LaRue FAST Targets - Page 1

Posted: 7/7/2011 8:26:33 AM EDT

FAST:

Free-standing Action Steel Target TG-FAST

The LaRue FAST is a lightweight and portable reactionary target that can be setup in minutes. The FAST uses 4” x 4” posts available at most lumber dealers. Precisely manufactured from high quality materials and is designed to survive the toughest environments and the roughest treatment. Excellent for shotgun and handgun training too!

Link to Operator's Manual

Some of the main advantages are:

- Free-Standing Non Powered. Easy to setup and position, needs no batteries or power.

- Man Portable. 39 lbs total weight. Minor assembly required.

- Battle Tough. 3/8" thick 500 Brinell target. Withstands .223s and .308s. Targets are weather-proof, leave it out year round.

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Cost Link to purchase.

FAST Assembly:

Free-standing Action Steel Target. Includes Target, Base Plate, Spall Plate, and retaining Pins. (Does not include the 4" x4" post, Post Guard or Post base)

FAST1 - $295.00

Post Guard

This optional armor plate slides into the base assembly, hanging down in front of the 4" x 4", offering protection from impacts below the target.

FAST2 - $45.00

Post Base

This optional part holds a 4" x 4" post vertically anywhere you want to put a FAST Target.

FAST3 - $95.00

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Target Specs.

- Weight: 39 lbs.

- Dimensions of target: 3/8" x 11.5" x 23.5"

- Materials: Steel is AR500 hard armor plate steel (hardness of 500 Brinell) commonly referred to as "rifle steel".

Information on other LaRue Tactical Targets can be found here.

Posted: 7/7/2011 8:34:14 AM EDT

[#1]

Pretty neat.

Does the target move at all? If not does that effect the steal negatively? I thought you want AR500 steel plates to have some give to them .

Posted: 7/7/2011 9:25:38 AM EDT

[#2]

These look like a lot of fun!

Is there a minimum distance you would recommend for shooting with .223? I'm wondering both for safety and to prevent damage to the target.

Also, does the post base adjust for setting up the target on an incline? or would I just have to stick something under the legs?

Posted: 7/7/2011 10:45:00 AM EDT

[#3]

So is the idea that it rocks back under impact, thereby giving an indication of a hit, and then rocks forward/resets under it's own weight?

Posted: 7/7/2011 11:17:55 AM EDT

[#4]

I found this:

Recommended caliber distances

Be advised - it is the short, fast bullets (i.e. 5.56) that put
the most wear on the target steel....long, slow bullets
(i.e. 7.62) can be shot relatively close (25 meters) with little
or no effect on the steel, as they expend their energy in a much
slower manner. Pistol rounds do no wear whatsoever.
These targets are good for pistol and small rifle rounds such as
5.56, 7.62, and 300 Win. Mag., 338 Lapua. DO NOT SHOOT
WITH .50 BMG!!!

Always feel free to call for clarification
from the LaRue factory - 512-259-1585.

5.56
(223 Rem.)

We recommend a minimum of 100 meters to maximize target
life. There are regional training ranges shooting these targets
as close as 50 meters....but they also have to budget to
occasionally replace/refresh the target plates. This includes
green tip.

7.62
(308 Win.)

We recommend a minimum of 50 meters to maximize target
life. There are ranges shooting these targets as close as 25
meters....with apparently no ill effects.

300 Win. Mag.

We recommend a minimum of 150 meters to maximize target
life. Usually not an issue because most long-gunners use 300
Win. Mags from 300 - 1,200 meters.

338 Lapua

We recommend a minimum of 200 meters to maximize target
life. Usually not an issue because most long-gunners use 338
Lapuas from 500 - 2,000 meters.

.50 BMG DO NOT SHOOT WITH .50 BMG!!!
The target is not made to withstand the energy of a .50BMG.
Something on the target will break if hit by a .50!!!

Posted: 7/7/2011 11:31:49 AM EDT

[#5]

Gracias GoatBoy, I couldn't get the manual to open up on my phone.

