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Posted: 2/20/2017 3:58:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: slappomatt]
I used to have a rem 700P in .223 and it was fun. Then the accuracy bug bit and I had a 28" Pac-nor 6mmBR barrel put on it, action trued and lapped fireing pin bushed etc.... But hand loading is a pain and I want a fun tactical looking bolt gun for mid range plinking with cheap ammo. What are my options for close to 1K?
I know of the Ruger gunsite and the precision rifle. what else is there? Tikka T3X in .223 looks decent. bonus points for "chassis" rifles. |
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SD, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2017 4:09:00 PM EDT
[#1]
My rem 700 tactical in Magpul stock with 10rd accurate mags is a lot of fun. good looking too
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Posted: 2/20/2017 4:11:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: slappomatt]
[#2]
yeah I kinda want something different as I already have a Remington and most of my shooting buddies also have Remingtons. The Tikka looks neat. Guess the ruger precision isnt available in .223 and its gone up in price? thought it was right at 1K but looks higher now.
ETA Magpul Remington also not available in .223 |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2017 4:50:10 PM EDT
[#3]
Moss berg mvp or predator...
Results with my 243 patriot this weekend....plus the mvp and predator take AR mags 
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Posted: 2/20/2017 5:36:24 PM EDT
[#4]
If buying a factory .223 right now it would be this one.
http://www.eurooptic.com/JRTXH312-Tikka-Tikka-T3x-Varmint-223-Rem-237--barrel-MPN-JRT.aspx |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2017 8:05:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
If buying a factory .223 right now it would be this one. http://www.eurooptic.com/JRTXH312-Tikka-Tikka-T3x-Varmint-223-Rem-237--barrel-MPN-JRT.aspx Rob, any idea what OAL the factory Tikka 223 magazine allows? |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 8:27:06 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By avboiler11:
Rob, any idea what OAL the factory Tikka 223 magazine allows? No I don't sorry but it has to be at least the length of an AR mag like the MVP uses. I searched around and saw there was a place selling Tikka mags that go out to 2.6" but not sure of the OAL for the factory mags. MDT mags say they work with the Tika too and they go to 2.55". |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 8:44:27 PM EDT
[#7]
i bought the t3 CTR version of what Rob posted from Tikka and its one of my favorite rifles to shoot supressed
i swear i am jinxed when i buy remington rifles because something is always wrong with it.. but if you look at buds guns and sort the rifles by price they have a 1/9 Remington 700 XCR Compact Tactical .223 20" and 26" bbl Remington 700 XCR TACT 223 GRN/BLK. probably also a 1/9 the first thing i would replace is the trigger.. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2017 10:18:35 PM EDT
[#8]
Not really cheap to shoot but the Savage BA Stealth comes in 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor for under a grand. I picked one up in Creedmoor for $898 shipped to my FFL. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but from the reviews it's a pretty accurate rifle.
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Posted: 2/20/2017 10:45:35 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By avboiler11:
Rob, any idea what OAL the factory Tikka 223 magazine allows? Just stuck the caliper in my factory Tikka mag and came up with ~2.310 |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 12:54:57 AM EDT
[#10]
I see mossberg has some interesting looking rifles in .223 but I am not a fan of the brand so they are not an option for me. what kind of accuracy are people seeing with the ruger gunsite rifles?
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2017 1:12:42 AM EDT
[#11]
I like my Remington 700 tactical, .223, 20" heavy barrel 1:9 twist. Has a cheap hogue Stock but it's a good shooter.
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Posted: 2/21/2017 8:09:44 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spearjunkie:
Not really cheap to shoot but the Savage BA Stealth comes in 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor for under a grand. I picked one up in Creedmoor for $898 shipped to my FFL. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but from the reviews it's a pretty accurate rifle. Might want to reread the title of the post: "want a fun .223 tactical bolt gun."  
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2017 9:28:48 AM EDT
[#13]
Never had a bolt gun in 223 that I didn't think was the greatest thing in the world
 If I were to have another I would look at the Savage Precision Carbine.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2017 7:13:25 PM EDT
[#14]
Why not Ruger gunsite in 223? Solid action, short fun and accurate enough for midrange plinking.
