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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:28:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Finslayer83]
Ordered a .223 Remington sps 16.5" heavy barrel this morning.
Goal is to make a neat little M40A1 homage which I can toss my YHM can on and plink away. So far I've ordered / have: R700 sps 16.5" EGW rail B&C M40A1 stock Vortex PST 2.5-10x32 FFP TPS TSR SL 30mm rings YHM QD mount Random bipod (I think Caldwell) What I need: Bottom metal that can work with factory stock Harris bipod |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:39:46 AM EDT
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Why change out the factory bottom metal? The M40 had hinged bottom metal so the Remington set up will work fine.
If you were looking for a dbm I think PTG offers a drop in unit but it doesn't use AICS mags. I think it uses their mags but would have to check. http://pacifictoolandgauge.com/remington-700-detachable-mag-bottom-metal-dbm/10069-remington-700-sa-oberndorf-bottom-metal-bdl-dbm.html |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:44:13 AM EDT
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I guess I should say M40 themed as there will be much leeway taken here and there.
But I'm not in a rush on he DBM or stock - just in the planning phase. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:02:37 AM EDT
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If M40 "mini" clone is your goal, then I agree...stick with the factory metal. Plus you'll save cash lol
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:27:12 AM EDT
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Are the OEM hogue stocks garbage or serviceable ?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:44:28 AM EDT
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Id put it in an htg stock. If not then what is really m40 about it?
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:52:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
Are the OEM hogue stocks garbage or serviceable ? Nothing wrong with building a rifle the way you want it so if you want an M40ish style then do what you want with it. That DBM I linked above would work for a cheap DBM or you could go with the Magpul stock and DBM. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:24:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:55:40 PM EDT
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That will be better than the Hogue stock it comes with.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:55:53 PM EDT
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Fin. The Hogue stock is complete trash if you are going to be shooting off of a bipod at all. I just got an older .223 700 varmint for the same purpose. Rifle is good and shoots good groups but has 1:12 twist which sucks for trying to shoot much distance. My plan is to just shoot the piss out of it until I burn out the barrel then put on a quality 1:7. I replaced my stock with a stocky's long range composite. I think I paid 180 for an unpainted one. I know this isn't quite what you were after though for an m40 theme, just thought I'd throw it out there. For the money I am very impressed with the stock. Stockys is very good people too, give them a call if you have any questions. Hope this helps
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:59:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By INgunner54:
Fin. The Hogue stock is complete trash if you are going to be shooting off of a bipod at all. I just got an older .223 700 varmint for the same purpose. Rifle is good and shoots good groups but has 1:12 twist which sucks for trying to shoot much distance. My plan is to just shoot the piss out of it until I burn out the barrel then put on a quality 1:7. I replaced my stock with a stocky's long range composite. I think I paid 180 for an unpainted one. I know this isn't quite what you were after though for an m40 theme, just thought I'd throw it out there. For the money I am very impressed with the stock. Stockys is very good people too, give them a call if you have any questions. Hope this helps |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 1:42:06 PM EDT
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B&C stock ordered.
Now to get some paint |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2017 1:55:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
B&C stock ordered. Now to get some paint |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 2:33:19 PM EDT
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good choice Fin
I am getting the Bell and Carlson Tactical Varmint for my Howa 1500 Heavy Barrel 6.5 |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2017 3:18:38 PM EDT
[#14]
You may want to change the title
You want a M40A1 not a M40 |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 3:36:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Finslayer83]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usmcchet9296:
You may want to change the title You want a M40A1 not a M40 Because I have it and it's a good scope I'm going to use a PST 2.5-10x32 FFP on this build. Will the .87" rings from vortex work well? I'm terrible at figuring out ring height. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2017 6:21:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Ordered a .223 Remington sps 16.5" heavy barrel this morning. You do know the M40 has a 24" tube? |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 7:46:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MitchAlsup:
You do know the M40 has a 24" tube? Also in .308 It's just a themed gun - not cloning anything really here. Just a fun little package to use as a host for a can I don't shoot with that often |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:02:02 PM EDT
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what did you decide on the bottom metal?
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:12:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tinytim54:
what did you decide on the bottom metal? Really want to keep it under $150 and to be honest outside of the PTG link above I don't know where to start looking. Also not sure what works with the B&C stock |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:14:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
Thinking about this one Put my savage in that stock after shooting a couple M40's and getting to like that style stock...I really like it |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:23:11 PM EDT
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I recently ordered a greyboe. I think made by the McMillan family or at least associated with McMillan. Significantly lower price point.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:47:17 PM EDT
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I've always wanted to build a m40a1 .223 clone, can't wait to see you finished build even if it's not an exact clone
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Posted: 4/21/2017 11:20:12 PM EDT
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Maybe a fixed 10x scope. Maybe an mst100? Lol swfa would be a good choice
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Posted: 4/22/2017 11:18:30 AM EDT
[#24]
Quick question
Fully aware of the chamber differences in .223/5.56 - but have been told that Remington's have a very generous throat and that M193/Mk262 is shootable in these. Good to go or just stick to my .223 ammo? |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2017 12:09:04 PM EDT
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This is a cool idea. Looking forward to seeing the process and results.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2017 4:32:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
Quick question Fully aware of the chamber differences in .223/5.56 - but have been told that Remington's have a very generous throat and that M193/Mk262 is shootable in these. Good to go or just stick to my .223 ammo? |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 5:28:14 PM EDT
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I would stay .223. No need for 5.56 in a bolt gun anyway.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:34:23 PM EDT
[#28]
Perfect!
