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Posted: 4/20/2012 9:11:24 PM

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Starts in my foot and my toes go crazy. Pain is all the way up my leg. Pain bad enough I'm crying and and want to throw up. It lasts about 30 min. Thats 30 min of me suddenly crying and grabbing onto something then it slacking off. It feels like someone is slowing trying to break my foot.

Had blood work done Wednesday and everything was normal.
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Posted: 4/20/2012 9:20:48 PM
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If there are no provoking factors, nothing that you can attribute the cramping to, etc... then it should be looked into––> Go to a neurologist if it's a major concern.


I'd consider some magnesium glycinate (at walmart or w/e is cheap)... and a B complex vitamin... they might help if you're adverse to going to a doctor...


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W/O knowing you, your history, etc I can't give real medical advice, but only some suggestions.

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Posted: 4/20/2012 9:22:20 PM
http://www.hammernutrition.com/products/endurolytes.elt.html?navcat=fuels-energy-drinks

This is what I use, when i get cramps.
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Posted: 4/20/2012 9:25:52 PM

Originally Posted By darktide:

If there are no provoking factors, nothing that you can attribute the cramping to, etc... then it should be looked into––> Go to a neurologist if it's a major concern.


I'd consider some magnesium glycinate (at walmart or w/e is cheap)... and a B complex vitamin... they might help if you're adverse to going to a doctor...


Covering my ass:

W/O knowing you, your history, etc I can't give real medical advice, but only some suggestions.

ETA: Anyone who comes in here and says "eat a banana." you should kick in the junk.

Going to go kick the hubby in the junk....

J/K... I will start on some vitamins and see where that takes me. Was at the doctor this week and blood looked normal.
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Posted: 4/20/2012 9:26:15 PM

Originally Posted By AR_10_308:
http://www.hammernutrition.com/products/endurolytes.elt.html?navcat=fuels-energy-drinks

This is what I use, when i get cramps.

Drinking gaterade now.
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Posted: 4/20/2012 9:42:35 PM
these are a million times better and no calories. when i'm cycling and start cramping i take 3 and the cramping goes away. you will have to drink gallons of the sport drink trash to get near the return of these. at least that's my experience
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Posted: 4/20/2012 10:05:13 PM
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Sounds like a mineral deficiency. Try bananas and oranges for potassium. Be careful-too much is not good.[img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif[/imgETA Junk will shoot back;-)]
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Posted: 4/21/2012 12:30:36 AM
Lots of water and bananas
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Posted: 4/21/2012 1:08:29 AM
I get some bad cramps at night sometimes, but it's usually after being dehydrated during the day.
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Drinking water is part of the problem I'm sure. I know I don't get enough
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Posted: 4/21/2012 12:36:59 PM
Originally Posted By AR_10_308:
these are a million times better and no calories. when i'm cycling and start cramping i take 3 and the cramping goes away. you will have to drink gallons of the sport drink trash to get near the return of these. at least that's my experience


You'd probably do better with the calories. Even if you believe that electrolyte deficiency causes cramping, Endurolytes suck. 8oz of Gatorade mixed from powder provides ~ twice the sodium and potassium of 3 Endurolyte tablets. About 6 years ago, Hammer cut the electrolyte dose in each tablet in about half - price stayed the same though. I haven't tried a Hammer product I like yet. Heed is vomitous and Hammer gels aren't much better.

OP - are you getting exercise-related cramping or just random muscle spasms?

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Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Originally Posted By AR_10_308:
these are a million times better and no calories. when i'm cycling and start cramping i take 3 and the cramping goes away. you will have to drink gallons of the sport drink trash to get near the return of these. at least that's my experience


You'd probably do better with the calories. Even if you believe that electrolyte deficiency causes cramping, Endurolytes suck. 8oz of Gatorade mixed from powder provides ~ twice the sodium and potassium of 3 Endurolyte tablets. About 6 years ago, Hammer cut the electrolyte dose in each tablet in about half - price stayed the same though. I haven't tried a Hammer product I like yet. Heed is vomitous and Hammer gels aren't much better.

OP - are you getting exercise-related cramping or just random muscle spasms?


They are random. I don't have to exercise or not exercise. I don't have to do anything. Just sitting in bed they will start randomly
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Posted: 4/21/2012 4:09:19 PM
Originally Posted By SpeechPathJunkie:

Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Originally Posted By AR_10_308:
these are a million times better and no calories. when i'm cycling and start cramping i take 3 and the cramping goes away. you will have to drink gallons of the sport drink trash to get near the return of these. at least that's my experience


You'd probably do better with the calories. Even if you believe that electrolyte deficiency causes cramping, Endurolytes suck. 8oz of Gatorade mixed from powder provides ~ twice the sodium and potassium of 3 Endurolyte tablets. About 6 years ago, Hammer cut the electrolyte dose in each tablet in about half - price stayed the same though. I haven't tried a Hammer product I like yet. Heed is vomitous and Hammer gels aren't much better.

OP - are you getting exercise-related cramping or just random muscle spasms?