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Posted: 2/21/2017 9:59:50 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plove:
Why not Ruger gunsite in 223? Solid action, short fun and accurate enough for midrange plinking. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 3:36:41 PM EDT
[#16]
Aren't all tikkas considered "long action"?
I am looking for a .223 that I can load 80gr projos and feed from a dbm. The tikka 8 twist may work but not sure of the COAL. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2017 11:15:09 PM EDT
[#17]
Check out the Ruger American Rifle Ranch in 5.56/223. Or a Mossberg MVP LR in 5.56/223. I have a Patrol 5.56 in a MDT chassis that I love to shoot.
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CT, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2017 6:08:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PhatForrest]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ef4life:
I like my Remington 700 tactical, .223, 20" heavy barrel 1:9 twist. Has a cheap hogue Stock but it's a good shooter. Picked one up with a 1/9 16.5" threaded barrel, tossed the Hogue stock for a B&C M40, and put a SWFA 10x mil/mil on top. Makes one heck of a fun package, especially combined with your suppressor of choice. It goes to the range with me almost every trip, easily one of my favorite rifles. |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 9:51:34 AM EDT
[#19]
You rang?
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Posted: 2/23/2017 9:59:43 AM EDT
[#20]
Got something similar just done Chuck by Josh at Patriot Valley Arms but it was more than the budget of the OP. I put a 7.7 twist barrel on it so it could handle the 75grn bullets better.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2017 11:33:46 AM EDT
[#21]
It is really really really too bad that Remington won't introduce the AAC-SD or 16.5" Tactical in 223 Wylde with a 1:7 twist.
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Posted: 2/23/2017 1:56:12 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChuckD05:
You rang? http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy180/chuckd05/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160731_121839.jpg great to see the Vortex strongly represented in this thread. Love my 3 PST's
How about some details on this fine looking rig? |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 2:12:22 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By avboiler11:
It is really really really too bad that Remington won't introduce the AAC-SD or 16.5" Tactical in 223 Wylde with a 1:7 twist. |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 2:18:51 PM EDT
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I think I would have to give the Mossberg MVP Patrol a serious look.
Buddies step dad used one for Coyotes and it was a neat little package. 
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Posted: 2/23/2017 2:49:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 03PSD]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotuonpaper:
I think I would have to give the Mossberg MVP Patrol a serious look. Buddies step dad used one for Coyotes and it was a neat little package. http://loungecdn.luckygunner.com/lounge/media/mossberg-tree.jpg Yes, neat little package and the price is right. Wish it was available in something faster then a 9 twist.  They make a 20" 7 twist but that will require a trip to ADCO or similar for cut and thread. Still may be worth it. 
Anyone played with the Mossberg rifles much? How do they shoot? Thoughts in general? |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 4:02:16 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03PSD:
great to see the Vortex strongly represented in this thread. Love my 3 PST's
How about some details on this fine looking rig? BC medalist m40 stock hydrodipped in multicam Was originally a 22" 700. Chamber set back and re cut to 223 Wylde Chopped to 16.5" Badger bolt knob Action trued Fde cerakote Surefire brake Stepdown cut in barrel to fit suppressor lock ring FFP 6-24 Trigger lightened up to about 2.5-3lb Seekins top rail in 20moa Atlas bipod Ptg bottom metal with AI mag |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 5:03:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rob01]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03PSD:
Yes, neat little package and the price is right. Wish it was available in something faster then a 9 twist. They make a 20" 7 twist but that will require a trip to ADCO or similar for cut and thread. Still may be worth it.
Anyone played with the Mossberg rifles much? How do they shoot? Thoughts in general? They do offer a 7 twist version with threaded barrel but having to use AR mags kind of sucks with these and heavier bullets. http://www.mossberg.com/product/mvp-lr-rifle-27696/ |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 6:12:45 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
They do offer a 7 twist version with threaded barrel but having to use AR mags kind of sucks with these and heavier bullets. http://www.mossberg.com/product/mvp-lr-rifle-27696/ |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 6:30:20 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03PSD:
Yeah, I am finding that out. I guess there is no "best of both worlds". That 7 twist should handle 77gr as long as the mag will permit, but i am sure you would still be leaving performance on the table not being able to load them longer. IOW, the mag length is going to be the limiting factor, not the barrel twist. If this is the case then is there even any point in going with a 1:7? would a 8 or 9 twist with the heaviest bullets they can shoot, maybe 69gr, be a better choice? 8 twist will shoot up to 80s no problem. This is why I recommended the Tikka. Good barrel length and twist for long range. If you had a 9 twist the 68/69grns would be a good choice. Some work with the 75/77 if long enough barrel to get the velocity up. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/23/2017 9:39:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:31:18 PM EDT
[#32]
Does anyone make an ar mag rem. 700 dbm setup?
