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Posted: 10/25/2016 7:41:54 PM EDT
Lately, I've questioned the merits of keeping paused DLs in my programming.  My thought is, why should I train to decelerate the lift at 3-5" off the floor, when I really want to continue the explosiveness off the floor?

Your thoughts?  

I am thinking that I will drop these, and replace them with plain old deficit DLs, again, concentrating on explosiveness off the floor.  


FWIW, my other assistance work for posterior chain are:
- deficit stiff leg DLs
- BB rows
- Kroc rows
- snatch grip DLs
- chins
- BB shrugs
- a variety of bent over DB lateral raises
- and plate raises

The first 5 are staples; the others are rotational.

Link Posted: 10/25/2016 10:43:56 PM EDT
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How much can you deadlift?
Link Posted: 10/25/2016 10:48:29 PM EDT
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Overhead squat, tight core, good back support.

A lot of people have grip issues too.  That's something you can always work on separately also.
Link Posted: 10/25/2016 10:49:50 PM EDT
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Drop the paused DL,

Add:
DL with chains or bands
Heavy rack pulls, from knee level
Link Posted: 10/25/2016 11:14:06 PM EDT
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- 455 1 rm, conventional
- 400 x 10 just a couple of days ago.

Link Posted: 10/25/2016 11:16:04 PM EDT
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- 455 1 rm, conventional
- 400 x 10 just a couple of days ago.

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- 455 1 rm, conventional
- 400 x 10 just a couple of days ago.



You should be able to do way more than 455 if you can do 400 for 10.

Did you mention what program you are doing?
Link Posted: 10/25/2016 11:18:40 PM EDT
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Drop the paused DL,

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Heavy rack pulls, from knee level
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Good suggestions.  I used to have rack pulls included.  Not sure why I stopped.
Link Posted: 10/25/2016 11:23:48 PM EDT
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You should be able to do way more than 455 if you can do 400 for 10.

Did you mention what program you are doing?
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- 455 1 rm, conventional
- 400 x 10 just a couple of days ago.



You should be able to do way more than 455 if you can do 400 for 10.

Did you mention what program you are doing?


My last 1 rm test was Labor Day, and I'm not testing again until end of year.  I hope you are right...  I want 500.  Wendler's formula puts 400 x 10 at 533, but the calculated max on the DL has not proven very accurate for me.

Core programming is 5/3/1.
Link Posted: 10/25/2016 11:37:07 PM EDT
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My last 1 rm test was Labor Day, and I'm not testing again until end of year.  I hope you are right...  I want 500.  Wendler's formula puts 400 x 10 at 533, but the calculated max on the DL has not proven very accurate for me.

Core programming is 5/3/1.
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How much can you deadlift?



- 455 1 rm, conventional
- 400 x 10 just a couple of days ago.



You should be able to do way more than 455 if you can do 400 for 10.

Did you mention what program you are doing?


My last 1 rm test was Labor Day, and I'm not testing again until end of year.  I hope you are right...  I want 500.  Wendler's formula puts 400 x 10 at 533, but the calculated max on the DL has not proven very accurate for me.

Core programming is 5/3/1.


I just do cleans, bent over rows, pullups. Seem to progress ok. Hit 475 before I went on diet. For me less has always been more on deads.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 12:34:31 AM EDT
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Where are you weak in the lift?

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Thanks.

Have you used isometrics?  What were your results?

My sticking points are usually right off the floor or just below the knees.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 12:49:34 PM EDT
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I've tried all sorts of other accessories but I always seem to get results with three. Conventional deficit deadlifts, good mornings and lots of pull ups - with added weight if possible.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 3:30:46 PM EDT
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Thanks for everyone's input.  I've swapped out paused DLs and will do a rotation of rack pulls and deficit DLs on alternating weeks.

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Thanks for everyone's input.  I've swapped out paused DLs and will do a rotation of rack pulls and deficit DLs on alternating weeks.

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If you're weak early in the lift, you probably want to double down on movements increasing the ROM: deficit DL, snatch grip DL, etc. Rack pulls help the upper portion of the lift & lockout.

I'm a big snatch grip deadlift (or Trump deadlift, as they shall henceforce be known) fan because they really help with the upper back, too. Downside is that, to go heavy, you will very likely either need straps or to use the hook grip.
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