Posted: 7/7/2011 11:37:43 AM EDT

[#6]

Very cool.

Now if I could just find some place to use them that isn't a 3 hour round trip drive from me.

Posted: 7/7/2011 11:55:37 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
So is the idea that it rocks back under impact, thereby giving an indication of a hit, and then rocks forward/resets under it's own weight?

That is a question that I have as well.

Posted: 7/7/2011 12:10:32 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:

So is the idea that it rocks back under impact, thereby giving an indication of a hit, and then rocks forward/resets under it's own weight?

That is a question that I have as well.

From the looks of it, the impact pushes the target back and then returns to a slight forward lean. I'm sure I can harass someone to get an answer if they don't post in here soon.

Posted: 7/7/2011 12:33:19 PM EDT

[#9]

That's pretty nice.

Posted: 7/7/2011 2:29:54 PM EDT

[#10]

It certainly looks like it is floating in there and would rock on impact. Probably not enough to be a visual indicator of a hit though.

Posted: 7/7/2011 3:37:47 PM EDT

[#11]

Cool!

Posted: 7/7/2011 4:27:36 PM EDT

[#12]

Sweet !

Posted: 7/7/2011 5:13:38 PM EDT

[#13]

looks cool !
Link to video ?

Posted: 7/7/2011 5:14:13 PM EDT

[#14]

this is relevant to my interests.

Interested in video showing reaction w/ pistol and carbines

Posted: 7/7/2011 5:53:17 PM EDT

[#15]

Looks great.

Sorry if I missed it but what are the dimentions of the 500 brinell plate?

Posted: 7/7/2011 6:14:21 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
I found this:

[span style='font-family: Arial; color: black; font-weight: bold;']Recommended caliber

[span style='font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;'][span style='font-weight: bold;']

/snip...

I have a 3/8 AR500 plate that will put up to some abuse but real deal milspec M855 from my 18" barrel puts decent "craters". M855 still leaves digns with my 16" barrel too, but M193 doesn't do a thing through the 16" but leaves dings through my 18" barrel so I would still watch the ammo and velocities with .223 @ 100 yards

Posted: 7/7/2011 6:27:05 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
It certainly looks like it is floating in there and would rock on impact. Probably not enough to be a visual indicator of a hit though.

"The LaRue FAST is a lightweight and portable reactionary target that can be setup in minutes".

This would imply it does something other than dent.

Posted: 7/7/2011 9:16:10 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:

It certainly looks like it is floating in there and would rock on impact. Probably not enough to be a visual indicator of a hit though.

"The LaRue FAST is a lightweight and portable reactionary target that can be setup in minutes".

This would imply it does something other than dent.

It might "ding" but that would be a guess

Posted: 7/8/2011 3:40:45 AM EDT

[#19]

I'm sorry, but why does metal targets cost sooo much?!?

I have a private range on my land about 35-45 minutes away from my home, I have 255 acres, with access to shooting long ranges up to 778 yards.... I would love to have some metal targets to shoot at that react and maybe reset themselves.... I'm not going to pay $1000.00 for a target that stands itself back up!

I love and breath LaRue parts, the best out there with some of the best CS..... But makes me upset that they sorely price their metal targets so high that nobody but agencies can buy them, well most of us can, but not multiple units..... What's fun about shooting one target?

When I first saw LaRue's powered resettable target, I have been making my own...... Right now I figure I've spent $78 on a large piece of hardened steel that I cut in a 'man' shape (waste and up) with a plasma cutter, and a 300 lb DC actuator. Got a few more welds and tryin to make a henge system and a button or lever so it can tell when it drops and a cutoff for when it stands back up.

..... I would say that when I'm done, I would have spent maybe less than $100 and maybe 8 hours of my time. But when I finish and want to make more I can make a few more for less than $80 and maybe 2-3 hours each. I'm just a hobbyist, I don't have deep city/county/state/federal money to buy $1000 metal targets.

