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Posted: 2/23/2012 9:02:29 PM
Originally Posted By Ytka:
I'm still in physical therapy for my shoulder, so my upper body work is on the back burner for now. The good news is I'm down to 211 from 226 at the beginning of the challenge. I actually started working on losing weight on Jan 2nd at 233. I've started some leg workouts and did squats with free weights for the first time yesterday. I've been lifting on and off for years, but never did much with free weights. I've also been walking at least a mile 5 days per week. 3 of those days I walk at least 3 miles. Tomorrow, I'm doing a cardiac risk profile at work and I'm really interested to see what my cholesterol levels look like. might take the results with a grain of salt. At work they started doing wellness checks last year. 5 years ago my cardiologist told me 140/XX was very early stages of high blood pressure. At the wellness check last year they now said 120/xx was 'high'. i think the cholesterol numbers shifted too. Also, if you have any muscle tone at all, plan on getting hosed on the BMI. i'm pretty lean at 230 lb, and got big red flags for my BMI. Good luck, and good thing you're looking at the real numbers, just be cautious of how someone else might interpret those numbers. |
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Posted: 2/23/2012 10:00:45 PM
[Last Edit: 2/23/2012 10:01:56 PM by Ytka]
Originally Posted By axesar: might take the results with a grain of salt. At work they started doing wellness checks last year. 5 years ago my cardiologist told me 140/XX was very early stages of high blood pressure. At the wellness check last year they now said 120/xx was 'high'. i think the cholesterol numbers shifted too. Also, if you have any muscle tone at all, plan on getting hosed on the BMI. i'm pretty lean at 230 lb, and got big red flags for my BMI. Good luck, and good thing you're looking at the real numbers, just be cautious of how someone else might interpret those numbers. I'm not really concerned with what the numbers are, just whether they've changed. My blood pressure has always been great. It's my cholesterol levels that I'm curious about. I know I'm screwed on the BMI. Anything over ~165 is considered overweight for 5'10". I cut to 165 once when I was 19 and looked like an AIDS patient. My girlfriend (wife now) started bringing cake to my room in the barracks pretty much every day. I've put on some muscle and am just bigger overall now, so 165 is a no go. |
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Posted: 2/26/2012 12:00:47 AM
Guess what ? we are a 1/3 of the way there. 4 weeks gone. That went quick. Been doing good, only got 5 workouts in this week and just devastated a box of girl scout cookies one night
 friggin carmel delights got me. back on the wagon now.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 12:11:48 AM
Originally Posted By joeil: Guess what ? we are a 1/3 of the way there. 4 weeks gone. That went quick. Been doing good, only got 5 workouts in this week and just devastated a box of girl scout cookies one night friggin carmel delights got me. back on the wagon now. and you?? Little bump in sugar and carbs won't kill you. Lots (myself included) think that an occasional blood sugar spike and high calorie meal will help kickstart the metabolism. I've been back on track for about 2 weeks since I bulged a disc in my low back. But I'm on track with my numbers and happy with my results so far. Gotten a few comments already that I look like I've lost weight.
Hope everybody else is doing well. |
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Posted: 2/26/2012 7:59:59 AM
Originally Posted By Laramie:
Little bump in sugar and carbs won't kill you. Lots (myself included) think that an occasional blood sugar spike and high calorie meal will help kickstart the metabolism. I've been back on track for about 2 weeks since I bulged a disc in my low back. But I'm on track with my numbers and happy with my results so far. Gotten a few comments already that I look like I've lost weight. Hope everybody else is doing well. i used to do the program that allowed a 24-36 hr 'splurge' period once per week. it was enough to let you feel like you weren't 'dieting' w/o messing up your system and progress. what i found over the years is one splurge meal every 3-4 days was ok for me. i'd actually wake up hungrier the next day, which leads me to believe what you say above about that high cal meal kickstarting your metabolism now and then. |
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Posted: 2/26/2012 11:28:55 PM
Originally Posted By axesar: Originally Posted By Laramie: Little bump in sugar and carbs won't kill you. Lots (myself included) think that an occasional blood sugar spike and high calorie meal will help kickstart the metabolism. I've been back on track for about 2 weeks since I bulged a disc in my low back. But I'm on track with my numbers and happy with my results so far. Gotten a few comments already that I look like I've lost weight.
