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Posted: 6/18/2016 5:37:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hizzie:
Much fuckery at the gym today. Harry Half Rep and Petey Partial were breaking vertical in the squat rack. Sammy Shit Stain was in the locker room. For christ sake douse those nasty drawers with gasoline and burn them. 
Pull downs to warm up Incline BBBP 95 x 25 135 x 15 175 x 10 205 x 3 225 x 1 245 x 1 265 x 1 275 x 1 PR 
I'm positive I had 285 in me but still overly cautious of the shoulder. Chins BW x 10 +25 x 5 +50 x 2 +75 x 2 +100 x 1 +125 x miss 
+25 x 15 
High cable face pulls BW @ ~200 lbs. Nice. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 6:12:47 PM EDT
[#2]
 busted ass thread!
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Posted: 6/18/2016 6:13:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/18/2016 6:18:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hizzie:
busted ass thread!Why so many pull-ups? But... why? |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 7:36:37 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
Why so many pull-ups? But... why? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
Originally Posted By Hizzie:
busted ass thread!Why so many pull-ups? But... why? Cuz chins are AWESOME! |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 7:59:10 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hizzie:
Cuz chins are AWESOME! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hizzie:
Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
Originally Posted By Hizzie:
busted ass thread!Why so many pull-ups? But... why? Cuz chins are AWESOME! Nah. I did my OHP and was feeling pretty good. Then did a few pull-ups, and almost died. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 3:43:37 PM EDT
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Finished this wave with an Incline rep PR, Front squat rep PR, and an OLY squat Rep PR.. No real single PR's, but that's forward progression, I'll take it.
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Posted: 6/19/2016 11:24:58 PM EDT
[#8]
Leg day,mowing grass then run a 5k seemed like a good idea at the time
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Posted: 6/20/2016 9:50:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Bench with more bench and dips. Sort of 5/3/1 BBB with joker sets. Seems to be working. I got 220 for 5 today then did 250. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
That's what I'm doing today. Deads then heavy bent over rows. Gunna bring the pain. So much fun!!! 
I am doing bench press. I've been doing bench 3 days a week for awhile now. I want to get to 3 plates. Sweeeet. I just started my mission for 4 plates. Should be a fun rest of the year. What sort of bench work are you doing 3 days a week? Bench with more bench and dips. Sort of 5/3/1 BBB with joker sets. Seems to be working. I got 220 for 5 today then did 250. How did 250 feel? Did you order a slingshot yet? They are great for getting in some overload training. Yesterday I worked up to 3 plates for 5 doubles, practicing form and explosiveness. Then put the slanger on for 2 sets of 10 at 3 plates. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 12:44:23 PM EDT
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A long while back Mr.Kasab posted a vid on using a band as a budget-friendly slingshot. Twist and double over the band to make two loops. Slide it up your arms to just above the elbow. Works pretty well for overloading the bench press and may give you an idea of whether or not you want to invest in a slingshot.
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Posted: 6/20/2016 1:51:55 PM EDT
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First time going this heavy on tire flips. This was a heavy bitch.
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Posted: 6/20/2016 2:05:00 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
How did 250 feel? Did you order a slingshot yet? They are great for getting in some overload training. Yesterday I worked up to 3 plates for 5 doubles, practicing form and explosiveness. Then put the slanger on for 2 sets of 10 at 3 plates. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
That's what I'm doing today. Deads then heavy bent over rows. Gunna bring the pain. So much fun!!!
I am doing bench press. I've been doing bench 3 days a week for awhile now. I want to get to 3 plates. Sweeeet. I just started my mission for 4 plates. Should be a fun rest of the year. What sort of bench work are you doing 3 days a week? Bench with more bench and dips. Sort of 5/3/1 BBB with joker sets. Seems to be working. I got 220 for 5 today then did 250. How did 250 feel? Did you order a slingshot yet? They are great for getting in some overload training. Yesterday I worked up to 3 plates for 5 doubles, practicing form and explosiveness. Then put the slanger on for 2 sets of 10 at 3 plates. I felt like I could get more. No sling shot. I am too poor right now. I am having AC problems at my house. But that has spurred me into getting EPA certified to work on ACs. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 3:04:41 PM EDT
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What's normal weakly does for cypionate?
