•Time granted for taking objectives on Dorado, Hanamura, Hollywood, King's Row, Numbani, Route 66, Temple of Anubis, Volskaya Industries, and Watchpoint: Gibraltar has been reduced from 5 minutes to 4


•Competitive Points


•Existing competitive points saved from Season 1 will be multiplied by 10


•After winning a competitive match, players will now receive 10 competitive points (instead of 1)


•Players will now receive 3 competitive points for a draw


•The cost of golden weapons has also been multiplied by 10 - from 300 to 3000


•A soft cap is being placed on the number of competitive points that can be saved


•Players with more than 6000 points at the start of season 2 will no longer accrue points by playing competitive matches


•End-of-season rewards will still be granted to players at the soft cap


•Instead of going into sudden death, tied competitive matches will now result in a draw


•Players must now win at least 50 competitive matches to be eligible for a spot in the top 500


•Players must now complete more matches to clear their penalty status for leaving a competitive match early


**###### HERO BALANCE UPDATES

**

General

•Ultimates that consume the ultimate meter when activated will now drain the meter more quickly (.25 second instead of 1 second)


•Reverted a recent change that reduced the size of heroes' projectiles


•Most hero abilities will no longer interrupt quick melee attacks


•Ultimate abilities will now interrupt quick melee attacks


**Developer Comments: *Altering the size of projectiles in flight had too many unintended side effects to keep in the game, at least in its current form. We will continue watching this and make additional changes if necessary. We’re also making quick melee more consistent when interacting with enemy abilities.*

D.Va

•Defense Matrix


•After being activated, Defense Matrix will begin regenerating following a 1-second delay (formerly .5 seconds)


**Developer Comments:* Defense Matrix was too efficient when tapped repeatedly, instead of being held. Now, the recovery delay matches the ability cooldown.*

Hanzo

•Hanzo will now experience a 30% decrease in speed while aiming (formerly 40%)


•Maximum projectile speed has been increased by 30%


•Arrow size has been reduced by 33%


**Developer Comments: *Hanzo has the potential to deal a lot of damage, but he can feel really inconsistent, even at a medium distance. By increasing the projectile speed, we’re extending his reliable range, making it easier to land shots without having to perfectly predict enemy movement. To compensate for the increased projectile speed, we’ve decreased the size of his arrows, meaning his shots now require a bit more accuracy. *

Mei

•Blizzard


•Projectile now pierces barriers


•Radius has been increased from 8 meters to 10 meters


**Developer Comments:* Mei has an interesting toolkit, but her ultimate often felt like it was too difficult to use effectively. Consequently, it felt weak compared to many other ultimate abilities. The freeze effect has been piercing barriers for some time now, but the projectile would still be blocked. Now, you can throw it down exactly where you want it, so it’s much easier to utilize the full radius effectively.*

McCree

•Deadeye


•Now drains over a .25-second period (instead of displaying a 50% reduction on the ultimate meter when activated and 0% when confirmed)


**Developer Comments:* If players managed to counter or avoid McCree's ultimate, it would often regenerate very quickly since only half of the ultimate charge was spent. Now, this ultimate works like every other ultimate that has a duration.*

Mercy

•Caduceus Staff


•Healing Beam


•Healing-per-second has been increased by 20%


•Resurrect


•Resurrected allies will be able to maneuver after 2.25 seconds (reduced from 3 seconds)


**Developer Comments:* Resurrection now allows teammates to jump back into the fight more quickly, which should help Mercy survive after activating her ultimate. Mercy's healing is also getting a boost to solidify her role as a strong, single-target healer.*

Genji

•Double jump no longer resets when wall climbing


•Swift Strike


•No longer deals damage to traps like Widowmaker's Venom Mine or Junkrat's Steel Trap


•No longer bypasses Junkrat's Steel Trap


•No longer interrupts quick melee attacks


•Dragonblade


•Duration of Genji's ultimate has been reduced from 8 seconds to 6 seconds


**Developer Comments:* Genji was a little too difficult to pin down, and these changes will balance his speed. Swift Strike no longer cancels the recovery time from a quick melee attack, so players will no longer be able to get a free melee attack before using Swift Strike. Lastly, Dragonblade's duration was long enough that it often felt too difficult to reasonably counter.*


•Amp It Up


•The boosting of movement speed has been decreased by 30% (from a 100% increase to a 70% increase)


