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Posted: 4/16/2015 7:22:55 PM EDT
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were you diagnosed with rhabdo?
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Posted: 4/16/2015 7:41:21 PM EDT
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Recommend you find a good program and follow it rather than make something up as you go along.
Why so many curls? What else did you do? What's your goals? |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 8:38:48 PM EDT
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Yes. Formal dx.
I had just started back and I did too much to fast as if I was 25. Goals? I also did 35 min Eliptical. 100 reps total for biceps. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 8:47:28 PM EDT
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Establish goals and find a program that will help you meet them.
If you keep making it up as you go along not only are you likely to hurt yourself, you're also unlikely to make the progress you want to. Forget the curls. Use curls as a workout finisher if you feel like you need something else. Center your workouts around big movements like squats. Everyone should be squatting at least sometimes regardless of goals. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 9:06:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Forget the curls. Use curls as a workout finisher if you feel like you need something else. Center your workouts around big movements like squats. Everyone should be squatting at least sometimes regardless of goals. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 9:27:50 PM EDT
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Squats ain't gonna give you PYTHONS, BRUH. NEED DEM PEAKS LIKE KILIMANJARO, LADIES AIN'T IMPRESSED MY SQUATZ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forget the curls. Use curls as a workout finisher if you feel like you need something else. Center your workouts around big movements like squats. Everyone should be squatting at least sometimes regardless of goals. Oddly enough I've been told by more than one woman that they are impressed by the fact I don't do beach muscles and neglect the lower body 
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Posted: 4/16/2015 9:33:46 PM EDT
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Hydrate like a mofo to help your kidneys filter and take it low and slow until your body adapts.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 9:34:13 PM EDT
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I wan to keep workout regiment to Powerblocks and incline bench. I also have a Precor eliptical. Can you help me find a program? I am 46, 215 lbs, large boned, and chubby with some muscle. I look more like a big guy than a fat ass.
My goals are some more muscle mass but only to make weight loss more easy. I wan to get down to 185. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 9:45:52 PM EDT
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I wan to keep workout regiment to Powerblocks and incline bench. I also have a Precor eliptical. Can you help me find a program? I am 46, 215 lbs, large boned, and chubby with some muscle. I look more like a big guy than a fat ass. My goals are some more muscle mass but only to make weight loss more easy. I wan to get down to 185. How are curls supposed to help with that? 
Diet if you want to lose weight. Strength program if you want to get strong. I liked Starting Strength. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 9:56:02 PM EDT
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Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:08:28 PM EDT
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Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. It was more of a comment on curls. You spent an entire workout stressing one of the smallest muscles in the body and neglected the biggest muscles. Do something like 5x5, Starting strength etc. Modify for the equipment you have and start looking for a barbell and squat rack. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:08:52 PM EDT
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Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. Weight and fat are 2 different things. You said you wanted to get down to 185#s. And you're not going to gain much muscle from curls. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 10:27:43 PM EDT
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It was more of a comment on curls. You spent an entire workout stressing one of the smallest muscles in the body and neglected the biggest muscles. Do something like 5x5, Starting strength etc. Modify for the equipment you have and start looking for a barbell and squat rack. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. It was more of a comment on curls. You spent an entire workout stressing one of the smallest muscles in the body and neglected the biggest muscles. Do something like 5x5, Starting strength etc. Modify for the equipment you have and start looking for a barbell and squat rack. ^This. Do starting strength until you start to plateau. Then move to a 5x5 program or 5/3/1. Do some research on proper dieting for lean mass. The book "Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle" is worth it's weight. If you aren't losing fat, you're fucking up your diet. Weights won't do it alone. Just the above will get you where you want to be, you just have to do your part and strictly follow your diet and workout plan. You can't cheat. Shit the bed on either, and you won't get results. If you really want to get serious, get a personal trainer that coaches competitors. Just my 2c. Oh, and research research research proper form. You can at worst injure yourself badly, look like a tool, cheat your gains, or all of the above. Mark Rippetoe has some very good videos on youtube. Roland seems to know his shit, so when he speaks, I'd listen.... |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 10:06:30 AM EDT
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Weight and fat are 2 different things. You said you wanted to get down to 185#s. And you're not going to gain much muscle from curls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. Weight and fat are 2 different things. You said you wanted to get down to 185#s. And you're not going to gain much muscle from curls. Guns Man .... this is a "gun site" after all. Everyone wants them. 