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Posted: 6/20/2016 3:30:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
I felt like I could get more. No sling shot. I am too poor right now. I am having AC problems at my house. But that has spurred me into getting EPA certified to work on ACs. Did you take the online test and pay the $9? That's how I got mine years ago, it allowed me to buy real freon for my car. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 3:33:19 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
What's normal weakly does for cypionate? ~100mg/week is pretty normal. It seems like you can be at 80% of your 'perfect' dose and it feels like you're not even taking anything. Get up to some magical number and like a switch all is right with the world. For me that's around 200mg/week. I've tried less and there just isn't any point to it. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 3:35:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AnvilUSMC]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
What's normal weakly does for cypionate? Depends on the person. I am at 150mg/week split into two doses. I also take half an arimidex twice a week. I naturally have lower SHBG so my Free T is a pretty high proportionately to my total t. So I don't need a huge dose. 200 mg a week is probably on the high side of what is ordinarily prescribed as far as I can tell. Edit: I worked up to 150mg week, I think I started at 100mg/week when I started doing at home injections. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:07:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCW:
Did you take the online test and pay the $9? That's how I got mine years ago, it allowed me to buy real freon for my car. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCW:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
I felt like I could get more. No sling shot. I am too poor right now. I am having AC problems at my house. But that has spurred me into getting EPA certified to work on ACs. Did you take the online test and pay the $9? That's how I got mine years ago, it allowed me to buy real freon for my car. This is the 608 it doesn't cover cars. That's 609. It's about $125. You have to buy the company's study packet to get the test and they charge you $35 to have guy watch you take it. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:08:21 PM EDT
[#18]
OK, Dr is giving me 100 mg/week.
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:11:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
OK, Dr is giving me 100 mg/week. Good place to start. I do much more. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:12:12 PM EDT
[#20]
Damn my doc prescribed me a lot
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:21:57 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Damn my doc prescribed me a lot lol. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:23:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Damn my doc prescribed me a lot So does mine. My numbers suck and don't get the positives without the higher dose. Some docs are way conservative to start with. Hopefully doc will ramp it up if he needs it. Some docs don't like going over a certain arbitrary number for whatever reason though. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:26:07 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Damn my doc prescribed me a lot Just starting out. How much did you get? |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:34:38 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Damn my doc prescribed me a lot Just starting out. How much did you get? |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:36:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Just starting out. How much did you get? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Damn my doc prescribed me a lot Just starting out. How much did you get? Lolx2 Waiting for pics of prescription... |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:37:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
So does mine. My numbers suck and don't get the positives without the higher dose. Some docs are way conservative to start with. Hopefully doc will ramp it up if he needs it. Some docs don't like going over a certain arbitrary number for whatever reason though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Damn my doc prescribed me a lot So does mine. My numbers suck and don't get the positives without the higher dose. Some docs are way conservative to start with. Hopefully doc will ramp it up if he needs it. Some docs don't like going over a certain arbitrary number for whatever reason though. Don't think he 100% knows what he is doing. I'm just glad i made it this far. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 4:43:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Just starting out. How much did you get? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Damn my doc prescribed me a lot Just starting out. How much did you get? Just starting out here too. I get...a little more than that. My doc is pretty aggressive though... |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 5:11:28 PM EDT
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Gym was 80 degrees today when I worked out. Squats were sorta light, 325 for 3x7 because I tweaked my back pulling on my knee sleeves. I really need to get back into a rhythm, terrible infrequent workouts and rotten diet with poor sleep. New house under contract, new job non-existent, old job will only last till the new mortgage is final. Then I'm on my own and trying to earn a living. The stress is killing me
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Posted: 6/20/2016 5:13:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
OK, Dr is giving me 100 mg/week. Starting any AI or HCG also? How often are you going to pin? I liked the beginning of the week rush on once a week, but felt spent by day 5. So that's when we uped my dosage and I started going twice a week. So i don't get a high from it but I get steady energy and wellness. Watch out for acne on your back and shoulders. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 5:24:49 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Starting any AI or HCG also? How often are you going to pin? I liked the beginning of the week rush on once a week, but felt spent by day 5. So that's when we uped my dosage and I started going twice a week. So i don't get a high from it but I get steady energy and wellness. Watch out for acne on your back and shoulders. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
OK, Dr is giving me 100 mg/week. Starting any AI or HCG also? How often are you going to pin? I liked the beginning of the week rush on once a week, but felt spent by day 5. So that's when we uped my dosage and I started going twice a week. So i don't get a high from it but I get steady energy and wellness. Watch out for acne on your back and shoulders. Shit I read it wrong. Only getting 50 mg a week.
No AI or HCG. I can worry about that later I guess. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 5:59:26 PM EDT
[#31]
GSL just told me I need to pt more, then called me a weekend warrior
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Posted: 6/20/2016 6:00:57 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN:
GSL just told me I need to pt more, then called me a weekend warrior You do, now stop slacking. 
And why would you listen to anything that guy says? |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 6:02:50 PM EDT
[#33]
Not an expert, but you probably don't need an AI or hcg on that small of a dose.
Unfortunately that also means it's probably not going to do much for you at all. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 6:06:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Not an expert, but you probably don't need an AI or hcg on that small of a dose. Unfortunately that also means it's probably not going to do much for you at all. Yep. I'll have to get them to up it in a month.
Yay, more tests.