**Developer Comments: *Thanks to Lúcio's speed increase, he was almost a must pick in every lineup.*

Roadhog

•Chain Hook


•If the hooked target isn't in Roadhog's line of sight when retracting the hook, they will be moved back to the position where they were originally hooked


**Developer Comments:* This change means that hooked targets will be less likely to slide along walls, potentially ending up in an odd place after they've been reeled in.*

Soldier: 76

•Heavy Pulse Rifle


•Bullet spread now happens more quickly when unloading fully-automatic pulse fire


•Significantly Increased bullet spread recovery time


**Developer Comments: *These changes will make burst-firing feel more reliable and increase his effectiveness at longer ranges.*

Zenyatta

•Orb of Discord


•The amount of damage amplified by a target with Orb of Discord has been decreased from 50% to 30%


•Orb of Destruction


•Damage has been increased from 40 to 46


**Developer Comments:* Zenyatta is in a far better place since the last update, but the strength of Orb of Discord has turned him into an almost mandatory pick. These changes reduce Orb of Discord's effectiveness, but his damage-dealing potential has been increased. The amount of damage that he delivers should feel largely unaffected by the change.*

**###### MAP BALANCE CHANGES

**

Watchpoint: Gibraltar
•Watchpoint: Gibraltar’s first checkpoint has been removed

**Developer Comments: *The balance changes that were implemented in previous patches have eliminated the need for Watchpoint: Gibraltar to have an extra checkpoint.*

**###### USER INTERFACE UPDATES

**

General

•A new "Allied Health Bars" option has been added (Options > Controls)


•Contextual menus have been added on the hero selection screen, giving players the ability to report or group up with other players


•Matchmaking UI is now purple in the Competitive Play queue


•Made several minor adjustments to typography in the Spectator UI


**###### BUG FIXES

**

General

•Fixed a bug that allowed the kill participation metric to go above 100 percent


•Fixed a bug in the Custom Game settings preventing the Ability Cooldown modifier from affecting Ana


•Fixed a bug causing players to incorrectly see gains in experience points when completing Custom Games


•Fixed a bug that caused heroes to die when first spawned in a custom game if Health and Damage modifiers were used simultaneously


AI

•Fixed a bug that could cause AI Bastion to become stuck, continuously healing himself in the spawn area


•Fixed a bug preventing Torbjörn from placing his turret in viable locations


Heroes

•Appropriate sound effects now play when Ana shoots barriers, shields, and armor


•Ana’s scope now correctly displays all custom reticle options


•D.Va no longer communicates her ultimate status for Self-Destruct while charging her Call Mech ultimate


•D.Va’s Boosters are no longer auto-cancelled if activated while her primary fire is active


•D.Va’s ultimate charge status is no longer reset to 0% if she falls to her death while piloting a mech


•Hanzo's “Spirit Dragon” unlockable voice line now correctly plays when using his Okami and Lone Wolf skins


•Fixed various issues with Junkrat's emote and highlight animations


•Fixed a bug that kept Junkrat’s ammo from being refilled when he was resurrected


•Fixed an issue causing Mei's Ice Wall to push herself to the side when cast at her feet


•Fixed a bug preventing Mei's Ice Wall from being destroyed by a moving payload


•Fixed a bug that prevented Mei's Ice Wall from appearing at the target location when cast


•Fixed a bug allowing Reaper to reach unintended map locations using Shadow Step


•Fixed a bug causing Reinhardt's shield to jitter when turning in third person


•Fixed an issue that prevented Roadhog's chain from displaying correctly in some situations


•Fixed a bug causing Roadhog’s chain to become permanently extended if his target disconnected from the match


•Fixed several issues with Symmetra's emotes and highlight intros


•The scarf on Tracer's Slipstream skin is no longer stiff in the Hurdle highlight intro


•Fixed a bug preventing overtime from being triggered while Zenyatta is using Transcendence


•The names of Tracer's Sprinter and Track and Field skins now display correctly


•Ana’s attacks and abilities now activate the controller’s rumble function


•Fixed a bug preventing bullet shells from being rendered in Bastion’s “Bullet Rain” highlight intro


•The alternate fire on McCree’s Peacekeeper ability now activates the controller’s rumble function for all six shots


Maps

•Fixed an issue preventing Genji and Hanzo from reliably climbing a specific crate on Watchpoint: Gibraltar


•Fixed several issues that allowed Reaper to reach unintended locations on Watchpoint: Gibraltar


