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Posted: 6/3/2017 3:01:40 PM EDT
Well sometimes I am slow to the newer stuff but now with the factory Hornady 108 ELD load out I figured it was about time to get a 6mm Creedmoor. Hunter Phillips at SK Arms in Midland, TX put a 28" 7.7 twist med palma contour Bartlein barrel with Seekins Precision ATC brake, which made it easy to spot shots, on my Surgeon switch barrel set up and I made it to the range today. Rifle came back on Wednesday but of course I was working the past three days.
The Hornady 108 load shot great as you can see below from the 5 shot group but I didn't get to shoot any farther today. Got the scope zeroed and shot at 100. This was my first 20 rounds through the rifle so figuring the speed to pick up some but the 108 load chronoed at 2960fps from this rifle. Look forward to trying to load up some of the 105 BTHPs I have for my .243 in this and see how they do. 
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Posted: 6/3/2017 3:11:50 PM EDT
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Nice blaster and nice shooting.
Do you plan on competing with it? Such at the PRS series, or such. |
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Posted: 6/3/2017 4:23:17 PM EDT
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Looks awesome
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Posted: 6/3/2017 4:51:43 PM EDT
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Very nice. Any noticible recoil difference going to 6mm?
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Posted: 6/3/2017 5:13:44 PM EDT
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Very nice!
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Posted: 6/3/2017 6:00:22 PM EDT
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Will you be competing with it? I'll be interested in reading your experiences with the 6mm Creed through the season. Barrel life, shot spotting for the score keeper, brass life, 108 eld-m performance since I'm sure you'll get your hands on a couple boxes to try out
Nice setup too. |
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Posted: 6/3/2017 6:13:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TeeRex]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Calculating:
Will you be competing with it? I'll be interested in reading your experiences with the 6mm Creed through the season. Barrel life, shot spotting for the score keeper, brass life, 108 eld-m performance since I'm sure you'll get your hands on a couple boxes to try out
Nice setup too. |
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Posted: 6/3/2017 6:49:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rob01]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Calculating:
Will you be competing with it? I'll be interested in reading your experiences with the 6mm Creed through the season. Barrel life, shot spotting for the score keeper, brass life, 108 eld-m performance since I'm sure you'll get your hands on a couple boxes to try out
Nice setup too. That group above is he factory 108 ELD load. They shoot really good. There is less recoil than the 6.5 but even the 6.5 with a brake isn't bad. |
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Posted: 6/3/2017 10:27:37 PM EDT
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Very nice, Rob! I have been holding strong with trying to stay in the 6.5 realm, but a good friend has been running a 6SLR recently, and he's been crushing it. Not to mention, dude is obviously a damn good shooter, but the round seems very appealing. He just uses Winchester .243 brass, runs it through the SLR die. You get a really long neck and they don't need any turning. He's hitting a 110SMK (stupid BC on those, by the way) at 3080.
I should be picking up my new 6.5 Creedmoor this week, but the barrel on one of my .260's is almost toast, so I am now contemplating trying a 6. Many guys are rocking the Dasher, but I just hate the thought of needing to fire form every piece of brass just to get started. The SLR and the 6CM are looking very appealing. Please keep us posted. |
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Posted: 6/4/2017 8:15:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALex:
Very nice, Rob! I have been holding strong with trying to stay in the 6.5 realm, but a good friend has been running a 6SLR recently, and he's been crushing it. Not to mention, dude is obviously a damn good shooter, but the round seems very appealing. He just uses Winchester .243 brass, runs it through the SLR die. You get a really long neck and they don't need any turning. He's hitting a 110SMK (stupid BC on those, by the way) at 3080. I should be picking up my new 6.5 Creedmoor this week, but the barrel on one of my .260's is almost toast, so I am now contemplating trying a 6. Many guys are rocking the Dasher, but I just hate the thought of needing to fire form every piece of brass just to get started. The SLR and the 6CM are looking very appealing. Please keep us posted. People who shoot dasher and do well with it, are ones who can definitely call wind better than I can. It's an efficient case, but like you said the fire forming sucks, the guys running it at 3000 aren't saving much barrel life. |
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Posted: 6/4/2017 8:22:22 AM EDT
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Yeah the SLR is interesting but I like having the option to have factory ammo if need be. I was contemplating a Dasher and talked to Josh at PVA about it because he runs one and builds quite a few. I didn't like the fireform side but you can buy formed brass at about $115/100 but then you need the right chamber for that Norma Dasher. Not to mention the magazines usually work but Josh sells the mag adapters for 100% reliability.
The Creedmoor seemed like a better option for me. Having relatively inexpensive factory ammo and brass and giving good performance is a win/win. I didn't even need to buy new dies as my 6.5 Creedmoor bushing die works perfectly with just dropping my .270 bushing in there and my .243 seater works although I will probably get a 6mm Creedmoor specific seater at one point. |
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Posted: 6/5/2017 2:34:48 PM EDT
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Interesting about the bushing die. I was considering a 6mm creedmoor gas gun and that little tidbit makes it a little more appealing.
