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Posted: 1/3/2017 12:34:54 PM EDT
Just a short run down of what I got out of this ammo over the weekend. 10 shots of each were fired to test. Rifle was a 16" AIAX 308.
155gr ELD Match #80956 2657 fps from a Labradar, 0.53 MOA at 100 yards. 168gr ELD Match #80966 2530 fps, 0.56 moa Both shot exceptionally well from this rifle, pretty much beating out how FGMM performs from my experience. |
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Posted: 1/3/2017 6:40:42 PM EDT
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Good to hear. The 168 ELD has a good BC for a 168 and will break all those stories of 168s dropping out of the sky at 800 yards from a .308. The 168 SMK is still such an animal but the ELDs are a different beast. At your velocity at 1000 yards at sea level you are still supersonic so should make the trip well. With a longer barrel and getting them to 2750fps they will make 1150. Not too bad.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 12:29:41 AM EDT
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The 178 ELD-X is even better.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 9:34:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bearcat24:
The 178 ELD-X is even better. The 178 EMD-M is another good choice. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 9:59:45 AM EDT
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The ELD-X has better BC than the ELD-M. ELD-X is G1 .552/G7 .278 vs ELD-M is G1 .547/G7 .275.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 10:20:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bearcat24:
The ELD-X has better BC than the ELD-M. ELD-X is G1 .552/G7 .278 vs ELD-M is G1 .547/G7 .275. But it's also a hunting round with a thicker jacket and a higher price tag. The ELD M is a better target shooting option. You won't notice the small .005/.003 BC difference. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 8:15:09 PM EDT
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Will be trying the ELD-M soon. Yes they are cheaper so if they perform, the X will be on stand by!
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Posted: 2/10/2017 11:48:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
Good to hear. The 168 ELD has a good BC for a 168 and will break all those stories of 168s dropping out of the sky at 800 yards from a .308. The 168 SMK is still such an animal but the ELDs are a different beast. At your velocity at 1000 yards at sea level you are still supersonic so should make the trip well. With a longer barrel and getting them to 2750fps they will make 1150. Not too bad. I'm still skeptical because of twist rate. Even up here in the thin air at high altitudes, I watch 155gr AMAX fan apart at 800yds from a 16" barrel. No predictable impact beyond that, other than a wide dispersal around the target. That is one of the biggest problems with .308 at long range-twist rates are too loose. If you spun even an old school 168gr SMK with 1/9, you would have better performance at distance. But since muzzle blast, recoil, and muzzle climb are still what they are, you won't see these improvements change much in competition. I chased 155gr Scenar at high speed for a little while, but had unpredictable performance at distance, which was just not acceptable for ranges much past 700yds. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 1:07:07 AM EDT
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I need to get some ELD .308 in 178 weight to try them against my 175 FGMM SMK's..
I keep hearing how it is smoking 175 SMK's. Haven't heard if it's better than even 175 TMK's yet. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 1:30:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LRRPF52:
I'm still skeptical because of twist rate. Even up here in the thin air at high altitudes, I watch 155gr AMAX fan apart at 800yds from a 16" barrel. No predictable impact beyond that, other than a wide dispersal around the target. That is one of the biggest problems with .308 at long range-twist rates are too loose. If you spun even an old school 168gr SMK with 1/9, you would have better performance at distance. But since muzzle blast, recoil, and muzzle climb are still what they are, you won't see these improvements change much in competition. I chased 155gr Scenar at high speed for a little while, but had unpredictable performance at distance, which was just not acceptable for ranges much past 700yds. The 155 AMAX only has a .435 BC. I wouldn't expect it to make it that far from a 16" barrel but the 168 ELD-M has a .523 BC. Almost a full point above and getting it going at a good velocity it will make 1000 easily. |
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