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Posted: 6/20/2016 9:42:05 PM EDT
[#35]
Lenny&Larry's is having a sale on Complete Cookies.
NOTIES16 gets you 15% off Yum! |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 10:02:54 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Yep. I'll have to get them to up it in a month.
Yay, more tests. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Not an expert, but you probably don't need an AI or hcg on that small of a dose. Unfortunately that also means it's probably not going to do much for you at all. Yep. I'll have to get them to up it in a month.
Yay, more tests. lol. Get used to it. I think I was getting labs monthly until we settled on a treatment plan. Then every 6 months, but after my first 6 mo we made a change so 3 mo. Then I have another 3 month draw to make sure things are stable then back to every 6. It's good to get more labs done to really monitor everything and get dialed in. 50 mg seems really low. Did your doc tell you if he wants a peak or a trough number for the next lab? |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 10:06:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
lol. Get used to it. I think I was getting labs monthly until we settled on a treatment plan. Then every 6 months, but after my first 6 mo we made a change so 3 mo. Then I have another 3 month draw to make sure things are stable then back to every 6. It's good to get more labs done to really monitor everything and get dialed in. 50 mg seems really low. Did your doc tell you if he wants a peak or a trough number for the next lab? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Not an expert, but you probably don't need an AI or hcg on that small of a dose. Unfortunately that also means it's probably not going to do much for you at all. Yep. I'll have to get them to up it in a month.
Yay, more tests. lol. Get used to it. I think I was getting labs monthly until we settled on a treatment plan. Then every 6 months, but after my first 6 mo we made a change so 3 mo. Then I have another 3 month draw to make sure things are stable then back to every 6. It's good to get more labs done to really monitor everything and get dialed in. 50 mg seems really low. Did your doc tell you if he wants a peak or a trough number for the next lab? He didn't say. He wants to get me around 600. I hope that's not peak. From what I have been reading is the AI isn't as important if you spread the dose out more and don't see high e numbers. But I should do the HGC for sure. How and when do you do the HGC? |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 10:24:40 PM EDT
[#38]
Geeze, all you guys make me feel young with all your prescriptions.
Then I stand.up and feel old and creaky |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 10:41:14 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hizzie:
Lenny&Larry's is having a sale on Complete Cookies. NOTIES16 gets you 15% off Yum! Interesting Do they taste like sawdust? |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 10:53:42 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
He didn't say. He wants to get me around 600. I hope that's not peak. From what I have been reading is the AI isn't as important if you spread the dose out more and don't see high e numbers. But I should do the HGC for sure. How and when do you do the HGC? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Not an expert, but you probably don't need an AI or hcg on that small of a dose. Unfortunately that also means it's probably not going to do much for you at all. Yep. I'll have to get them to up it in a month.
Yay, more tests. lol. Get used to it. I think I was getting labs monthly until we settled on a treatment plan. Then every 6 months, but after my first 6 mo we made a change so 3 mo. Then I have another 3 month draw to make sure things are stable then back to every 6. It's good to get more labs done to really monitor everything and get dialed in. 50 mg seems really low. Did your doc tell you if he wants a peak or a trough number for the next lab? He didn't say. He wants to get me around 600. I hope that's not peak. From what I have been reading is the AI isn't as important if you spread the dose out more and don't see high e numbers. But I should do the HGC for sure. How and when do you do the HGC? I inject hcg 2x week along with my test-E. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 11:03:10 PM EDT
[#41]
Fucking squat still sitting at 205.
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Posted: 6/20/2016 11:10:10 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead:
I inject hcg 2x week along with my test-E. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Not an expert, but you probably don't need an AI or hcg on that small of a dose. Unfortunately that also means it's probably not going to do much for you at all. Yep. I'll have to get them to up it in a month.
Yay, more tests. lol. Get used to it. I think I was getting labs monthly until we settled on a treatment plan. Then every 6 months, but after my first 6 mo we made a change so 3 mo. Then I have another 3 month draw to make sure things are stable then back to every 6. It's good to get more labs done to really monitor everything and get dialed in. 50 mg seems really low. Did your doc tell you if he wants a peak or a trough number for the next lab? He didn't say. He wants to get me around 600. I hope that's not peak. From what I have been reading is the AI isn't as important if you spread the dose out more and don't see high e numbers. But I should do the HGC for sure. How and when do you do the HGC? I inject hcg 2x week along with my test-E. Did Dr say anything about cycling the HGC? I saw something about that. Like 1 week on 3 weeks off so your body wouldn't become used to it. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 11:35:11 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
He didn't say. He wants to get me around 600. I hope that's not peak. From what I have been reading is the AI isn't as important if you spread the dose out more and don't see high e numbers. But I should do the HGC for sure. How and when do you do the HGC? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Not an expert, but you probably don't need an AI or hcg on that small of a dose. Unfortunately that also means it's probably not going to do much for you at all. Yep. I'll have to get them to up it in a month.