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Posted: 2/24/2017 6:02:28 PM EDT
[#33]
Anyone have a Ruger American Predator? It has a 22" barrel with a 1:8 twist. Will that work with 77's?
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Posted: 2/24/2017 6:18:37 PM EDT
[#34]
I was kicking around the idea of getting a 5.56 Ruger American Ranch and an MDT LSS chassis which would run around $800 total. The RAR is 1-8" twist and by all accounts I've read is a good shooter.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 6:19:16 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NS68RT:
Anyone have a Ruger American Predator? It has a 22" barrel with a 1:8 twist. Will that work with 77's? 1-8 works great with 77's |
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USA
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Posted: 2/24/2017 8:00:14 PM EDT
[#36]
I truly believe Ruger is fucking up by not chambering an RPR in .223. They're rolling out a 6CM, which is great, but a longer throated .223 would be bitchin'!
If money is no object, I'd definitely roll the Tikka T3. Though, I would also consider a CZ 527. Then again, I know Savage is offering many of their rifles in chassis', but I don't see any .223's being offered. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 2/24/2017 8:25:42 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALex:
I truly believe Ruger is fucking up by not chambering an RPR in .223. They're rolling out a 6CM, which is great, but a longer throated .223 would be bitchin'! It would need to be 20" long, threaded 1/2-28, 1:7 twist to properly stabilize the 80 VLD/ELD, and chambered in Wylde or PTG 223 Rem Match. One problem is magazines...maybe Ruger can convince Magpul to make a Pmag 5.56AC that supports 2.60"(ish) OALs. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:39:05 PM EDT
[#38]
yeah so many ways to go about this but none that really do it for me. I cant bring myself to drop $1000 on a ruger gunsite with a platic trigger guard. Really? Mossberg is out cause I'm a hater, I dont want another remington as they are great.... once you replace every part on it. and the Tikka looks neat but again its $1000 and comes in a plastic stock.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:31:27 PM EDT
[#39]
I have the ruger American ranch .223/5.56 it will absolutely amaze you with 55g vmaxes(I shoot pennys @100) 77g black hills is 1.5"@ 100 and 77g Norma match is .75@100. I haven't had time to hand load for it but I'm sure groups could be much improved with 77's. It's a great rifle but I had to fine tune the barrel channel to free float and the mags suck but function as they should. I put a leupold mark AR on top and screwed an aac flash hider for night hunting couldn't have asked for better results for the money spent. The best part is if you want to rebarrel patriot valley does a prefit now! After all the American action looks an awful lot like a ruger precision action after you strip it down
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Posted: 2/24/2017 11:08:57 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpikeDiesel:
I have the ruger American ranch .223/5.56 it will absolutely amaze you with 55g vmaxes(I shoot pennys @100) 77g black hills is 1.5"@ 100 and 77g Norma match is .75@100. I haven't had time to hand load for it but I'm sure groups could be much improved with 77's. It's a great rifle but I had to fine tune the barrel channel to free float and the mags suck but function as they should. I put a leupold mark AR on top and screwed an aac flash hider for night hunting couldn't have asked for better results for the money spent. The best part is if you want to rebarrel patriot valley does a prefit now! After all the American action looks an awful lot like a ruger precision action after you strip it down |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2017 12:29:28 AM EDT
[#41]
have you looked at the howa mini actions ? they look pretty interesting . I do have a mossberg mvp thunder ranch model in 5.56 . it has an 18 inch threaded barrel and is 1/9 twist . I prefer lancer 10 round mags .