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Posted: 4/17/2015 10:20:57 AM EDT
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Thats because they know squatters can smash that ass Oddly enough I've been told by more than one woman that they are impressed by the fact I don't do beach muscles and neglect the lower body Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forget the curls. Use curls as a workout finisher if you feel like you need something else. Center your workouts around big movements like squats. Everyone should be squatting at least sometimes regardless of goals. Thats because they know squatters can smash that ass Oddly enough I've been told by more than one woman that they are impressed by the fact I don't do beach muscles and neglect the lower body |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 10:33:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats because they know squatters can smash that ass Curls might (might) help you get them to the bedroom but once you're there...it's the hip drive you'll wish you had. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 11:21:20 AM EDT
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Why not get both? I add a little bicep work in all the time after my workouts - especially after realizing how important they are in strongman. But it is really easy to overwork your biceps. I've almost ripped mine three times.
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Posted: 4/17/2015 11:45:36 AM EDT
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Why not get both? I add a little bicep work in all the time after my workouts - especially after realizing how important they are in strongman. But it is really easy to overwork your biceps. I've almost ripped mine three times. Right, I'm not against curls (though I do chin ups instead) but focusing a whole workout around them is ridiculous (unless you're a bodybuilder maybe I dunno, not up to speed on their programming) |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 11:46:42 AM EDT
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#preach Curls might (might) help you get them to the bedroom but once you're there...it's the hip drive you'll wish you had. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thats because they know squatters can smash that ass Curls might (might) help you get them to the bedroom but once you're there...it's the hip drive you'll wish you had. True story. Biceps ain't gonna help you break the headboard. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 11:48:29 AM EDT
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Right, I'm not against curls (though I do chin ups instead) but focusing a whole workout around them is ridiculous (unless you're a bodybuilder maybe I dunno, not up to speed on their programming) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why not get both? I add a little bicep work in all the time after my workouts - especially after realizing how important they are in strongman. But it is really easy to overwork your biceps. I've almost ripped mine three times. Right, I'm not against curls (though I do chin ups instead) but focusing a whole workout around them is ridiculous (unless you're a bodybuilder maybe I dunno, not up to speed on their programming) Also, underhanded bent over rows are great. Though I think oly lifting in general works your biceps too and gives you a good upper body build. Though maybe that just means my technique needs more fixing. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 11:52:59 AM EDT
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Also, underhanded bent over rows are great. Though I think oly lifting in general works your biceps too and gives you a good upper body build. Though maybe that just means my technique needs more fixing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why not get both? I add a little bicep work in all the time after my workouts - especially after realizing how important they are in strongman. But it is really easy to overwork your biceps. I've almost ripped mine three times. Right, I'm not against curls (though I do chin ups instead) but focusing a whole workout around them is ridiculous (unless you're a bodybuilder maybe I dunno, not up to speed on their programming) Also, underhanded bent over rows are great. Though I think oly lifting in general works your biceps too and gives you a good upper body build. Though maybe that just means my technique needs more fixing. Yeah it does work the upper body a lot. Though not much biceps....easily remedied by some chins a couple times a week. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 8:05:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was more of a comment on curls. You spent an entire workout stressing one of the smallest muscles in the body and neglected the biggest muscles. Do something like 5x5, Starting strength etc. Modify for the equipment you have and start looking for a barbell and squat rack. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. It was more of a comment on curls. You spent an entire workout stressing one of the smallest muscles in the body and neglected the biggest muscles. Do something like 5x5, Starting strength etc. Modify for the equipment you have and start looking for a barbell and squat rack. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 8:06:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weight and fat are 2 different things. You said you wanted to get down to 185#s. And you're not going to gain much muscle from curls. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. Weight and fat are 2 different things. You said you wanted to get down to 185#s. And you're not going to gain much muscle from curls. , it was just my arm day. Bi back and chest tri |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 8:08:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ^This. Do starting strength until you start to plateau. Then move to a 5x5 program or 5/3/1. Do some research on proper dieting for lean mass. The book "Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle" is worth it's weight. If you aren't losing fat, you're fucking up your diet. Weights won't do it alone. Just the above will get you where you want to be, you just have to do your part and strictly follow your diet and workout plan. You can't cheat. Shit the bed on either, and you won't get results. If you really want to get serious, get a personal trainer that coaches competitors. Just my 2c. Oh, and research research research proper form. You can at worst injure yourself badly, look like a tool, cheat your gains, or all of the above. Mark Rippetoe has some very good videos on youtube. Roland seems to know his shit, so when he speaks, I'd listen.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. It was more of a comment on curls. You spent an entire workout stressing one of the smallest muscles in the body and neglected the biggest muscles. Do something like 5x5, Starting strength etc. Modify for the equipment you have and start looking for a barbell and squat rack. ^This. Do starting strength until you start to plateau. Then move to a 5x5 program or 5/3/1. Do some research on proper dieting for lean mass. The book "Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle" is worth it's weight. If you aren't losing fat, you're fucking up your diet. Weights won't do it alone. Just the above will get you where you want to be, you just have to do your part and strictly follow your diet and workout plan. You can't cheat. Shit the bed on either, and you won't get results. If you really want to get serious, get a personal trainer that coaches competitors. Just my 2c. Oh, and research research research proper form. You can at worst injure yourself badly, look like a tool, cheat your gains, or all of the above. Mark Rippetoe has some very good videos on youtube. Roland seems to know his shit, so when he speaks, I'd listen.... |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 8:08:24 PM EDT