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Posted: 6/5/2017 2:57:47 PM EDT
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Yeah it was stupid simple with just switching out the bushing. Worked perfect.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 6/9/2017 1:32:08 AM EDT
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Congrats on the new setup.
I really enjoy shooting 6mms. I've had a 6mm Remington and now a 6x47L. The part I like is how versatile they are, put the 87 Vmax in and shoot varmints, load a match bullet and shoot benchrest, or enjoy a day nailing steel at 1300 with a 105 or 110 grain bullet. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/9/2017 7:30:47 AM EDT
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My buddy Wes switched from 6.5 to 6 creedmoor this year for PRS and he said he wished he would have sooner, he couldn't believe how much better spotting misses and follow up shots were since 6.5 isn't exactly a heavy recoil anyway. He said it is night and day.
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Posted: 6/9/2017 8:54:03 AM EDT
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I don't think I would call the recoil reduction night and day. Same with the ability to sot your shots. With a god brake neither recoil much. There is a slight reduction in the recoil with the 6mms but both can be run effectively.
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Posted: 6/9/2017 9:50:24 AM EDT
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So you are in CT and had a guy from my hometown build you a rifle? I didn't know there were any smiths in Midland but I did move away in the late 80's.
Nice rifle, are you sponsored by Hornady? |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 10:41:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rob01]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vortech347:
So you are in CT and had a guy from my hometown build you a rifle? I didn't know there were any smiths in Midland but I did move away in the late 80's. Nice rifle, are you sponsored by Hornady? Thanks. Yes I am. |
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Posted: 6/9/2017 10:47:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
Yup. Know people all over lol If you move back you will have a good local smith. Thanks. Yes I am. Cool to be sponsored. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2017 7:37:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
I don't think I would call the recoil reduction night and day. Same with the ability to sot your shots. With a god brake neither recoil much. There is a slight reduction in the recoil with the 6mms but both can be run effectively. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 10:14:54 AM EDT
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I pulled the trigger on components for a 6mm CM as well, granted I'm doing a semi-auto.
Does the 6mm creedmoor use the same case headspace gage as the 6.5 creedmoor? I already have a Wilson 6.5 gage and it doesn't look like they make one for 6mm CM. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 1:25:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lennyo3034:
I pulled the trigger on components for a 6mm CM as well, granted I'm doing a semi-auto. Does the 6mm creedmoor use the same case headspace gage as the 6.5 creedmoor? I already have a Wilson 6.5 gage and it doesn't look like they make one for 6mm CM. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 1:39:24 PM EDT
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Nice setup and initial results Rob. I am itching to get one of my rifles back into 6mm, and this factory ammo might be the trick.
Comments on the 6SLR - I really enjoyed mine back when I had time to reload. It actually shot most consistently when I was using first-time brass prior to a "fireform", I would just run (sorted) Winchester .243 brass into the Redding SLR bushing dies and go. I ran 115's, as the newer bullets didn't exist yet. Sucker was a laser and soft on recoil for sure. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 6/20/2017 5:54:42 PM EDT
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Have you tried setting back your barrels at the expected end of life? With the overall all length you have, a 1.25-1.5" setback will not give up too much velocity and you should get another 1000 or more rounds out of it.
Krieger and Satern both recommend doing that, but it seems like no one is talking about it anymore. I have extended barrels to double their expected like, even shooting 80gr 22/250's, like the 6.5x284, those are serious barrel burners. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:29:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By F224:
Have you tried setting back your barrels at the expected end of life? With the overall all length you have, a 1.25-1.5" setback will not give up too much velocity and you should get another 1000 or more rounds out of it. Krieger and Satern both recommend doing that, but it seems like no one is talking about it anymore. I have extended barrels to double their expected like, even shooting 80gr 22/250's, like the 6.5x284, those are serious barrel burners. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:44:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By F224:
Have you tried setting back your barrels at the expected end of life? With the overall all length you have, a 1.25-1.5" setback will not give up too much velocity and you should get another 1000 or more rounds out of it. Krieger and Satern both recommend doing that, but it seems like no one is talking about it anymore. I have extended barrels to double their expected like, even shooting 80gr 22/250's, like the 6.5x284, those are serious barrel burners. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:31:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: austinconnect]
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Has anyone tried the new 103gr ELD-X hunting load from Hornady?
I'm enjoying the 108gr ELD in my RPR but I'd love to find an ammo for shooting varmints from really far away. I have a .204 that is just fantastic within 400 yards. The .204 VMAX bullets have some insane expansion. I wish Hornady made a 6CM VMAX load. Has anyone had any success handloading the 87gr VMAX for 6CM? Is that too light for a 1:7 or 1:8 twist rate? |
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