Hope everybody else is doing well. i used to do the program that allowed a 24-36 hr 'splurge' period once per week. it was enough to let you feel like you weren't 'dieting' w/o messing up your system and progress. what i found over the years is one splurge meal every 3-4 days was ok for me. i'd actually wake up hungrier the next day, which leads me to believe what you say above about that high cal meal kickstarting your metabolism now and then. Tim Ferriss's slow carb diet? |
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Posted: 2/27/2012 7:06:36 AM
could be. never heard that name though, doesn't ring a bell.
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Posted: 3/15/2012 9:19:47 AM
It is finally spring time in Ohio. I ended up intending on a mile walk yesterday and ended up going 8 miles. I don't intend to do many of those walks but 2 or 3 miles seems like an excellent idea. Walking tends to be such a mental relief for me. I am taking a break from intermittent fasting for a week. I feel like it is pretty effective for me, but it is something I think I need to cycle on and off.
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Posted: 3/15/2012 7:56:44 PM
intermittent fasting? most would recommend slow amounts of food more often a day to keep insulin levels as flat line as possible.
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Posted: 3/15/2012 8:12:58 PM
[Last Edit: 3/15/2012 8:24:54 PM by MrKasab]
Leangains.com is a site dedicated to intermittent fasting. I like the fact that it really doesn't require any thought and besides a little bit of hunger doesn't interfer with my normal life. But I don't think it is something I can do without regular breaks.
http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/training-articles/fast-tips-for-intermittent-fasting/ Here is one article on it. I admit I didn't get past the line on cleansing toxins from the body, that tends to set off my BS alarm. |
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Posted: 3/16/2012 6:19:12 AM
Originally Posted By MrKasab:
Leangains.com is a site dedicated to intermittent fasting. I like the fact that it really doesn't require any thought and besides a little bit of hunger doesn't interfer with my normal life. But I don't think it is something I can do without regular breaks. http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/training-articles/fast-tips-for-intermittent-fasting/ Here is one article on it. I admit I didn't get past the line on cleansing toxins from the body, that tends to set off my BS alarm. I got halfway through the first paragraph when my alarm went off with, "They fasted, not by choice but by necessity. This may help to explain why mankind can store and metabolize fat effectively." He makes an argument against it right there pointing out that fasting leads to fat storage. My sister who believes in paying $17 for an organic chicken or 3 times extra for organic eggs  tells me fasting once per year is a good way to cleanse toxins. Simple English, fasting or more effectively a salad shooter diet helps purge your intestines from all the mat'l that builds up in them. i don't do this, but i see why someone might. years of eating red meat causes build up and makes flat abs tough.
when i got sick a few weeks ago and didn't eat for several days, i did lose about 14 #, some was fat, but some muscle too. When i had heart surgery, i didn't eat for a month, and lost 40 lb, ALL MUSCLE. my gut was still there. Like sis said, when you get zero food, your body tries to store fat, because at that time i didn't need the muscle, as i wasn't lifting hard or anything. Weight management and avoiding diabetes is all about maintaining constant insulin levels, lots of small meals, eating WHEN hungry UNTIL satisfied, and no more. That also helps your body tell you what it craves/needs. Like the article says, not having food will tell the body, "hey, this person will take in no food, and still burn calories, so next time he does eat, i better store more fat so i have energy." Whereas if you always have a little food in you, it'll say, "i don't need to store much fat, this person always feeds me and i always have energy." Just my $0.02 and i'm no Arnie, but i would really think twice about this method for fat loss. Here's the basics i follow for my routine in case it's helpful. You can skip the first 28 sec book ad to get to the educational stuff. |
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Posted: 3/16/2012 7:00:21 AM
I think what he is saying about storing fat is the guys who were more effective in storing fat were more likely to survive a food shortage than those that weren't. Human physiology is far greater shaped by undereating than it is overeating.
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Posted: 3/16/2012 7:11:45 AM
in context with his caveman analogy, i can see that, and i agree overeating is extremely bad, but personally i probably won't try it. I just remember hearing stories as a kid about how guys that fasted for wrestling had a helluva time losing weight later in life. that said, if it's something that does seem to work for you though, more power to you. Every body is different, and the ends justify the means, right?
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Posted: 3/24/2012 6:24:38 PM
[Last Edit: 3/24/2012 6:26:49 PM by whiterye]
Tweaked my back last Friday during my warmup sets of deadlifts. Rehabbed it by resting up all weekend and aggressive stretching. Monday morning, I had a PT test, and got to see how my training was coming along. Back was still stiff, but still managed to hit 72/75 pushups, 80/80 situps, and ran 2 miles in 14:14. My goals before the end of this transformation are: 75 PU, 85 SU, and 14:30 2 mile run.
