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Link Posted: 6/21/2016 9:43:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:


Now, the guys here who do Oly may disagree, but I think of squatting in weightlifting shoes as a bandaid for people without enough mobility to squat without them. If someone needs them or likes them for squatting, that's fine. But if you have enough mobility to squat without out them I think they are unnecessary.

If your shoulder mobility is keeping you from squatting heavy you can try using lifting straps to basically make the bar a safety bar. I found the picture below to kind of show what I am talking about. That way you can move forward until your shoulders get to where you want them.

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Originally Posted By MeatBag:
Screwed around with low bar squats at the end of my session. Discovered that flat shoes feel way better with low bar than my weightlifting shoes do. I was getting noticeably more glute and hamstring activation. Did some easy-ish sets with 200 and it didn't aggravate my elbow at all. Maybe if I hammer some light weight volume to get the form down and really work on my shoulder mobility, I can get back to heavy weights without fucking up my elbow. Maybe.


Now, the guys here who do Oly may disagree, but I think of squatting in weightlifting shoes as a bandaid for people without enough mobility to squat without them. If someone needs them or likes them for squatting, that's fine. But if you have enough mobility to squat without out them I think they are unnecessary.

If your shoulder mobility is keeping you from squatting heavy you can try using lifting straps to basically make the bar a safety bar. I found the picture below to kind of show what I am talking about. That way you can move forward until your shoulders get to where you want them.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ksSHElw7D18/hqdefault.jpg



Typically low bar squat is done without lifting shoes.

If you oly lift though, you should be high bar squatting. If you're an oly lifter high bar squatting without lifting shoes you're a dumbass.  It's not a band aide, it's making sure your lifting translates better to your sport.
Link Posted: 6/21/2016 10:12:21 AM EDT
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I started high bar, switched to low then back to high.  I also squat with or without flat shoes, with or without lifting shoes.  It just depends, I've got enough mobility to squat high bar barefoot, but I am far more stable in my Romaleos.  I'm sure if I found some lifting shoes that provided a nice stable platform like the Roma's without being elevated I'd still be fine in them.  Its stability as much or more than the elevation on the heel for me.  Even my new Nanos aren't as stable for me, but they're close.  I squat in them a lot now.

Low bar is great for the occasional heavy lift but it is pretty uncomfortable on my shoulders and arms.  High bar seems to work the quads and core more too, so that's a better lift for me.  

Link Posted: 6/21/2016 10:13:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/21/2016 10:17:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:



Typically low bar squat is done without lifting shoes.

If you oly lift though, you should be high bar squatting. If you're an oly lifter high bar squatting without lifting shoes you're a dumbass.  It's not a band aide, it's making sure your lifting translates better to your sport.
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Originally Posted By MeatBag:
Screwed around with low bar squats at the end of my session. Discovered that flat shoes feel way better with low bar than my weightlifting shoes do. I was getting noticeably more glute and hamstring activation. Did some easy-ish sets with 200 and it didn't aggravate my elbow at all. Maybe if I hammer some light weight volume to get the form down and really work on my shoulder mobility, I can get back to heavy weights without fucking up my elbow. Maybe.


Now, the guys here who do Oly may disagree, but I think of squatting in weightlifting shoes as a bandaid for people without enough mobility to squat without them. If someone needs them or likes them for squatting, that's fine. But if you have enough mobility to squat without out them I think they are unnecessary.

If your shoulder mobility is keeping you from squatting heavy you can try using lifting straps to basically make the bar a safety bar. I found the picture below to kind of show what I am talking about. That way you can move forward until your shoulders get to where you want them.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ksSHElw7D18/hqdefault.jpg



Typically low bar squat is done without lifting shoes.

If you oly lift though, you should be high bar squatting. If you're an oly lifter high bar squatting without lifting shoes you're a dumbass.  It's not a band aide, it's making sure your lifting translates better to your sport.


And that is why I made sure to put the part in about oly guys. Because I knew I didn't have the whole story on that end.

I have always had great ankle mobility, but my shoulder mobility isn't the best. So I am not quite high bar or low bar but prefer flat shoes.
Link Posted: 6/21/2016 1:48:58 PM EDT
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I had a trial scheduled for today, but my client shot himself in the hand with an AR.
Link Posted: 6/21/2016 1:51:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/21/2016 1:54:42 PM EDT
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You sure come in here with a lot of sad stories.  

Serious question-  Is meth a big problem in your area?  I'm finding that even in rural mormon Utah it's a huge problem.  Pretty much all the drama is compounded by meth.