Somebody needs to make some cheap metal targets, everything I've search for including single skinny poppers cost hundreds of dollars...

Larue, I'm not bashing you guys in any way, but $450 for a metal target is very pricey. IMHO.

Posted: 7/8/2011 4:12:05 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
I'm sorry, but why does metal targets cost sooo much?!?

I have a private range on my land about 35-45 minutes away from my home, I have 255 acres, with access to shooting long ranges up to 778 yards.... I would love to have some metal targets to shoot at that react and maybe reset themselves.... I'm not going to pay $1000.00 for a target that stands itself back up!

I love and breath LaRue parts, the best out there with some of the best CS..... But makes me upset that they sorely price their metal targets so high that nobody but agencies can buy them, well most of us can, but not multiple units..... What's fun about shooting one target?

When I first saw LaRue's powered resettable target, I have been making my own...... Right now I figure I've spent $78 on a large piece of hardened steel that I cut in a 'man' shape (waste and up) with a plasma cutter, and a 300 lb DC actuator. Got a few more welds and tryin to make a henge system and a button or lever so it can tell when it drops and a cutoff for when it stands back up.

..... I would say that when I'm done, I would have spent maybe less than $100 and maybe 8 hours of my time. But when I finish and want to make more I can make a few more for less than $80 and maybe 2-3 hours each. I'm just a hobbyist, I don't have deep city/county/state/federal money to buy $1000 metal targets.

Somebody needs to make some cheap metal targets, everything I've search for including single skinny poppers cost hundreds of dollars...

Larue, I'm not bashing you guys in any way, but $450 for a metal target is very pricey. IMHO.

They do have overhead you know.

It's not just about materials and man hours, they have to pay licensing fees, liability insurance, workman's comp insurance (all things I doubt you have). Then there's the light bill, the rent, the phone etc etc....it's not cheap or easy being in business in America and they're doing a fine job IMHO.

Posted: 7/8/2011 4:46:16 AM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

I found this:

Recommended caliber distances

Be advised - it is the short, fast bullets (i.e. 5.56) that put the most wear on the target steel....long, slow bullets (i.e. 7.62) can be shot relatively close (25 meters) with little or no effect on the steel, as they expend their energy in a much slower manner. Pistol rounds do no wear whatsoever. These targets are good for pistol and small rifle rounds such as 5.56, 7.62, and 300 Win. Mag., 338 Lapua. DO NOT SHOOT WITH .50 BMG!!!

Always feel free to call for clarification from the LaRue factory - 512-259-1585.

5.56 (223 Rem.)

We recommend a minimum of 100 meters to maximize target life. There are regional training ranges shooting these targets as close as 50 meters....but they also have to budget to occasionally replace/refresh the target plates. This includes green tip.

7.62 (308 Win.)

We recommend a minimum of 50 meters to maximize target life. There are ranges shooting these targets as close as 25 meters....with apparently no ill effects.

300 Win. Mag.

We recommend a minimum of 150 meters to maximize target life. Usually not an issue because most long-gunners use 300 Win. Mags from 300 - 1,200 meters.

338 Lapua

We recommend a minimum of 200 meters to maximize target life. Usually not an issue because most long-gunners use 338 Lapuas from 500 - 2,000 meters.

.50 BMG DO NOT SHOOT WITH .50 BMG!!! The target is not made to withstand the energy of a .50BMG. Something on the target will break if hit by a .50!!!

http://www.laruemedia.com/LaRueTargets/FAST_img.jpg

Clearly we need someone to shoot one with a .50 BMG and post pictures.

Posted: 7/8/2011 5:57:19 AM EDT

[#22]

I've shot 500 brinell plates with 50bmg (ball) before and the rounds just bounce off. Maybe a little dent depending on if the plate is fixed or swinging. 50ap will punch through.

Posted: 7/8/2011 6:54:03 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

I've shot 500 brinell plates with 50bmg (ball) before and the rounds just bounce off. Maybe a little dent depending on if the plate is fixed or swinging. 50ap will punch through.