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So I was right?
Please dont tell me it was Crossfit. 
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Posted: 4/17/2015 8:15:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I was right? Please dont tell me it was Crossfit. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 8:18:01 PM EDT
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no. It was starting out from a long break. all biceps and I fucked up without hydrating....I worked out as if I was 25. IM 46. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I was right? Please dont tell me it was Crossfit. Well thats like more than 50% of your problem.
What are your goals? |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 8:32:09 PM EDT
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well no shit , it was just my arm day. Bi back and chest tri Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. Weight and fat are 2 different things. You said you wanted to get down to 185#s. And you're not going to gain much muscle from curls. , it was just my arm day. Bi back and chest tri This is the point: Spending an entire training session on the smallest muscles in the body is a waste of time and effort. Don't have an "arm" day. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 8:33:03 PM EDT
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Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. It was more of a comment on curls. You spent an entire workout stressing one of the smallest muscles in the body and neglected the biggest muscles. Do something like 5x5, Starting strength etc. Modify for the equipment you have and start looking for a barbell and squat rack. Define bad back. I know tons of people with bad bad backs that squat and deadlift to the best of their ability, and it's helped them get better...because a strong back is better than a weak back. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 9:15:24 PM EDT
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well no shit , it was just my arm day. Bi back and chest tri Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. Weight and fat are 2 different things. You said you wanted to get down to 185#s. And you're not going to gain much muscle from curls. , it was just my arm day. Bi back and chest tri What's an arm day? |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 9:26:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's an arm day? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. Weight and fat are 2 different things. You said you wanted to get down to 185#s. And you're not going to gain much muscle from curls. , it was just my arm day. Bi back and chest tri What's an arm day? |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 10:11:03 PM EDT
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Define bad back. I know tons of people with bad bad backs that squat and deadlift to the best of their ability, and it's helped them get better...because a strong back is better than a weak back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. It was more of a comment on curls. You spent an entire workout stressing one of the smallest muscles in the body and neglected the biggest muscles. Do something like 5x5, Starting strength etc. Modify for the equipment you have and start looking for a barbell and squat rack. Define bad back. I know tons of people with bad bad backs that squat and deadlift to the best of their ability, and it's helped them get better...because a strong back is better than a weak back. This has been my experience. Most "bad backs" are just weak backs that have been neglected long enough to become huge problems or they're still salvageable and just need strengthening. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:40:03 PM EDT
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Bi's and Back-didnt have enough strength for back muscles so I stopped. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, from what I know, muscle training will allow me to keep muscle while losing fat. Weight and fat are 2 different things. You said you wanted to get down to 185#s. And you're not going to gain much muscle from curls. , it was just my arm day. Bi back and chest tri What's an arm day? Weird. I have bench day, squat day, deadlift day and shoulder press day. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 11:37:49 AM EDT
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]Bi's and Back-didnt have enough strength for back muscles so I stopped. Again the point is that if you want to build strength you should be following a strength program not a split that is more suited to bodybuilders. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 1:26:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Again the point is that if you want to build strength you should be following a strength program not a split that is more suited to bodybuilders. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ]Bi's and Back-didnt have enough strength for back muscles so I stopped. Again the point is that if you want to build strength you should be following a strength program not a split that is more suited to bodybuilders. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 1:34:07 PM EDT
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so there is no medium? You get strength by lifting no? I will post pics of my body. You can tell me what I need to do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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]Bi's and Back-didnt have enough strength for back muscles so I stopped. Again the point is that if you want to build strength you should be following a strength program not a split that is more suited to bodybuilders. Medium between what? Is your goal to gain strength? Yes? Then follow a strength program. If your goal is body building then do that. Either way, spending a whole day on the smallest part of your body is useless. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 1:38:26 PM EDT
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http://postimg.org/gallery/1ric6ue90/
My goals are to trim, healthy look, muscular but not body builder guy but muscular fit 46 year old man. Underwear type model body. Im not gay so no need for a plump ass. My legs are my largest and most muscular in body. I mountain bike often. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 1:40:57 PM EDT
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looks like postimage didn't like the image.
