Indeed. Once I shot a rocket at a tagged helo and thought I missed. Perhaps 45 seconds to a minute later I get notification that I just killed someone with my Gustav. I had completely forgotten about that launch and it had been tracking the whole time.

That was fun as hell!







 

Yes, it was.

It was amazing when a 6 member squad would pretty much dominate a 64 player server owning just about every air asset.  The raping was pretty epic.

Only thing that was painful was realizing how humiliating it was when a few of the AR15 and TPG guys would get together to try and play against other clans that truly had no life.

From the above video:











LOL WUT?? No rear sight?

America's Army splash screen for Snakesplain had the same problem lol



 

Yeah I made some changes and here is what I have now:

 

 

I KNOW! Hopefully its just a singleplayer detail omission that will be fixed.



ETA: By the way, today was supposed to be the big unveiling at GDC. Anyone see anything new out on the wires?





 

The event is happening this evening, info embargoed until midnight, so check back tomorrow.





 

Will soouthpaw be supported?

This is EA we are talking about. The same EA that fired the team that made the Desert Combat mod for BF1942 because they refused to dumb BF2 down to and arcade game.



Trust me they will fuck this up. The only hope we have is they leave it open and provide a SDK kit so someone can roll out a PR mod.

bump - New trailer

The graphics are downright sexy.





The single player looks like the same defined path/actions that we've gotten from the CoD series and Bad Company series alike.





At this point, the single player is nice and usually somewhat fun, but I pay $60 a game for staying power (multiplayer).





Hopefully the MP kicks ass, but I doubt we see much of it for awhile.



ETA: I would love for them to build a WWII game around the technology (i.e. Frostbite 2.0) that we have today. The XBL Arcade BF 1943 was ok, but obviously not a full-budget project. It might be time to let all the modern-day Iraq/Afghanistan/Generic-Middle-Eastern-Country games take a break.





 

Mmm... front sight absolute cowitness. Too bad its an ACOG and we knowledgable people know it doesn't work that way.

Embedded:

Reminds me wayy too much of Medal of Honor 2010...

The good news is that's just the single player.



With the return of 64 players (PC) and jets, I think it's safe to say the multiplayer won't completely suck like MOH.



 

http://pc.ign.com/articles/115/1152917p1.html

Frankly, I'm concerned that they've shown so little at this point.  Think about the LONG list of features that are, presumably, not yet ready to be shown.  And they have roughly 8 months before they need to have a build ready to stock Christmas shelves.  I expect the game to be small and bug-ridden at launch.  Either that or they will delay it.





 

I know its still early, but in the latest SP video, I'm still hearing the same audio samples/fx from Bad Company 2, which where also in the MOH game that Dice did as well.



 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but DICE did MoH's MP component. The SP (which was surprisingly different) was built by an in-house EA team.

 

Latest trailer is broken down by military types:

DICE is the developer of the game (EA is the publisher) and, yes, DICE has stated that the weapons will have sights.





Interesting stuff; thanks for posting it.
 

The graphics are gonna be gorgeous. I reeeeeeeeeally need to upgrade or build a new computer before that comes out.

A few gripes here or there, but I like how it's shaping up from that trailer.

Looking good. Please let it be an updated BF2, and nothing like COD or Bad Company.

BF3 is basically a pollished version BFBC

bigger maps
more/better looking weapons
more vehicals
more players in multi play

thats it and thats all

the developers, dice and EA are not going to do anything revolutionary considering they sold around 3 million copies of BFBC 2, they are using a new version of the frostbite engine but at the end of the its going to play the same,

it would be nice to have a game close to BF2 but its not going to happen, they are not going to reinvent the wheel

BFBC is where the current engine got its start
a year later, BFBC 2 gave us almost completly destruction of buildings
a year later MOH gave us more realistic looking graphics compared to the some
a year later BF3 will tie everything together

Pretty cool new fact is they have confirmed that they will finally allow the player to use the fire selector switch to go from semi to full/burst on weapons that allow it. Bout time they finally added this.

+1

And all the "fixes" for the whiners that fuck up the game, such as the faggot sniper campers not liking that vehicles could actually act as an effective foil against them, so they all whined en masse so that DICE made their little shit mortars able to one-shot everything including tanks so now they could camp people on foot AND vehicles. Ridiculous. And then the bullshit where they cut the tickets down to 75 and made them refill ALL the way at each base on Rush. WTF. I think they had the perfect balance in the beta and at launch, but then they just fucked it all up with "updates."

At least even at its worst it was infinitely more enjoyable than COD. I think Battlefield 1943 reached the pinnacle of fun value though. Sniping required skill, taking out vehicles and aircraft required effort, and you couldn't control the battlefield hiding in a bunker with a good overlook; you had to get out there and fight if you wanted to make any difference. I no longer play any CODs, and I stopped playing Bad Company 1 and 2. I still play BF1943 though. It's only 3 maps, but when the gameplay is done right, the gameplay is done right.

Reading your post reminded me that I quit the game for a period of time after half the good guns got nerfed and various changes really diminished the gameplay. I find myself irritated by the same things now that I started playing again with some Arfcomers. Playing Rush, which I played almost exclusively before, is still a mind-numbing headache. I've come to terms with the games faults via Conquest. That being said, the Vietnam expansion is pretty darn good (despite most of the Conquest maps being without tanks or helicopters... apparently only the Rush players get the fun stuff). I suggest you give Vietnam a try.