ETA- just noticed that said HAND not HEAD....  That's a lot better.  Accident?
Link Posted: 6/21/2016 1:57:55 PM EDT
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How the fuck do you do that?

Link Posted: 6/21/2016 2:07:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SCW:


You sure come in here with a lot of sad stories.  

Serious question-  Is meth a big problem in your area?  I'm finding that even in rural mormon Utah it's a huge problem.  Pretty much all the drama is compounded by meth.



ETA- just noticed that said HAND not HEAD....  That's a lot better.  Accident?
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Originally Posted By SCW:
Originally Posted By LawyerUp:
I had a trial scheduled for today, but my client shot himself in the hand with an AR.


You sure come in here with a lot of sad stories.  

Serious question-  Is meth a big problem in your area?  I'm finding that even in rural mormon Utah it's a huge problem.  Pretty much all the drama is compounded by meth.



ETA- just noticed that said HAND not HEAD....  That's a lot better.  Accident?


Apparently another shooter had a stuck round and they were fiddling with it I guess, thinking it was just a casing and the hand was in the wrong spot.

Regarding meth, not that I know of.  I'm hearing more about heroin now from the detroit area.  Black dudes who are straight up killers.  Not just here, but down through VA and NC as well.  At least they'd stick out in my area.  My area is probably the nicest area of WV.  Just cattle farming mostly.  No coal mines.  I'm sure the coal areas are full of meth, among other things.
Link Posted: 6/21/2016 2:08:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LawyerUp:


Apparently another shooter had a stuck round and they were fiddling with it I guess, thinking it was just a casing and the hand was in the wrong spot.

Regarding meth, not that I know of.  I'm hearing more about heroin now from the detroit area.  Black dudes who are straight up killers.  Not just here, but down through VA and NC as well.  At least they'd stick out in my area.  My area is probably the nicest area of WV.  Just cattle farming mostly.  No coal mines.  I'm sure the coal areas are full of meth, among other things.
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Originally Posted By LawyerUp:
Originally Posted By SCW:
Originally Posted By LawyerUp:
I had a trial scheduled for today, but my client shot himself in the hand with an AR.


You sure come in here with a lot of sad stories.  

Serious question-  Is meth a big problem in your area?  I'm finding that even in rural mormon Utah it's a huge problem.  Pretty much all the drama is compounded by meth.

ETA- just noticed that said HAND not HEAD....  That's a lot better.  Accident?


Apparently another shooter had a stuck round and they were fiddling with it I guess, thinking it was just a casing and the hand was in the wrong spot.

Regarding meth, not that I know of.  I'm hearing more about heroin now from the detroit area.  Black dudes who are straight up killers.  Not just here, but down through VA and NC as well.  At least they'd stick out in my area.  My area is probably the nicest area of WV.  Just cattle farming mostly.  No coal mines.  I'm sure the coal areas are full of meth, among other things.


That's why I like CA. There are no drugs here.
Link Posted: 6/21/2016 4:31:54 PM EDT
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Screen name?

Link Posted: 6/21/2016 4:33:04 PM EDT
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Screen name?

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Originally Posted By LawyerUp:
I had a trial scheduled for today, but my client shot himself in the hand with an AR.


Screen name?




Check the "Use your safety" thread. Probably one of those clowns
Link Posted: 6/21/2016 4:59:53 PM EDT
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I guess there is lots of money in representing dumb people.
Link Posted: 6/21/2016 5:18:33 PM EDT
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GM's to warm up

Front Squat Cardio
135 x 20
185 x 20,20

KB Swings L/R
35 x 20/20
53 x 20/20,20/20

Smoked!
Link Posted: 6/21/2016 7:36:01 PM EDT
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I never realized how terrible my left shoulder mobility was.

Laying on the floor with my arms at 90 degrees, I can touch the back of my right hand to the ground, while my left is around 8 inches off
Link Posted: 6/21/2016 10:45:20 PM EDT
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You know what grinds my gears? When a guy who doesn't even lift comes over to your house and benches 250 for 3 reps easy.

Link Posted: 6/21/2016 11:00:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KaiK:
You know what grinds my gears? When a guy who doesn't even lift comes over to your house and benches 250 for 3 reps easy.

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Maybe he lifts in secret? Or he has multiple personalities and the personality you know is the one that doesn't even lift, like Herschel Walker?
Link Posted: 6/21/2016 11:01:38 PM EDT
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You know what grinds my gears? When a guy who doesn't even lift comes over to your house and benches 250 for 3 reps easy.