I've got a ton of wolf gold for plinking and will get some FGGM for group work. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:34:14 PM EDT
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I have a few pictures of the m40a3 I was issued
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2017 8:24:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
Quick question Fully aware of the chamber differences in .223/5.56 - but have been told that Remington's have a very generous throat and that M193/Mk262 is shootable in these. Good to go or just stick to my .223 ammo? I have a bit, if you'd like to try some maybe we can work a trade. If i were you I'd try FGMM or BH 69 or 77 223 loads. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2017 10:00:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aby001:
Not sure if you can still find it, but Australian Outback 223 69 smk has always shot lights out for me. It's comparable to BH 5.56 69 smk just less velocity. I have a bit, if you'd like to try some maybe we can work a trade. If i were you I'd try FGMM or BH 69 or 77 223 loads. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 11:39:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By md7989:
I concur, as there's a reason I stockpiled about 1500 rounds of the ADI 69 SMKs when Sam at SGAmmo could still get it. It's a shame the cost is too high for him to now and that Cabelas stopped carrying it |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 12:05:06 AM EDT
[#33]
Start hitting me with bottom metal ideas
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2017 12:26:43 PM EDT
[#34]
remington 700 aac 300 blackout 16.5 inch barrel , leupold 2.5x8 m1 , bell and carlson m40a1 . cadwell bipod , yhm 7.62 phantom suppressor . this should be pretty close to where your going other than the caliber.
the b&c stock is 100 times better than the houge you will like it . 
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Posted: 4/23/2017 12:36:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwb47:
remington 700 aac 300 blackout 16.5 inch barrel , leupold 2.5x8 m1 , bell and carlson m40a1 . cadwell bipod , yhm 7.62 phantom suppressor . this should be pretty close to where your going other than the caliber. the b&c stock is 100 times better than the houge you will like it . http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f247/jwb47/9845FC17-CDB9-49C1-ACE7-6386D8A360E2_zps70rksnp3.jpg Yup more or less what it will look like. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:28:01 AM EDT
[#36]
For $55 at midway currently I snagged a magpul dbm and will get out mr dremel to make it fit.
Any 223 aics mags out there? 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:09:46 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
For $55 at midway currently I snagged a magpul dbm and will get out mr dremel to make it fit. Any 223 aics mags out there? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:56:18 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
Quick question Fully aware of the chamber differences in .223/5.56 - but have been told that Remington's have a very generous throat and that M193/Mk262 is shootable in these. Good to go or just stick to my .223 ammo? |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2017 1:45:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sigman68]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
For $55 at midway currently I snagged a magpul dbm and will get out mr dremel to make it fit. Any 223 aics mags out there? Also, I have the factory Hogue stock on my 223 16.5 SPS and it works fine. I wouldn't be so sure with the 308 but with the light recoil of the 223, it hasn't posed an issue with the gun turning in sub MOA groups with over 400 rounds fired using a Harris bipod. I have shot 5.56 ammo in mine and the big issue is the generous firing pin hole on the Remington bolt face causing primers to flow a little although I have never pierced a primer. I shoot mostly reloads in mine and it likes the Hornady 75 BTHP. They are a blast to shoot! |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 3:04:16 PM EDT
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Fin
you going to custom paint this rig or what? |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 3:51:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mnwhiskeyman:
Fin you going to custom paint this rig or what? Not sure what pattern I'll do yet. Base color will be aervoe coyote and I think I might just do green stripes on it. Did a test run on the 12.5" sbr over the weekend.  Attached File@dirtdivision But not sure - we will have to see what happens once I start spraying. With that said the following arrived today:  Attached File Attached FileAnd  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 4:55:27 PM EDT
[#42]
Fantastic
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2017 11:14:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sigman68]
[#43]
That's good progress.
I forgot to mention that I was able to get my X-mark Pro trigger down to a safe and reliable 2.7lbs by doing some things the factory did not intend for me to do but it works well. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 9:40:51 PM EDT
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2017 9:27:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
Forgive the crappy pic. Didn't want to mess with the camera. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/164007/IMG-2091-196786.JPG |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 11:05:12 AM EDT
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At the range now.
She's a pussycat. Been dominating the plates at 300y and having a hoot at 500y. The wind is giving me .5-1 mil hold at 500 but I'm also shooting my wolf gold ar fodder. Need to get some 69 grain loads |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2017 12:08:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sigman68]
[#47]
That is coming together nicely.
On edit: I see that you are shooting! I would jump right to a 77 grain load as you are losing some velocity with the 16" barrel. Mine shoots the 75 BTHP Hornady better than the 68 for some reason. If you don't reload, this is a great reason to start. You can make match ammo for the cost of the Wolf Gold 55 FMJ. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 12:37:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sigman68:
That is coming together nicely. On edit: I see that you are shooting! I would jump right to a 77 grain load as you are losing some velocity with the 16" barrel. Mine shoots the 75 BTHP Hornady better than the 68 for some reason. If you don't reload, this is a great reason to start. You can make match ammo for the cost of the Wolf Gold 55 FMJ. That said nice 223 loads would be great as well as all the 6.5CM I burn through. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2017 12:58:29 PM EDT
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Time is an issue for me as well but it does get dark outside
I have been playing with loading match grade 223 on my Dillon 1050 and so far I am having good success, with a loading rate at 400 an hour, and two five shot groups well under MOA. I wouldn't win a benchrest competition with that but for banging steel it works great. The best part about the 1050 is the primer pocket swager. If you buy commercial brass or get processed milsurp brass, then you won't have to worry about it and could use a lower cost press like a Lee turret or a Dillon 550. I have loaded some pretty good rifle ammo on my 550. Next I am working on a semi automatic annealer to reuse some of the brass that has been shot multiple times. You won't save any money reloading but you will end up shooting 2-3x more 
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Posted: 4/28/2017 3:03:37 PM EDT
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