It think it has more to do with the fact that its 3/8". Its the right steel, but probably not thick enough.

Posted: 7/8/2011 7:45:09 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
I've shot 500 brinell plates with 50bmg (ball) before and the rounds just bounce off. Maybe a little dent depending on if the plate is fixed or swinging. 50ap will punch through.

1/2" is the the thinnest for using .50 on it, the target in question is 3/8"

Posted: 7/9/2011 4:09:18 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
I'm sorry, but why does metal targets cost sooo much?!?

I have a private range on my land about 35-45 minutes away from my home, I have 255 acres, with access to shooting long ranges up to 778 yards.... I would love to have some metal targets to shoot at that react and maybe reset themselves.... I'm not going to pay $1000.00 for a target that stands itself back up!

I love and breath LaRue parts, the best out there with some of the best CS..... But makes me upset that they sorely price their metal targets so high that nobody but agencies can buy them, well most of us can, but not multiple units..... What's fun about shooting one target?

When I first saw LaRue's powered resettable target, I have been making my own...... Right now I figure I've spent $78 on a large piece of hardened steel that I cut in a 'man' shape (waste and up) with a plasma cutter, and a 300 lb DC actuator. Got a few more welds and tryin to make a henge system and a button or lever so it can tell when it drops and a cutoff for when it stands back up.

..... I would say that when I'm done, I would have spent maybe less than $100 and maybe 8 hours of my time. But when I finish and want to make more I can make a few more for less than $80 and maybe 2-3 hours each. I'm just a hobbyist, I don't have deep city/county/state/federal money to buy $1000 metal targets.

Somebody needs to make some cheap metal targets, everything I've search for including single skinny poppers cost hundreds of dollars...

Larue, I'm not bashing you guys in any way, but $450 for a metal target is very pricey. IMHO.

I agree to the extent of, if you dont want to give Mark your money dont. Im sure some slave labored Mexican or Chinese company could come up with the same thing for about $100 each or cheaper but then there is that whole slave labor thing.

Larue is made in the USA, quality built and plays by the rules tax and labor wise. So you can build your own, get a local shop to do it (bet they wont be a lot cheaper) or buy Marks and sleep well at night knowing you gave to the cause and got a great product. Just sayin.

Posted: 7/9/2011 4:25:55 PM EDT

[#26]

Posted: 7/9/2011 6:03:00 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
I'm sorry, but why does metal targets cost sooo much?!?

I have 255 acres, with access to shooting long ranges up to 778 yards.... <snip>

Larue, I'm not bashing you guys in any way, but $450 for a metal target is very pricey. IMHO.

Uh, sell just one of those 255 acres and buy you a passle of targets ?

Posted: 7/9/2011 8:39:26 PM EDT

[#28]

Widener's has the same silhouettes for much less. I can build my own stand.

Posted: 7/10/2011 5:16:09 AM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
Widener's has the same silhouettes for much less. I can build my own stand.

Wrong*.

* Readers should be made aware that "bigkracka" has a large, multilegged creature up his bugkracka when it comes to LaRue-made items, and with few exceptions, never fails to show bug and bug-holding device for anything new made by LaRue.

Posted: 7/10/2011 8:48:54 AM EDT

[#30]

4X4s aren't these days.

I wonder how much slop there will be?

Posted: 7/10/2011 9:53:04 AM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Widener's has the same silhouettes for much less. I can build my own stand.

Wrong*.

* Readers should be made aware that "bigkracka" has a large, multilegged creature up his bugkracka when it comes to LaRue-made items, and with few exceptions, never fails to show bug and bug-holding device for anything new made by LaRue.

They do have 10" circles and silhouettes but I believe the silhouettes are smaller. He does have a point as they are $40. But from what I heard the targets are not actually AR500 and are between 450-475. Plus they might use methods to cut them that may degrade the hardness of teh edges and corners

Posted: 7/10/2011 11:25:43 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Widener's has the same silhouettes for much less. I can build my own stand.