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Some people are too stupid to realize they shouldn't be able to do something.
Link Posted: 6/21/2016 11:04:40 PM EDT
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You know what grinds my gears? When a guy who doesn't even lift comes over to your house and benches 250 for 3 reps lifts more than you easy.

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Yah... This describes everyone I know. And their wife. And oldest son. And in SCWs case, daughter too.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:35:35 AM EDT
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Yah... This describes everyone I know. And their wife. And oldest son. And in SCWs case, daughter too.
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Originally Posted By KaiK:
You know what grinds my gears? When a guy who doesn't even lift comes over to your house and benches 250 for 3 reps lifts more than you easy.



Yah... This describes everyone I know. And their wife. And oldest son. And in SCWs case, daughter too.


lol


I was actually able to hang on a pullup bar yesterday.  I didn't try a pullup but just having my hand on the bar in that position was a first in the last 4 months.  I sagged all my weight on my hands too and still no pain.  I might actually be able to do front squats and cleans soon.  Snatches too.  And even maybe turn the key in my truck without hurting.

Link Posted: 6/22/2016 1:24:18 AM EDT
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He didn't say. He wants to get me around 600. I hope that's not peak.

From what I have been reading is the AI isn't as important if you spread the dose out more and don't see high e numbers.

But I should do the HGC for sure. How and when do you do the HGC?
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Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Not an expert, but you probably don't need an AI or hcg on that small of a dose.

Unfortunately that also means it's probably not going to do much for you at all.


Yep. I'll have to get them to up it in a month.

Yay, more tests.


lol. Get used to it. I think I was getting labs monthly until we settled on a treatment plan. Then every 6 months, but after my first 6 mo we made a change so 3 mo. Then I have another 3 month draw to make sure things are stable then back to every 6.

It's good to get more labs done to really monitor everything and get dialed in.

50 mg seems really low. Did your doc tell you if he wants a peak or a trough number for the next lab?



He didn't say. He wants to get me around 600. I hope that's not peak.

From what I have been reading is the AI isn't as important if you spread the dose out more and don't see high e numbers.

But I should do the HGC for sure. How and when do you do the HGC?


In my opinion, if your doc isn't tracking your E levels with your T levels, then you need a new doc. Your E level tells you if you need an AI.

Or menopause.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 1:27:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:


Now, the guys here who do Oly may disagree, but I think of squatting in weightlifting shoes as a bandaid for people without enough mobility to squat without them. If someone needs them or likes them for squatting, that's fine. But if you have enough mobility to squat without out them I think they are unnecessary.

If your shoulder mobility is keeping you from squatting heavy you can try using lifting straps to basically make the bar a safety bar. I found the picture below to kind of show what I am talking about. That way you can move forward until your shoulders get to where you want them.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ksSHElw7D18/hqdefault.jpg
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Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Originally Posted By MeatBag:
Screwed around with low bar squats at the end of my session. Discovered that flat shoes feel way better with low bar than my weightlifting shoes do. I was getting noticeably more glute and hamstring activation. Did some easy-ish sets with 200 and it didn't aggravate my elbow at all. Maybe if I hammer some light weight volume to get the form down and really work on my shoulder mobility, I can get back to heavy weights without fucking up my elbow. Maybe.


Now, the guys here who do Oly may disagree, but I think of squatting in weightlifting shoes as a bandaid for people without enough mobility to squat without them. If someone needs them or likes them for squatting, that's fine. But if you have enough mobility to squat without out them I think they are unnecessary.

If your shoulder mobility is keeping you from squatting heavy you can try using lifting straps to basically make the bar a safety bar. I found the picture below to kind of show what I am talking about. That way you can move forward until your shoulders get to where you want them.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ksSHElw7D18/hqdefault.jpg


I've always had plenty of mobility to squat barefoot/in chucks. I prefer romeleos. And I squat low bar (redundant, I know ).
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 1:32:58 AM EDT
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Speaking of squatting...

The SBD sleeves from Rolando came in last week. I was disciplined busy lazy and waited until squat day this week to try them out. I really like them. Though they are a bitch to get on/off. Definitely recommend a set if you are looking for knee compression/warmth.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:42:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By frayedknot:


In my opinion, if your doc isn't tracking your E levels with your T levels, then you need a new doc. Your E level tells you if you need an AI.

Or menopause.
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Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Not an expert, but you probably don't need an AI or hcg on that small of a dose.