User Interface

•Competitive play leaver messaging no longer overlaps with the PvP HUD at the top of the screen


•Fixed a bug causing the end of season banner to pop up while the player is in a match


•Fixed a bug preventing the hero list in Custom Game settings from being organized alphabetically


•The spectate option now becomes unavailable (the button will be greyed out) when all spectator slots have been filled in a Custom Game lobby


•Fixed an issue causing in-game statistics to run off the edge of the screen in 16:10 aspect ratio


•Fixed a bug preventing the Network Quality notifications from functioning


•Fixed a bug on the main menu that caused the Hollywood background to appear brighter than intended


•Fixed a bug in the Hero Details page that occasionally caused some information to be pushed partially off screen

The new patch is a buggy mess. The people who played the PTR didn't catch so much shit or blizzard fucked up the live patch.

I'm finding the current competitive system to be just as fucked and meaningless as the last. Almost all of my games are ties resulting in what feels like a gigantic waste of my time as well as a stagnation of my rank.


I'm noticing a ton of people being ranked where I was placed (platinum) who just don't have the game sense or the mechanics to be playing at this level.


I don't even want to go in to the plethora of bugs involving character interactions and bugs that have existed for months still happening.


I do, however, want to mention that matches are ending 10 to 30 seconds early almost every game. Players can be on an objective and it just ends.


Nobody on the PTR actually tested this game.

what glitches are you talking about credge? Still doing my placement matches but it seems like an improvement so far. Also, with the matches ending early are you sure it isn't just the new time system? I know some don't like it, but I think it's a nice improvement. No reason you should be absolutely dominating a team on time the entire match and then have them come back from nothing. Makes for less exciting games on occasion since you don't have those massive come backs, but I don't feel robbed after a massive shit fest comeback either.

Boutta throw down for a couple of hours if anyone wants to play on PC
BakerMike#1564 on Bnet, BakerMikeRomeo#7410 on Discord

Did my first five competitive placement matches on monday - managed 1 loss and 4 wins with a varying 5- and 6-player crew. Got a couple of Mercy Plays of the Game (I never did more than a triple revive, though - a recent patch must have loosened the requirements, because I've never had one with less than a 4x revive before that, unless everyone else in the game totally stunk).

big fan of the changes they made for season 2, feels a lot more balanced. seems like most characters work out pretty good depending on the player, nice change of pace from seeing a genji and s76 every round. At higher levels though mercy has kind of fallen off in favor of zenyatta though.

I didn't spent forty friggin bucks on loot boxes to get that sick Swiss Olympics skin to play some cross-legged hippie robot, COP.

Also, the people I happened to be playing Competitive with were some ferociously clown-shoes high-school/college-aged kids, so I have some doubts about my reaching "higher levels". They were half-decent at the game itself, but during the prep for one of our attack games, one of the guys pipes up in Discord: "Oh, man, they changed D.Va's shield!"

To which I can only reply: "I'm a pretty lady, check out this healing laser I brought" as we wither under a hail of bullets and trash-talk from the other team.

I do like that swiss skin....
For the reasons you outlined that's why zen and ana are making a big push right now. Because face it, the only person on the team that cares about team work is the healer and the sometimes the tank, so when your pharah/genji are floating around like tard buckets not doing any damage sometimes it's up to ana or zen to do it for them.
I'll go back to eating my donuts now.

Honestly, I don't much like playing Mercy. While I am healing one person, another dies. If I try to fly to whomever needs the most healing, I die. I prefer Lucio if I am going to play a healer. Skate around close to as many team members that can hear the healing beat, spam my ghetto blaster, and hit the ultimate to counter the other team's ultimates.

It took me a while to warm up to Mercy (for a while I was autopicking Mei, because ice walls are hilarious), but I enjoy constantly twisting around and switching heal-beam targets and guardian-angeling from one group of teammates to the next. I'm trying to get better about knowing when to switch off of healing one guy before he's topped up to heal someone else -- trying to pseudolucio by constantly switching targets, haha.

It is frustrating that she's made out of tissue paper and toothpicks, and that it takes so-o-o lo-o-ong to get out her pistol to deal with a flanker. I find it a hundred times more frustrating when I'm playing lucio and someone dies and that's just it. As Mercy I can decide whether or not to bring that guy back -- if we've got two tanks I can just be like "get up!" and be confident that I'll have another rez in 30 seconds because our tanks are constantly getting shot to bits.

I'm too low level for placement matches. FeelsBadMan