Already beat the run time goal, and stopped situps once I'd hit max with a few seconds to spare. Still need to work on pushups - chest gave out after 72. My gym goals will probably not be met, because I'll be in the field this week and then begin PCSing the week after that. Bummer. Instead, I'll focus more on shaving time off my run, and try to break into the mid to high 13's. We'll see. |
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Posted: 3/24/2012 6:42:49 PM
good move on stretching out that back and nice work on the test. i could probably do the situps, but the chances of me doing 72 pushups or running 2 miles, let alone in barely over 14 minutes is as good as a one-legged man in an a$$-kicking contest.
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Posted: 3/24/2012 10:23:54 PM
Originally Posted By axesar: Originally Posted By MrKasab: Leangains.com is a site dedicated to intermittent fasting. I like the fact that it really doesn't require any thought and besides a little bit of hunger doesn't interfer with my normal life. But I don't think it is something I can do without regular breaks. http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/training-articles/fast-tips-for-intermittent-fasting/ Here is one article on it. I admit I didn't get past the line on cleansing toxins from the body, that tends to set off my BS alarm. I got halfway through the first paragraph when my alarm went off with, "They fasted, not by choice but by necessity. This may help to explain why mankind can store and metabolize fat effectively." He makes an argument against it right there pointing out that fasting leads to fat storage. My sister who believes in paying $17 for an organic chicken or 3 times extra for organic eggs tells me fasting once per year is a good way to cleanse toxins. Simple English, fasting or more effectively a salad shooter diet helps purge your intestines from all the mat'l that builds up in them. i don't do this, but i see why someone might. years of eating red meat causes build up and makes flat abs tough.when i got sick a few weeks ago and didn't eat for several days, i did lose about 14 #, some was fat, but some muscle too. When i had heart surgery, i didn't eat for a month, and lost 40 lb, ALL MUSCLE. my gut was still there. Like sis said, when you get zero food, your body tries to store fat, because at that time i didn't need the muscle, as i wasn't lifting hard or anything. Weight management and avoiding diabetes is all about maintaining constant insulin levels, lots of small meals, eating WHEN hungry UNTIL satisfied, and no more. That also helps your body tell you what it craves/needs. Like the article says, not having food will tell the body, "hey, this person will take in no food, and still burn calories, so next time he does eat, i better store more fat so i have energy." Whereas if you always have a little food in you, it'll say, "i don't need to store much fat, this person always feeds me and i always have energy." Just my $0.02 and i'm no Arnie, but i would really think twice about this method for fat loss. Here's the basics i follow for my routine in case it's helpful. You can skip the first 28 sec book ad to get to the educational stuff.  http://youtu.be/9esn7giffPkI agree with you. I have a hard time agreeing w/ the fasting and all the studies I read online seem to be contradicted or just go against what has always worked for me. At the end of the day, I'll do what works for me but if it works for other people, I have no problem with that. Different things work for different people. |
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Posted: 3/24/2012 11:01:47 PM
Originally Posted By donne3:
Originally Posted By raven:
Um, I seem to be gaining weight. Up 8 lbs. I have problems getting into the driver's seat of my car, my quads are huge and my steering wheel doesn't adjust. up in weight is ok - watch the body composition, and make sure you're getting enough water. (and there are SO many worse things than huge quads.  )Oh, the horror |
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Posted: 3/25/2012 12:26:58 AM
Originally Posted By XCRmonger:
Originally Posted By donne3: Originally Posted By raven: Um, I seem to be gaining weight. Up 8 lbs. I have problems getting into the driver's seat of my car, my quads are huge and my steering wheel doesn't adjust. up in weight is ok - watch the body composition, and make sure you're getting enough water. (and there are SO many worse things than huge quads. )Oh, the horror |
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Posted: 3/25/2012 1:21:20 AM
Originally Posted By XCRmonger: Originally Posted By donne3: Originally Posted By raven: Um, I seem to be gaining weight. Up 8 lbs. I have problems getting into the driver's seat of my car, my quads are huge and my steering wheel doesn't adjust. up in weight is ok - watch the body composition, and make sure you're getting enough water. (and there are SO many worse things than huge quads. )Oh, the horror oh baby Now I know how to flex in the "after" pics. |
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Posted: 3/25/2012 6:57:53 AM
I would in no way say i have huge quads, but i know the last time i had to increase waist-size again on clothes wasn't because of the waist, but my a$$. i've been doing more intense leg workouts (squats, deadlifts, hip sled) and putting some meat on them, which is good of course. I'm using shoulder width toes forward position to maximize use of quads over hips (compared to super wide and feet out which uses more hips and allows heavier lifts), but size gain is expected and still not out of proportion.
