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Posted: 7/28/2012 1:02:30 PM
Maybe Smith6c can post more info but icing doesn't seem to be the greatest thing for healing. Healing is a three step process, reducing stage 1, inflamation, has been beleived to bring step 2 (repair) and 3 (remodel) into the process quicker. Now it looks like reduing step one leads to a reduced/innefficient step 2 and 3. Also Im not a beleiver in rest for muscular injuries, keep it functioning, give the blood vessels in the area a reason to open up, keep circulation up.
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Posted: 7/28/2012 1:15:52 PM
Originally Posted By Docsprague:
I been prepping for some upcoming training and had my leg slide out from under me on a 55 lbs ruck march due to some mud on the trail. It cause my leg to lock out and ever since then I had pain in the pit of my knee when I run. I know it feel like a muscle and not the joint. After a little research I believe it is the Popliteus muscle. Especially since that muscle has always been tight since I had ACL surgery several years ago. Anyone have any suggestions on taking care of this type of strain while still training? I am giving it a week off but I don't want to take off to much time because of the upcoming training. I have been doing the normal, RICE, and such but if anyone has any extra tips, I am all ears. Was the surgery reconstructive? What direction did your leg slide and end up at? Wheres the pain now and do you have ROM? |
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Posted: 7/28/2012 1:43:39 PM
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Originally Posted By smithc6:
Originally Posted By Docsprague:
I been prepping for some upcoming training and had my leg slide out from under me on a 55 lbs ruck march due to some mud on the trail. It cause my leg to lock out and ever since then I had pain in the pit of my knee when I run. I know it feel like a muscle and not the joint. After a little research I believe it is the Popliteus muscle. Especially since that muscle has always been tight since I had ACL surgery several years ago. Anyone have any suggestions on taking care of this type of strain while still training? I am giving it a week off but I don't want to take off to much time because of the upcoming training. I have been doing the normal, RICE, and such but if anyone has any extra tips, I am all ears. Was the surgery reconstructive? What direction did your leg slide and end up at? Wheres the pain now and do you have ROM? The surgery was reconstructive and was in 2006. Everything went back together pretty normal with the exception of my knee seeming tight. I ran and exercised before and have been running and exercise ever since. The new thing to my routine over the last several months has been the ruck marching and more running (frequency, distance has stayed the same). I believed the strain occurred when I slipped. I was placing the leg forward and it slide forward causing the leg to lock out. I caught it and did not go down. I finished the ruck and it did not bother me until after I finished. The pain is behind the knee in pit. If I push on the muscle there it is a little tender. It is most noticeable when running and pushing off of a step. I do have full ROM with almost no pain. There is a slight pain at full curl which I assume is just pressure on the muscle. I gave it approximately 3 days off and then ran with no problems. Once again after the run it started to bother me again. Now it is bothering me when I run, which I has stopped doing. |
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Posted: 7/28/2012 2:22:47 PM
[Last Edit: 7/28/2012 2:27:55 PM by smithc6]
Originally Posted By Docsprague:
Originally Posted By smithc6:
Originally Posted By Docsprague:
I been prepping for some upcoming training and had my leg slide out from under me on a 55 lbs ruck march due to some mud on the trail. It cause my leg to lock out and ever since then I had pain in the pit of my knee when I run. I know it feel like a muscle and not the joint. After a little research I believe it is the Popliteus muscle. Especially since that muscle has always been tight since I had ACL surgery several years ago. Anyone have any suggestions on taking care of this type of strain while still training? I am giving it a week off but I don't want to take off to much time because of the upcoming training. I have been doing the normal, RICE, and such but if anyone has any extra tips, I am all ears. Was the surgery reconstructive? What direction did your leg slide and end up at? Wheres the pain now and do you have ROM? The surgery was reconstructive and was in 2006. Everything went back together pretty normal with the exception of my knee seeming tight. I ran and exercised before and have been running and exercise ever since. The new thing to my routine over the last several months has been the ruck marching and more running (frequency, distance has stayed the same). I believed the strain occurred when I slipped. I was placing the leg forward and it slide forward causing the leg to lock out. I caught it and did not go down. I finished the ruck and it did not bother me until after I finished. The pain is behind the knee in pit. If I push on the muscle there it is a little tender. It is most noticeable when running and pushing off of a step. I do have full ROM with almost no pain. There is a slight pain at full curl which I assume is just pressure on the muscle. I gave it approximately 3 days off and then ran with no problems. Once again after the run it started to bother me again. Now it is bothering me when I run, which I has stopped doing. What do you mean by pushing off a step? The toe off of a walk? Or actually going up and down steps? Popliteal would be aggravated at full extension not full flexion. With the location of the pain from what youre describing Id think it was more of a posterior joint capsule issue or a lower hamstring issue. (unless you were trying to describe extension not flexion) Id recommend seeing your ortho again if its still bothering after a week of rest... |
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Posted: 7/28/2012 5:36:39 PM
Originally Posted By smithc6:
What do you mean by pushing off a step? The toe off of a walk? Or actually going up and down steps? Popliteal would be aggravated at full extension not full flexion. With the location of the pain from what youre describing Id think it was more of a posterior joint capsule issue or a lower hamstring issue. (unless you were trying to describe extension not flexion) Id recommend seeing your ortho again if its still bothering after a week of rest... It hurts at the end of the stride when you roll on the ball of the foot toward the toe and push off. I can curl the leg with no pain which leads me to believe it is not the hamstring. |
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Posted: 7/28/2012 6:10:35 PM
Originally Posted By Docsprague:
Originally Posted By smithc6:
What do you mean by pushing off a step? The toe off of a walk? Or actually going up and down steps? Popliteal would be aggravated at full extension not full flexion. With the location of the pain from what youre describing Id think it was more of a posterior joint capsule issue or a lower hamstring issue. (unless you were trying to describe extension not flexion) Id recommend seeing your ortho again if its still bothering after a week of rest... It hurts at the end of the stride when you roll on the ball of the foot toward the toe and push off. I can curl the leg with no pain which leads me to believe it is not the hamstring. Lay on your front on a bench, have someone put a towel around your heel and pull down on the leg, then curl your leg and let me know if theres any pain. |
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Posted: 7/29/2012 10:46:30 AM
Originally Posted By smithc6:
Lay on your front on a bench, have someone put a towel around your heel and pull down on the leg, then curl your leg and let me know if theres any pain. No pain curling the leg with the resistance. |
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