Wrong*.

* Readers should be made aware that "bigkracka" has a large, multilegged creature up his bugkracka when it comes to LaRue-made items, and with few exceptions, never fails to show bug and bug-holding device for anything new made by LaRue.

They do have 10" circles and silhouettes but I believe the silhouettes are smaller. He does have a point as they are $40. But from what I heard the targets are not actually AR500 and are between 450-475. Plus they might use methods to cut them that may degrade the hardness of teh edges and corners

Chunks of bullets bouncing randomly off chain segments, or bolt heads, and the like ... is not what our target is about.

Posted: 7/10/2011 12:08:59 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Chunks of bullets bouncing randomly off chain segments, or bolt heads, and the like ... is not what our target is about.

Teaches you to duck quickly

I admit to having spent years shooting random junk bolted to a chain

shooting the bolt off was the biggest problem. We had one piece of what must have been a hardened steel tractor part that held up for a couple of years of 556 and 762x39 fire and mountains of pistol fire. Unfortunately my buddy asked "Hey what will your hunting rifle do to it?" one day. Apparently it was not rated for 7mm Rem Mag

I deleted my earlier post because I didn't want to be responsible for veering this off track. But I looked a few places and the target part seemed in line with other rifle rated sihouettes, but I had not seen the Wideners stuff before and know nothing about it.

At least with LaRue you know you get it asap. I bought one of those "Beast Rifle Gongs" and I think it took 8 months before I got pissed and asked nice. I finally had to find the guy's home number to get the stupid thing and he was angry at me for calling.

Posted: 7/10/2011 2:28:09 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Chunks of bullets bouncing randomly off chain segments, or bolt heads, and the like ... is not what our target is about.

Teaches you to duck quickly

I admit to having spent years shooting random junk bolted to a chain

shooting the bolt off was the biggest problem. We had one piece of what must have been a hardened steel tractor part that held up for a couple of years of 556 and 762x39 fire and mountains of pistol fire. Unfortunately my buddy asked "Hey what will your hunting rifle do to it?" one day. Apparently it was not rated for 7mm Rem Mag

I deleted my earlier post because I didn't want to be responsible for veering this off track. But I looked a few places and the target part seemed in line with other rifle rated sihouettes, but I had not seen the Wideners stuff before and know nothing about it.

At least with LaRue you know you get it asap. I bought one of those "Beast Rifle Gongs" and I think it took 8 months before I got pissed and asked nice. I finally had to find the guy's home number to get the stupid thing and he was angry at me for calling.

If you are using metal chains you're doing it wrong! I found a really cheap alternative if you are hanging stuff. These rubber straps are about $1 a piece and take a beating.

In all fairness you will not find a target that has a rear "mounting plate" (for lack of better terms) for under several hundred dollars.

Posted: 7/10/2011 3:08:58 PM EDT

[#35]

"I can shoot beer cans for a helluva lot less." - bigkracka's counterpart back in 1993

Yeah, well drinkin' and shootin' ain't supposed to go hand in hand ... plus you got the cost of the beer to figure in.

Posted: 7/13/2011 7:17:31 PM EDT

[#36]

If your round isn't screaming too fast you'll get an audible indicator. Otherwise if the "ping" is covered by the sound of your shot, a buddy with cheap binos will be able to watch you hit the target at longer distances.

Posted: 7/16/2011 6:19:38 PM EDT

[#37]

Lead time?

Posted: 7/22/2011 3:02:42 AM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm sorry, but why does metal targets cost sooo much?!?

I have a private range on my land about 35-45 minutes away from my home, I have 255 acres, with access to shooting long ranges up to 778 yards.... I would love to have some metal targets to shoot at that react and maybe reset themselves.... I'm not going to pay $1000.00 for a target that stands itself back up!

I love and breath LaRue parts, the best out there with some of the best CS..... But makes me upset that they sorely price their metal targets so high that nobody but agencies can buy them, well most of us can, but not multiple units..... What's fun about shooting one target?