Unfortunately that also means it's probably not going to do much for you at all.


Yep. I'll have to get them to up it in a month.

Yay, more tests.


lol. Get used to it. I think I was getting labs monthly until we settled on a treatment plan. Then every 6 months, but after my first 6 mo we made a change so 3 mo. Then I have another 3 month draw to make sure things are stable then back to every 6.

It's good to get more labs done to really monitor everything and get dialed in.

50 mg seems really low. Did your doc tell you if he wants a peak or a trough number for the next lab?



He didn't say. He wants to get me around 600. I hope that's not peak.

From what I have been reading is the AI isn't as important if you spread the dose out more and don't see high e numbers.

But I should do the HGC for sure. How and when do you do the HGC?


In my opinion, if your doc isn't tracking your E levels with your T levels, then you need a new doc. Your E level tells you if you need an AI.

Or menopause.


Don't worry I will be doing the tracking of the E and if it's high I will say something. You know how hard it was for me to get the shot? Fuck trying to change anything right now.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:43:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:


Some people are too stupid to realize they shouldn't be able to do something.
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Originally Posted By KaiK:
You know what grinds my gears? When a guy who doesn't even lift comes over to your house and benches 250 for 3 reps easy.



Some people are too stupid to realize they shouldn't be able to do something.


I told him he had retard strength; He agreed.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 8:01:54 AM EDT
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I've always had plenty of mobility to squat barefoot/in chucks. I prefer romeleos. And I squat low bar (redundant, I know ).
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Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Originally Posted By MeatBag:
Screwed around with low bar squats at the end of my session. Discovered that flat shoes feel way better with low bar than my weightlifting shoes do. I was getting noticeably more glute and hamstring activation. Did some easy-ish sets with 200 and it didn't aggravate my elbow at all. Maybe if I hammer some light weight volume to get the form down and really work on my shoulder mobility, I can get back to heavy weights without fucking up my elbow. Maybe.


Now, the guys here who do Oly may disagree, but I think of squatting in weightlifting shoes as a bandaid for people without enough mobility to squat without them. If someone needs them or likes them for squatting, that's fine. But if you have enough mobility to squat without out them I think they are unnecessary.

If your shoulder mobility is keeping you from squatting heavy you can try using lifting straps to basically make the bar a safety bar. I found the picture below to kind of show what I am talking about. That way you can move forward until your shoulders get to where you want them.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ksSHElw7D18/hqdefault.jpg


I've always had plenty of mobility to squat barefoot/in chucks. I prefer romeleos. And I squat low bar (redundant, I know ).


What do you like more about squatting in romaleos?  just curious.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 9:00:06 AM EDT
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Speaking of squatting...

The SBD sleeves from Rolando came in last week. I was disciplined busy lazy and waited until squat day this week to try them out. I really like them. Though they are a bitch to get on/off. Definitely recommend a set if you are looking for knee compression/warmth.
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Knee high socks help tremendously.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 10:13:26 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/22/2016 10:14:29 AM EDT
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Knee high socks help tremendously.
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Speaking of squatting...

The SBD sleeves from Rolando came in last week. I was disciplined busy lazy and waited until squat day this week to try them out. I really like them. Though they are a bitch to get on/off. Definitely recommend a set if you are looking for knee compression/warmth.



Knee high socks help tremendously.


White socks with a colored stripe?  I need a headband too.

Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:23:07 AM EDT
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decided to do a sumo PR attempt on my de-load squat day, after OLY squats. I only do sumo as an assistance movement. got a 5 lb PR. 350 easy, meh...nothing great. a PR is a PR though.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:33:10 AM EDT
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Guys, tell me about hematocrit. My level was 46 before TRT. Should I go give blood? Test first? Don't worry about it?
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 1:24:18 PM EDT
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Guys, tell me about hematocrit. My level was 46 before TRT. Should I go give blood? Test first? Don't worry about it?
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I didn't have any trouble for the first year even at my relatively high TRT dose of 200mg/week.  However, about two months ago I really spiked my hc and had to bleed it out, crazy blood pressure causing headaches and nose bleeds we gone in a minute.  I started getting symptoms about a month after that and immediately bled out again and I seem to be leveled out some.

Anyway- long story short was it seems like it took a year before it became an issue for me.  Now I keep a closer eye on it.  Not just the count but also blood pressure and headache symptoms.