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Posted: 4/19/2015 1:43:59 PM EDT
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http://postimg.org/gallery/1ric6ue90/ My goals are to trim, healthy look, muscular but not body builder guy but muscular fit 46 year old man. Underwear type model body. Im not gay so no need for a plump ass. My legs are my largest and most muscular in body. I mountain bike often. Based on these goals (I can't see your pic) I would ditch the BB routine and yes- I would focus on a strength routine. Clean up diet (if you want the trim look then that is mostly diet) and keep mountain biking. You can keep doing endless curls and ellipticals, but you won't meet your goals that way. But hey, do what you want. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 2:10:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2015 2:13:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2015 7:25:34 AM EDT
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Ok, my CK numbers are normal again.
What kind of workout do I need to trim up and get "in shape"? |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 7:50:03 AM EDT
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Ok, my CK numbers are normal again. What kind of workout do I need to trim up and get "in shape"? You need to do Starting Strength, it's a strength program. It focuses heavily on squats which it looks like you badly need with those little legs. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:21:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You need to do Starting Strength, it's a strength program. It focuses heavily on squats which it looks like you badly need with those little legs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ok, my CK numbers are normal again. What kind of workout do I need to trim up and get "in shape"? You need to do Starting Strength, it's a strength program. It focuses heavily on squats which it looks like you badly need with those little legs. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:23:44 AM EDT
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Ok, my CK numbers are normal again. What kind of workout do I need to trim up and get "in shape"? You need to do Starting Strength, it's a strength program. It focuses heavily on squats which it looks like you badly need with those little legs. FIFY.
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:35:40 AM EDT
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Ok. Thanks
But an Ostrich can kick the ass of a Boar. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:47:23 AM EDT
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Ok. Thanks But an Ostrich can kick the ass of a Boar. 
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:47:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok. Thanks But an Ostrich can kick the ass of a Boar. That said you can't out-run (or out lift) a poor diet, so if you really wanna Get Srs then: Step 1: Start tracking every single calorie that goes in your body. Don't change anything yet, just focus on getting a solid, accurate accounting of everything you eat. You'll surprise yourself how many calories you actually consume. Step 2: Buy a copy of Starting Strength, read it cover to cover, and develop a lifting plan. Stick to it. Skip the isolation exercises and focus on heavy, explosive movements. Step 3: Once you've got your lifting plan and your diet accounting, begin to trim your calories to an appropriate level. People here will help you determine what that means. Treat your calories like a budget: if you've got 2500 to spend, and you can have 500 calories of donut or 500 calories of chicken breast...maybe you really want that donut. But know you're going to have to go without something else. Step 4: Be patient. You're not going to see #demgainz overnight, but you didn't get fat overnight either. Apart from that, don't be afraid to ask for help, don't be afraid to take a little ball busting, and if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Looking good naked is simple: Eat less, move more. But don't think that means it's easy. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:48:11 AM EDT
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Forget the curls. Use curls as a workout finisher if you feel like you need something else. Center your workouts around big movements like squats. Everyone should be squatting at least sometimes regardless of goals. Oddly enough I've been told by more than one woman that they are impressed by the fact I don't do beach muscles and neglect the lower body My wife loves my quads. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:49:32 AM EDT
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