I like BF1943, but don't play much because, much like the Vietnam expansion, no one on my friend's list plays. I wish there were more maps and the controls were consistent with BC2, but I accept it for what it is. I kind of like the Air Superiority side game. It's a good way to learn dog fighting vs. being repeatedly shot down in the normal game mode.



 

I'll consider it, but right now I have new copies of Dead Space 2 and Killzone 3 waiting to be played, so if I work up the nerve to go back to BC2 and try Vietnam that'll probably be later.


I'll tell you my real attraction to 1943...


In the top 100 pilots worldwide.

The only players I hear complain about "faggot sniper[s] and their little shit mortars" are those whose idea of fun is to park a tank in a strategic location of the map and mow down everything in sight without fear of being killed themselves.





 

+1...



Mortars don't one shot kill any armor, unless the sniper anticipates what the driver always does when the mortars start coming in, which is back up to get out of the impact area.



The best way to kill a vehicle with one mortar spot is to center the impact to the rear of the vehicle, unless they move forward, but most drivers move to the rear once the first round hits.



 

Sniper mortars have the longest reload of any weapon in any Battlefield-named game. It's actually faster to drop your mortars, die, respawn at base and run back to your camping spot and drop it again, than to wait for the cooldown period to end.

The mortar hate is a tad overblown. I think multiple snipers hitting the same are is often misconstrued as mortar spamming. Is it annoying? Yes, but it's part of the game.

The clear as day absolute co-witness is bad enough, but a fucking NSN01? Seriously?

I bitch about it because it can make capping a flag more sketchy than usual. I can generally minimize one mortar strike's damage to my vehicle, but when two or more snipers spam a flag, it's frustrating as hell. I don't expect to be invulerable, but please explain to me how a mortar strike (sometimes by itself) and a fucking 40mm/hand grenade can take out an Abrams. It's almost as bad as BC1 when you could be knifed out of a tank's turret. At least they fixed that bullshit in BC2.

Whats the deal with pulling the charging handle back everytime you reload except when topping off. Is it only going to be one or the other when getting a reload right in a game?

Oh, I didn't know that! Awesome. I know they did it in MOH. Hopefully it allows you to switch in multiplayer.

That was addressed on the OffDutyGamers.com breakdown of the video. The opinion there is split whether it's easier to hit the bolt catch or just pull the handle and let it ride home. Either way, you're not losing a round.

 

I seem to recall that when topping off my M14, there's no manipulation of the op rod handle. I honestly never paid too much attention to reloading except when belt-feds are concerned. That reload takes forever.

I'll see your response and raise you:

Mines.
UAVs.
C4.
Rockets.
TOW launchers.
Tanks and APCs.

All of which can effectively counter vehicles, only you have to be in the fight yourself instead of hiding and contributing nothing to the team's objective and racking up kills. Only people who think those aren't enough are people who want to be able to kill any vehicle in sight without fear of being killed themselves. i.e. camping snipers.

People using vehicles to break deadlocks on the map aren't the problem with BC2, the jerkoffs playing deathmatches while their team loses and complain because there are objects in the world they can't kill without moving are the problem. And around the time I stopped playing they were becoming a PLAGUE. 2/3 of the team would be snipers camping in buildings trying to snipe the handful of guys on the other team actually attempting to complete objectives. And if someone who knows how to effectively employ a tank starts killing them and they actually have to, *gasp*, go in harm's way and sneak a C4 onto the tank, they cry to DICE about how overpowered vehicles are.

I wouldn't complain as much if the mortar didn't do a ridiculous amount of damage or if support got the mortar like in BC1, but they proceeded to overpower the camp class so much it is (or at least was as of my last games) stupid.

Again, BF1943 got it right. A sniper could be very effective at both taking down infantry and countering vehicles, but the player had to learn his trade. BC2's beta and the retail version were also pretty close to this. Then the updates came, and If you have half an idea of what you're doing as the sniper in BC2 you could control the map. Which makes it even worse because then EVERYBODY is playing snipers. Fail.

In 1943, if I was attacking an objective, I could ALWAYS find guys already attacking it or willing to team up with me. BC2, I go it alone constantly with maybe 1, if I'm LUCKY, 2 other guys. But at least we have 10 snipers for backup.

THAT is why I still play 1943 to this day, and no longer play BC2.


Exactly. Controlling objectives without having to fight is not what Battlefield is about, gdamnit. If I could stomach being an ass, I'd have done the smoke/tracer dart griefing on my own snipers a lot more. Want me to get shot while you play deathmatch to boost your KDR stats and use me as bait and help the team not at all? Have a glowing red dot for the enemy to see, fucker.

OK, fair enough.  It isn't always quite so bad now.  On an attacking team of 16 on, say, Isla Innocentes, maybe 4 or 5 will be sniping, at least at the beginning of the round.  If they try and try to blow an MCOM and get frustrated, then the number of snipers goes up.  And sometimes I do the tracer dart trick if they start to annoy me.  



Still a great game, though.  Since I'm a PC guy I've not tried BF1943.



Btw, did you know that they actually nerfed the mortar in the first major patch?  They lengthened the cooldown from 45s to 1 min.  As far as I know, it's always had the same potency, I don't think they've changed that.





 

It absolutely has the same amount of damage.