Link Posted: 6/22/2016 1:46:51 PM EDT
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I didn't have any trouble for the first year even at my relatively high TRT dose of 200mg/week.  However, about two months ago I really spiked my hc and had to bleed it out, crazy blood pressure causing headaches and nose bleeds we gone in a minute.  I started getting symptoms about a month after that and immediately bled out again and I seem to be leveled out some.

Anyway- long story short was it seems like it took a year before it became an issue for me.  Now I keep a closer eye on it.  Not just the count but also blood pressure and headache symptoms.

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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Guys, tell me about hematocrit. My level was 46 before TRT. Should I go give blood? Test first? Don't worry about it?


I didn't have any trouble for the first year even at my relatively high TRT dose of 200mg/week.  However, about two months ago I really spiked my hc and had to bleed it out, crazy blood pressure causing headaches and nose bleeds we gone in a minute.  I started getting symptoms about a month after that and immediately bled out again and I seem to be leveled out some.

Anyway- long story short was it seems like it took a year before it became an issue for me.  Now I keep a closer eye on it.  Not just the count but also blood pressure and headache symptoms.




My BP was fine when I had my vitals taken last week. I'm going to have bloods done in another 2-4 weeks and we'll see how it goes. Any other symptoms I should look for besides headache and nosebleeds?
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My HC was around 48 when I started. It stays around 51-52 now. I don't worry about it as I don't perceive any sides.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:01:51 PM EDT
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My HC was around 48 when I started. It stays around 51-52 now. I don't worry about it as I don't perceive any sides.
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What's your weekly dose?
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:09:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Guys, tell me about hematocrit. My level was 46 before TRT. Should I go give blood? Test first? Don't worry about it?
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Mine has been slowly inching up on 150mg/week. This last lab 2 or 3 weeks ago was just over 51 so I am going to donate blood sometime before my next lab in October. My doc said the risk of clots and what not starts kicking in above 54.

It isn't an issue for everyone, so you just need to watch your numbers. But donating blood is a good thing to do anyway I guess, so no real downside.
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My BP was fine when I had my vitals taken last week. I'm going to have bloods done in another 2-4 weeks and we'll see how it goes. Any other symptoms I should look for besides headache and nosebleeds?
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Originally Posted By SCW:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Guys, tell me about hematocrit. My level was 46 before TRT. Should I go give blood? Test first? Don't worry about it?


I didn't have any trouble for the first year even at my relatively high TRT dose of 200mg/week.  However, about two months ago I really spiked my hc and had to bleed it out, crazy blood pressure causing headaches and nose bleeds we gone in a minute.  I started getting symptoms about a month after that and immediately bled out again and I seem to be leveled out some.

Anyway- long story short was it seems like it took a year before it became an issue for me.  Now I keep a closer eye on it.  Not just the count but also blood pressure and headache symptoms.




My BP was fine when I had my vitals taken last week. I'm going to have bloods done in another 2-4 weeks and we'll see how it goes. Any other symptoms I should look for besides headache and nosebleeds?


Dunno, but here's a terrible article on the subject.  I'd like to know a little more about it too, I was somewhat surprised when my BP spiked over the course of maybe 3 weeks to some crazy high level (can't remember the numbers, but it was very high for me) and the accompanying headaches.  I don't even remember what made me think of my HC levels, but that sure fixed it.  I drained a pint of stuff so sludgy it was about like ketchup.  The second time was much, much better.  I didn't want to drive clear into town (50 miles one-way) to a blood bank so I had an EMT friend do it for me.  I kept plugging a 16g needle and she would use a syringe to draw it until it started to flow again.  The second time was much easier.

My wife says I do stuff that normal people don't do, lol.  She compliments me a lot.

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donating blood is a good thing to do anyway I guess, so no real downside.
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This.

Better health. Helps the blood bank. Only takes 45 min 2-3 times a year. Go donate.

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Dunno, but here's a terrible article on the subject.  I'd like to know a little more about it too, I was somewhat surprised when my BP spiked over the course of maybe 3 weeks to some crazy high level (can't remember the numbers, but it was very high for me) and the accompanying headaches.  I don't even remember what made me think of my HC levels, but that sure fixed it.  I drained a pint of stuff so sludgy it was about like ketchup.  The second time was much, much better.  I didn't want to drive clear into town (50 miles one-way) to a blood bank so I had an EMT friend do it for me.  I kept plugging a 16g needle and she would use a syringe to draw it until it started to flow again.  The second time was much easier.

My wife says I do stuff that normal people don't do, lol.  She compliments me a lot.