at any rate last time i looked for dress pants, seems like everything's made for anorexics, crack heads, or little justin bieber stick figures. not sure if it was more irritating to suffocate my legs in them, or realize later that "stylish" meant in fine print "low rise" for enhanced plumber effect while i'm riding the motorcycle and making it about impossible to carry at 4 oclock. I had to pick up a suit for a trip i may take to an overseas base and that was a nightmare. had to special order 'tailor' cut which was more of a tapered jacket. then they had to take it in more, then when it still looked fat on me, i had to tell the manager to either refund the $ and make us both mad or just authorize the tailor to do the fancier mods to get it to fit right. Mind you i'm not built like arnie or anything, more what i used to consider an average build, but the world of clothes sure seems made for fat or skinny and not much between. 
on a positive, the tailor said she can put ballistic cotton in carry points, so may pick up a jacket down the road made that way for going out instead of being paranoid about it showing through my shirt all night.  |
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Posted: 3/25/2012 9:53:22 AM
Originally Posted By axesar:
I had to pick up a suit for a trip i may take to an overseas base and that was a nightmare. had to special order 'tailor' cut which was more of a tapered jacket. then they had to take it in more, then when it still looked fat on me, i had to tell the manager to either refund the $ and make us both mad or just authorize the tailor to do the fancier mods to get it to fit right. Mind you i'm not built like arnie or anything, more what i used to consider an average build, but the world of clothes sure seems made for fat or skinny and not much between.
Trying to fit into suites is a nightmare for anyone who works out. If the neck fits, the shirt's huge in the stomach. If the shoulders are wide enough to fit in the jacket, same deal - the cut of the stomach sticks far out, making you look fat. A tailor can only take so much in. Custom tailored suites? Not for me. Not yet, anyways. My solution's been to not dress up, unless I have to, haha. |
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Posted: 3/25/2012 11:20:03 AM
Originally Posted By whiterye:
My solution's been to not dress up, unless I have to, haha. that's been my solution as much as possible too. i bought one suit in 93 for internship interviews, another in 01 for a DoD conference i had to present, which got worn to my court appearances for my Illinois swim stunt, and now need another one because i still put on just enough size i can't fit in the old ones. |
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Posted: 3/25/2012 11:38:26 AM
Originally Posted By whiterye: Originally Posted By axesar: I had to pick up a suit for a trip i may take to an overseas base and that was a nightmare. had to special order 'tailor' cut which was more of a tapered jacket. then they had to take it in more, then when it still looked fat on me, i had to tell the manager to either refund the $ and make us both mad or just authorize the tailor to do the fancier mods to get it to fit right. Mind you i'm not built like arnie or anything, more what i used to consider an average build, but the world of clothes sure seems made for fat or skinny and not much between. Trying to fit into suites is a nightmare for anyone who works out. If the neck fits, the shirt's huge in the stomach. If the shoulders are wide enough to fit in the jacket, same deal - the cut of the stomach sticks far out, making you look fat. A tailor can only take so much in. Custom tailored suites? Not for me. Not yet, anyways. My solution's been to not dress up, unless I have to, haha. I have always had that problem with button down shirts, so I never wear them. I look like I'm about 50lbs heavier if I wear a button down. I've taken to wearing a tank top and leaving the button down open as a cover shirt though. Fitted shirts suit me much better.  |
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Posted: 3/25/2012 9:54:48 PM
Just hit a new squat PR today. 315x5@172, previously 315x3@185.
Pretty fired up about that, especially because I'm on a cut. |
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Posted: 3/27/2012 2:42:58 PM
[Last Edit: 3/27/2012 3:20:29 PM by MrKasab]
I hit another milestone today. I was squatting and thought my belt was too loose so I tightened it up a notch. Thats when I realized I had never used that hole for squats in years. My stomach diameter is likely an inch more than when I bought the belt in 2008. Not bad considering at one point I decided to drill an additional hole in it rather than buy a bigger one.
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