They are random. I don't have to exercise or not exercise. I don't have to do anything. Just sitting in bed they will start randomly


This exact thing happens to my wife on occasion. Cramping in the foot to the point of her whining in agony. One question I have is are you on birth control? If so what kind?
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Posted: 4/21/2012 8:16:19 PM

Originally Posted By smithc6:
Originally Posted By SpeechPathJunkie:

Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Originally Posted By AR_10_308:
these are a million times better and no calories. when i'm cycling and start cramping i take 3 and the cramping goes away. you will have to drink gallons of the sport drink trash to get near the return of these. at least that's my experience


You'd probably do better with the calories. Even if you believe that electrolyte deficiency causes cramping, Endurolytes suck. 8oz of Gatorade mixed from powder provides ~ twice the sodium and potassium of 3 Endurolyte tablets. About 6 years ago, Hammer cut the electrolyte dose in each tablet in about half - price stayed the same though. I haven't tried a Hammer product I like yet. Heed is vomitous and Hammer gels aren't much better.

OP - are you getting exercise-related cramping or just random muscle spasms?


They are random. I don't have to exercise or not exercise. I don't have to do anything. Just sitting in bed they will start randomly


This exact thing happens to my wife on occasion. Cramping in the foot to the point of her whining in agony. One question I have is are you on birth control? If so what kind?

Yes, on the pill. I've been on the same one for years.
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Posted: 4/22/2012 11:03:46 AM
Originally Posted By SpeechPathJunkie:

Originally Posted By smithc6:
Originally Posted By SpeechPathJunkie:

Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Originally Posted By AR_10_308:
these are a million times better and no calories. when i'm cycling and start cramping i take 3 and the cramping goes away. you will have to drink gallons of the sport drink trash to get near the return of these. at least that's my experience


You'd probably do better with the calories. Even if you believe that electrolyte deficiency causes cramping, Endurolytes suck. 8oz of Gatorade mixed from powder provides ~ twice the sodium and potassium of 3 Endurolyte tablets. About 6 years ago, Hammer cut the electrolyte dose in each tablet in about half - price stayed the same though. I haven't tried a Hammer product I like yet. Heed is vomitous and Hammer gels aren't much better.

OP - are you getting exercise-related cramping or just random muscle spasms?


They are random. I don't have to exercise or not exercise. I don't have to do anything. Just sitting in bed they will start randomly


This exact thing happens to my wife on occasion. Cramping in the foot to the point of her whining in agony. One question I have is are you on birth control? If so what kind?

Yes, on the pill. I've been on the same one for years.


Usually the pill helps retain potassium. Whether its in the tissue or the blood I dont know. Maybe an excess of potassium could cause an issue with cramping? Darktide, ever heard anything like this?
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Posted: 4/22/2012 12:45:49 PM

Originally Posted By smithc6:
Originally Posted By SpeechPathJunkie:

Originally Posted By smithc6:
Originally Posted By SpeechPathJunkie:

Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Originally Posted By AR_10_308:
these are a million times better and no calories. when i'm cycling and start cramping i take 3 and the cramping goes away. you will have to drink gallons of the sport drink trash to get near the return of these. at least that's my experience


You'd probably do better with the calories. Even if you believe that electrolyte deficiency causes cramping, Endurolytes suck. 8oz of Gatorade mixed from powder provides ~ twice the sodium and potassium of 3 Endurolyte tablets. About 6 years ago, Hammer cut the electrolyte dose in each tablet in about half - price stayed the same though. I haven't tried a Hammer product I like yet. Heed is vomitous and Hammer gels aren't much better.

OP - are you getting exercise-related cramping or just random muscle spasms?


They are random. I don't have to exercise or not exercise. I don't have to do anything. Just sitting in bed they will start randomly


This exact thing happens to my wife on occasion. Cramping in the foot to the point of her whining in agony. One question I have is are you on birth control? If so what kind?

Yes, on the pill. I've been on the same one for years.


Usually the pill helps retain potassium. Whether its in the tissue or the blood I dont know. Maybe an excess of potassium could cause an issue with cramping? Darktide, ever heard anything like this?

Never heard of it. I've been on the same pill for years. I've always gotten muscle cramps. But in the past weeks, they have gotten very severe.
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Posted: 4/22/2012 12:54:11 PM
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Drink more water or koolaid.

And, OP, I learned a trick years ago to stopping foot cramps in progress.

Foot cramps seem to be a biofeedback loop. Your mind tells a foot muscle to contract, which causes a sensation that's communicated to your mind, triggering another message to contract, etc. Just like feedback hum in a microphone.

So, the trick is to break that loop by sending an overriding message from somewhere else.

And, for some reason, pinching the area between your upper lip and your nose accomplishes just that.

So the next time your foot starts to cramp up, pinch that area of skin right under your nose as hard as you can. After a few seconds, the foot cramp should start to gradually diminish.

(You can google this to see that I'm not just making it up.)
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In clinic, patients that have bad cramping like the OP we generally will do a needle EMG, (and maybe imaging) if its been going on for a while to rule out any major neurological issue.

For symptomatic patients, we suggest Magnesium (not overly supported by literature, but does work for some patients), B vitamins (supported by literature pretty well) as first line treatments.

If these fail, and the problem persists, we will then start someone on an Rx for a calcium channel blocker... which usually works when the others fail..

Hydration?... might help, but I don't know one way or the other.
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Posted: 4/22/2012 1:44:06 PM
Originally Posted By darktide:
In clinic, patients that have bad cramping like the OP we generally will do a needle EMG, (and maybe imaging) if its been going on for a while to rule out any major neurological issue.

For symptomatic patients, we suggest Magnesium (not overly supported by literature, but does work for some patients), B vitamins (supported by literature pretty well) as first line treatments.

If these fail, and the problem persists, we will then start someone on an Rx for a calcium channel blocker... which usually works when the others fail..

Hydration?... might help, but I don't know one way or the other.


Cool, thanks for the insight.
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