Yay, more tests. lol. Get used to it. I think I was getting labs monthly until we settled on a treatment plan. Then every 6 months, but after my first 6 mo we made a change so 3 mo. Then I have another 3 month draw to make sure things are stable then back to every 6. It's good to get more labs done to really monitor everything and get dialed in. 50 mg seems really low. Did your doc tell you if he wants a peak or a trough number for the next lab? He didn't say. He wants to get me around 600. I hope that's not peak. From what I have been reading is the AI isn't as important if you spread the dose out more and don't see high e numbers. But I should do the HGC for sure. How and when do you do the HGC? I'm not on HCG because I like the birth control properties of not being on it... And yeah, with the AI it really depends on how much t you convert to e. If you start feeling sentimental watching tv or getting pimples on your back/shoulders it's time for an AI. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 11:36:25 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN:
Geeze, all you guys make me feel young with all your prescriptions. Then I stand.up and feel old and creaky Hey! I'm not old. Just have lazy nuts... It's a condition. lol |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 11:56:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CLICKBANGBANG]
[#45]
At 50mg a week, you do not need an AI. I almost guaranty it. A little extra E never hurt anyone. A ton of E is bad. But you're dose is pretty low. Just pin once a week. That low of a dose won't swing your mood or T levels too bad (compared to pinning 250mg per week). Large doses need to be split to twice a week.
To get more Cyp, only draw labs the day before your next pin. So pin on Saturday. Only ever lab on Friday. With a half life of Cyp at 7 days, the day before, or day of before you pin is where you'll have the lowest total T numbers. Then you can see if the doc will up your prescription. At a 600 after a week after 6-7 days after you last pin means your peak T the day of or day after injection will be a quite a bit higher. HGC does not need to be cycled. You do not build resistance to it. Your body makes 70mg of test a week (for us with low T). Adding 50mg in a injection per week with no hGC can shut your natural production down. The. You end up worse off. But add hGC in, and you'll have your natural production, plus your injection amout. I've seen where hCG will also increase your free T numbers (read gains). Always, always, always get a copy of your labs! Call the doc. Asks them to print it up. Go pick it up. Seriously. You'll need those to help gauge your health and he way you feel to the numbers. That will help to find the spot you feel best at. And if you need to, helps to give you a reason to fire or keep the current doc. Especially if he's not super confident with the protocol or treatment. |
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Posted: 6/21/2016 4:49:02 AM EDT
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Screwed around with low bar squats at the end of my session. Discovered that flat shoes feel way better with low bar than my weightlifting shoes do. I was getting noticeably more glute and hamstring activation. Did some easy-ish sets with 200 and it didn't aggravate my elbow at all. Maybe if I hammer some light weight volume to get the form down and really work on my shoulder mobility, I can get back to heavy weights without fucking up my elbow. Maybe.
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Posted: 6/21/2016 8:39:58 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN:
Geeze, all you guys make me feel young with all your prescriptions. Then I stand.up and feel old and creaky I know...right?
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Posted: 6/21/2016 8:55:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeatBag:
Screwed around with low bar squats at the end of my session. Discovered that flat shoes feel way better with low bar than my weightlifting shoes do. I was getting noticeably more glute and hamstring activation. Did some easy-ish sets with 200 and it didn't aggravate my elbow at all. Maybe if I hammer some light weight volume to get the form down and really work on my shoulder mobility, I can get back to heavy weights without fucking up my elbow. Maybe. I don't like lifting shoes for low bar either. |
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Posted: 6/21/2016 9:15:14 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeatBag:
Screwed around with low bar squats at the end of my session. Discovered that flat shoes feel way better with low bar than my weightlifting shoes do. I was getting noticeably more glute and hamstring activation. Did some easy-ish sets with 200 and it didn't aggravate my elbow at all. Maybe if I hammer some light weight volume to get the form down and really work on my shoulder mobility, I can get back to heavy weights without fucking up my elbow. Maybe. Now, the guys here who do Oly may disagree, but I think of squatting in weightlifting shoes as a bandaid for people without enough mobility to squat without them. If someone needs them or likes them for squatting, that's fine. But if you have enough mobility to squat without out them I think they are unnecessary. If your shoulder mobility is keeping you from squatting heavy you can try using lifting straps to basically make the bar a safety bar. I found the picture below to kind of show what I am talking about. That way you can move forward until your shoulders get to where you want them. 
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Posted: 6/21/2016 9:19:16 AM EDT
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Deadlift to 315# after grappling last night. That was quite the experience. Looks like there may be a few guys interested in doing this regularly.
How do we feel about lifting after very intense cardio work. Doing 3-5 5 minute sets at max effort + an hour of general training and rolling prior to that. It works for me because they have nice equipment, and I am warmed up. |
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