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Posted: 10/21/2014 2:46:40 PM EDT
[#1]
I'll bite:
Anything that artificially supplements or augments my endocrine system is "no good". And I'll go on record right now to say I could not give a shit about PEDs, I give a shit about being healthy and strong. If I could go to my family doc and be like "Doc, bro, I need me some gaaaaaaaaaaainz" and him say "No problem TheRex, here's a prescription for some muscles in a syringe, you'll need to come in once a month to make sure everything's cool." I would do that in a heartbeat, provided it gave me real and lasting improvement. I mean, PEDs just make the work you do give better results. The "common man" thinks you just get a shot in your ass and muscles pop out. You still have to work. So if it were legal and safe, with no or little risk of long term health repercussions, I'd take damn near anything.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 6:05:48 PM EDT
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Don't care. Let everyone use anything.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 6:24:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:32:10 PM EDT
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Don't care. Let everyone use anything. their body let them use what they want. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:42:44 PM EDT
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I don't really give a shit what people do.
With that said, there is a difference between taking a supplement...that supplements your diet...(BCAAs, protein) and a supplements that "unnaturally" increase certain hormones. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 8:16:38 PM EDT
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let people do what they want.
they're adults, not children. Shit... are steroids really any worse than cigarettes or alcohol?... Honestly?... |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:28:39 PM EDT
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Use whatever they want. Bro
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Posted: 10/24/2014 3:10:19 PM EDT
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Yeah, let adults do what they want.
Honestly, I'd try roids if it weren't for the needles. I am a huge pussy about needles and probably wouldn't use one on myself to save my life. |
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Posted: 10/24/2014 6:21:21 PM EDT
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At least wait til 25 or so.
Once you start you will be stuck with them forever. Don't do retarded crossfit shit and squat like god intended you to and It prolly wont be an issue. |
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Posted: 10/24/2014 9:12:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/24/2014 11:03:09 PM EDT
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Honestly, people here are more open minded than I "assumed".
And while roids are the most obvious drug to talk about I really mean it more broadly than that. I literally mean anything. And one thing Dr's seem to miss is their responsibility is not what I am talking about. I am talking about the individual and his body. Nothing else. I do think others should have no say whatsoever when it comes to my body. PS: I am anti-abortion, pro-choice for the same reason, that and religion (bible believing Christian), but that is a different sub-forum. 
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Posted: 10/26/2014 7:56:34 AM EDT
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Well, Some athlets that I deal with are professional and collegiate, which sometimes makes my decision on which medication to prescribe them very difficult.
The world anti-doping association is strict as funk, and often these athletes are tested and banned from using some meds that i would otherwise have prescribed them. |
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Posted: 10/26/2014 3:40:15 PM EDT
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At least wait til 25 or so. Once you start you will be stuck with them forever. Don't do retarded crossfit shit and squat like god intended you to and It prolly wont be an issue. Great advice, BRO. |
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Posted: 10/26/2014 4:49:38 PM EDT
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Well, Some athlets that I deal with are professional and collegiate, which sometimes makes my decision on which medication to prescribe them very difficult. The world anti-doping association is strict as funk, and often these athletes are tested and banned from using some meds that i would otherwise have prescribed them. Well, come on Doc. 400mg of cyp a week might be a bit much for a little lethargy.
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Posted: 10/26/2014 4:54:51 PM EDT
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I don't use them, but I have zero problems with people who do, including athletes. They make the game "unfair?" There's no such thing as fair, because without roids/GH and whatever else, pro sports is basically the genetic lottery.