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Guys, tell me about hematocrit. My level was 46 before TRT. Should I go give blood? Test first? Don't worry about it?


I didn't have any trouble for the first year even at my relatively high TRT dose of 200mg/week.  However, about two months ago I really spiked my hc and had to bleed it out, crazy blood pressure causing headaches and nose bleeds we gone in a minute.  I started getting symptoms about a month after that and immediately bled out again and I seem to be leveled out some.

Anyway- long story short was it seems like it took a year before it became an issue for me.  Now I keep a closer eye on it.  Not just the count but also blood pressure and headache symptoms.




My BP was fine when I had my vitals taken last week. I'm going to have bloods done in another 2-4 weeks and we'll see how it goes. Any other symptoms I should look for besides headache and nosebleeds?


Dunno, but here's a terrible article on the subject.  I'd like to know a little more about it too, I was somewhat surprised when my BP spiked over the course of maybe 3 weeks to some crazy high level (can't remember the numbers, but it was very high for me) and the accompanying headaches.  I don't even remember what made me think of my HC levels, but that sure fixed it.  I drained a pint of stuff so sludgy it was about like ketchup.  The second time was much, much better.  I didn't want to drive clear into town (50 miles one-way) to a blood bank so I had an EMT friend do it for me.  I kept plugging a 16g needle and she would use a syringe to draw it until it started to flow again.  The second time was much easier.

My wife says I do stuff that normal people don't do, lol.  She compliments me a lot.




We'll see what my numbers are soon. I have a blood bank close to me, and also have some EMT friends so it should be an easy fix.
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What's your weekly dose?
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My HC was around 48 when I started. It stays around 51-52 now. I don't worry about it as I don't perceive any sides.



What's your weekly dose?


100mg/E3D...so 200mg/week.
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100mg/E3D...so 200mg/week.
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My HC was around 48 when I started. It stays around 51-52 now. I don't worry about it as I don't perceive any sides.



What's your weekly dose?


100mg/E3D...so 200mg/week.


Ok thanks
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I just put a 5# plate on one side and a 2.5# plate on the other.
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I just put a 5# plate on one side and a 2.5# plate on the other.
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Sooo, 52.5lb squats today?  Is that a PR?



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Hey man, you're just training for the "real world"; where you'll have to squat a tree trunk that's fatter one one side
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Hey man, you're just training for the "real world"; where you'll have to squat a tree trunk that's fatter one one side
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I just put a 5# plate on one side and a 2.5# plate on the other.


Hey man, you're just training for the "real world"; where you'll have to squat a tree trunk that's fatter one one side


It was bench. I was supposed to do 235 and did 232.5.
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It was bench. I was supposed to do 235 and did 232.5.
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Originally Posted By KaiK:
I just put a 5# plate on one side and a 2.5# plate on the other.


Hey man, you're just training for the "real world"; where you'll have to squat a tree trunk that's fatter one one side


It was bench. I was supposed to do 235 and did 232.5.


I think you'll be fine. Unless you died.
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I think you'll be fine. Unless you died.
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Originally Posted By KaiK:
I just put a 5# plate on one side and a 2.5# plate on the other.


Hey man, you're just training for the "real world"; where you'll have to squat a tree trunk that's fatter one one side


It was bench. I was supposed to do 235 and did 232.5.


I think you'll be fine. Unless you died.


It was on my 3 rep cycle and I only got 3 reps. So not sure if I could get 3 at 235.
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It was on my 3 rep cycle and I only got 3 reps. So not sure if I could get 3 at 235.
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Originally Posted By KaiK:
I just put a 5# plate on one side and a 2.5# plate on the other.


Hey man, you're just training for the "real world"; where you'll have to squat a tree trunk that's fatter one one side


It was bench. I was supposed to do 235 and did 232.5.


I think you'll be fine. Unless you died.


It was on my 3 rep cycle and I only got 3 reps. So not sure if I could get 3 at 235.


I'm sure you are just fine. I bet your weights are off by more than 2.5lbs one way or the other. Unless you've weighed/calibrated them all.
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I'm sure you are just fine. I bet your weights are off by more than 2.5lbs one way or the other. Unless you've weighed/calibrated them all.
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I bought calibrated plates to 10 grams.
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I bought calibrated plates to 10 grams.
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I'm sure you are just fine. I bet your weights are off by more than 2.5lbs one way or the other. Unless you've weighed/calibrated them all.


I bought calibrated plates to 10 grams.


Well damn! You definitely broke yourself then.

I still think you wouldn't have noticed the difference.
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