When I first saw LaRue's powered resettable target, I have been making my own...... Right now I figure I've spent $78 on a large piece of hardened steel that I cut in a 'man' shape (waste and up) with a plasma cutter, and a 300 lb DC actuator. Got a few more welds and tryin to make a henge system and a button or lever so it can tell when it drops and a cutoff for when it stands back up.

..... I would say that when I'm done, I would have spent maybe less than $100 and maybe 8 hours of my time. But when I finish and want to make more I can make a few more for less than $80 and maybe 2-3 hours each. I'm just a hobbyist, I don't have deep city/county/state/federal money to buy $1000 metal targets.

Somebody needs to make some cheap metal targets, everything I've search for including single skinny poppers cost hundreds of dollars...

Larue, I'm not bashing you guys in any way, but $450 for a metal target is very pricey. IMHO.

I agree to the extent of, if you dont want to give Mark your money dont. Im sure some slave labored Mexican or Chinese company could come up with the same thing for about $100 each or cheaper but then there is that whole slave labor thing.

Larue is made in the USA, quality built and plays by the rules tax and labor wise. So you can build your own, get a local shop to do it (bet they wont be a lot cheaper) or buy Marks and sleep well at night knowing you gave to the cause and got a great product. Just sayin.

Amen!

Posted: 7/29/2011 4:07:53 AM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm sorry, but why does metal targets cost sooo much?!?

I have a private range on my land about 35-45 minutes away from my home, I have 255 acres, with access to shooting long ranges up to 778 yards.... I would love to have some metal targets to shoot at that react and maybe reset themselves.... I'm not going to pay $1000.00 for a target that stands itself back up!

I love and breath LaRue parts, the best out there with some of the best CS..... But makes me upset that they sorely price their metal targets so high that nobody but agencies can buy them, well most of us can, but not multiple units..... What's fun about shooting one target?

When I first saw LaRue's powered resettable target, I have been making my own...... Right now I figure I've spent $78 on a large piece of hardened steel that I cut in a 'man' shape (waste and up) with a plasma cutter, and a 300 lb DC actuator. Got a few more welds and tryin to make a henge system and a button or lever so it can tell when it drops and a cutoff for when it stands back up.

..... I would say that when I'm done, I would have spent maybe less than $100 and maybe 8 hours of my time. But when I finish and want to make more I can make a few more for less than $80 and maybe 2-3 hours each. I'm just a hobbyist, I don't have deep city/county/state/federal money to buy $1000 metal targets.

Somebody needs to make some cheap metal targets, everything I've search for including single skinny poppers cost hundreds of dollars...

Larue, I'm not bashing you guys in any way, but $450 for a metal target is very pricey. IMHO.

I agree to the extent of, if you dont want to give Mark your money dont. Im sure some slave labored Mexican or Chinese company could come up with the same thing for about $100 each or cheaper but then there is that whole slave labor thing.

Larue is made in the USA, quality built and plays by the rules tax and labor wise. So you can build your own, get a local shop to do it (bet they wont be a lot cheaper) or buy Marks and sleep well at night knowing you gave to the cause and got a great product. Just sayin.

Amen!

Amen?..... Amen to what???

This dude went from me saying that I can make my own resettable targets for less than $100 (me, myself and I) to him preaching that some mexican day laborer making them and saying he'd rather buy sumthang made in the US of A!...... WTF???

Is he saying that since that I'm not paying $1000.00 that I'm not supporting Larue?

Don't care what anybody says, my $100.00 target is hellavalot cheaper than buying some companies $1000.00 target, that's the American way!

Why pay for it when I can make it for a tenth of the price.

Sorry Mark, I'll buy all your other little parts like mounts but anything bigger than that, I can't afford it.... :(

Posted: 7/29/2011 8:40:04 AM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:
"I can shoot beer cans for a helluva lot less." - bigkracka's counterpart back in 1993

Yeah, well drinkin' and shootin' ain't supposed to go hand in hand ... plus you got the cost of the beer to figure in.