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Posted: 10/26/2014 5:17:05 PM EDT
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Well, come on Doc. 400mg of cyp a week might be a bit much for a little lethargy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, Some athlets that I deal with are professional and collegiate, which sometimes makes my decision on which medication to prescribe them very difficult. The world anti-doping association is strict as funk, and often these athletes are tested and banned from using some meds that i would otherwise have prescribed them. Well, come on Doc. 400mg of cyp a week might be a bit much for a little lethargy. Migh as well bump it up to 500mg. You don't fuck around with lethargy. OP, I don't think you got the answer to what you were asking...or maybe you did. The line is drawn by the government or sports body. It's a shame when someone like DT can't treat a patient because the ruling committee says something is an infraction. If I could start my own sports league, you would be mandated to take roids. |
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Posted: 10/26/2014 7:32:22 PM EDT
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Well, come on Doc. 400mg of cyp a week might be a bit much for a little lethargy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, Some athlets that I deal with are professional and collegiate, which sometimes makes my decision on which medication to prescribe them very difficult. The world anti-doping association is strict as funk, and often these athletes are tested and banned from using some meds that i would otherwise have prescribed them. Well, come on Doc. 400mg of cyp a week might be a bit much for a little lethargy. I don't know, man. I'm pretty tired. 250 twice a week would perk me right up, I think! |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 11:19:35 AM EDT
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And with all that lethargy, you're bound to have muscle wasting. .. better bump the dose to 600mg to adequately mitigate that.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 11:20:43 AM EDT
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I completely agree!
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Posted: 10/27/2014 11:21:23 AM EDT
[#20]
I wish you were my doctor.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 1:16:18 PM EDT
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I wish you were my doctor.
I bet he does "distance diagnosis" and prescription writing...right doc? 
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Posted: 10/27/2014 1:53:42 PM EDT
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I bet he does "distance diagnosis" and prescription writing...right doc? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish you were my doctor.
I bet he does "distance diagnosis" and prescription writing...right doc? It's really just on me to get the bloodwork done... Wait a sec... Are you a narc?
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Posted: 10/27/2014 1:55:02 PM EDT
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But seriously, my normal test was at 200 or 220 about two years ago.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 2:05:10 PM EDT
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It's really just on me to get the bloodwork done... Wait a sec... Are you a narc? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish you were my doctor.
I bet he does "distance diagnosis" and prescription writing...right doc? It's really just on me to get the bloodwork done... Wait a sec... Are you a narc? Of course not. I think smoking the roids is cool and I've been doing it for years. 
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Posted: 10/27/2014 4:26:58 PM EDT
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Distance diagnosis? Nope. I'd require a face to face office visit and lab work to do so. ;)
220? That's almost female. lol. Look into clomid...
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Posted: 10/27/2014 5:36:42 PM EDT
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Clomid. For more than just PCT.
Longterm, low dose protocols for test boosting. |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 6:27:20 PM EDT
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So if it were legal and safe, with no or little risk of long term health repercussions, I'd take damn near anything. This is the correct answer. I struggled for several years with undiagnosed low testosterone and like most guys in this country, even though I'm being treated, it's inadequate to the point of medical malpractice. At one point my insurance refused to pay and I went weeks without any supplementation. I can honestly say those were the worst weeks of my life. I probably have a pretty good idea what a major depressive episode feels like after that. I did the IncreasemyT regimen until I got the insurance bit straightened out and went back to Androgel. A songwriter coined the term "......It's better to burn out than to fade away...." and after my unmedicated period...I've adopted that philosophy. If I had the financial means, I go whole hog at one of those anti-aging clinics and I'd be juiced to the gills.....with whatever is legal, effective and safe. When I was diagnosed, probably 6+ years ago, my T was 209. When I did the self-injections last year, 200mg/week for 10 weeks only got me into the 900's and I was just starting to "good". I shudder to think what my T was during those weeks I wasn't able to supplement. Probably double digit. |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 9:33:36 PM EDT
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But seriously, my normal test was at 200 or 220 about two years ago. Mine was 273 5 years ago. Do they not have T-Clinics in TNT? They advertise that on the radio now. |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 11:34:41 PM EDT
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I think when I went on TRT mine was 211. I was a fucking wreck. Somewhere around 250 I started loosing mental focus, and weight in the gym. I put it off for too damn long.
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