I have shot 53 grain v-max , 55 grain , frederal fmg , 62 grain surplus , 62 grain barnes tsx ,68 grain smk , and factory loaded hornady 75 grain super performance . except for the 62 grain green tips and the 75 grain hornady I average around .895 moa . I really dont have the the rifle set up for long range shooting since where I live 300 yds would be the max avalible due to hills and trees . Coyotes , bobcats , , ground hogs and other varmints are my targets and as much as I like and use this rifle I would suggest if your looking to launch bullets heavier than 68 grain look else where or for one of the mvp-lr with a 1/7 twist . yeah I really need to invest in a smaller 5.56 suppressor I think the yhm 7.62 can weighs more than the rifle . 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/2/2017 12:33:27 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PhatForrest:
Picked one up with a 1/9 16.5" threaded barrel, tossed the Hogue stock for a B&C M40, and put a SWFA 10x mil/mil on top. Makes one heck of a fun package, especially combined with your suppressor of choice. It goes to the range with me almost every trip, easily one of my favorite rifles. What bullets are you putting down range with yours? I order 69 and 77 Federal Sierra Match King BTHP's to try with mine. 1/9 16.5" barrel, Surefire Break and SOCOM 5.56 RC Suppressor. I did a lot of calculations and the length and suppressor knock the velocity down about 171 FPS, but it should stabilize one of those two bullets well, and get me hitting targets out to 600yrds. Well see... Currently has a Leopold VR-X Patrol 3-9--but I've ordered a PST Gen II 3-15x44 FFP EBR-2C MRAD and a Magpul Hunter 700 stock. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/2/2017 12:36:05 PM EDT
[#43]
You should be able to get 77s above 2600fps.
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Posted: 3/2/2017 12:54:28 PM EDT
[#44]
Not really tactical, but I've always wanted a CZ-527. Some models are more tactical than others, but I like the Lux:
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Posted: 3/2/2017 1:21:38 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwb47:
have you looked at the howa mini actions ? they look pretty interesting . I do have a mossberg mvp thunder ranch model in 5.56 . it has an 18 inch threaded barrel and is 1/9 twist . I prefer lancer 10 round mags . I have shot 53 grain v-max , 55 grain , frederal fmg , 62 grain surplus , 62 grain barnes tsx ,68 grain smk , and factory loaded hornady 75 grain super performance . except for the 62 grain green tips and the 75 grain hornady I average around .895 moa . I really dont have the the rifle set up for long range shooting since where I live 300 yds would be the max avalible due to hills and trees . Coyotes , bobcats , , ground hogs and other varmints are my targets and as much as I like and use this rifle I would suggest if your looking to launch bullets heavier than 68 grain look else where or for one of the mvp-lr with a 1/7 twist . yeah I really need to invest in a smaller 5.56 suppressor I think the yhm 7.62 can weighs more than the rifle . I was about ready to go with this exactly but the more I researched them online the more my warm fuzzy feeling turned to a headache. There are videos of them not being able to hold 1 MOA with match ammo and having been returned to Mossburg to be rebarrelled and still have accuracy problems. I realize they are a $700-800 rifle but if any rifle cant shoot 1 MOA today out of the box with factory match ammo, it simply isnt worth even the relatively inexpensive price tag. I decided I am going to just go the custom route for a .223 and do my best to keep it reasonably priced 
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Posted: 3/6/2017 12:21:52 AM EDT
[#46]
I was looking around to see what I could get locally to avoid having to pay for the transfer and found a fairly new shop here that looks decent, full of Ex Military guys pumped up about 2A, Owner said he could get me the Tikka Varmint for 820 cash plus dros. So I went for it. have the mountain tactical railed angled scope base already so as soon as it gets in I'll go get the Dros going.
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Posted: 3/9/2017 12:44:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lennyo3034]
[#47]
Does the can look a little small compared to the rest of the rifle? Maybe that means I need another can. Perhaps a thunder beast? |
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Posted: 3/9/2017 10:48:15 PM EDT
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I'll help push you over the ledge and say yes the can looks small. I don't think it does, but I'll tell you whatever you need to hear to buy a thunderbeast. The first day my Ultra got out of jail I went and shot it. Later that day I bought another one, those Ultra's are just awesome. I actually shot my buddies AI today with the Ultra 7, sounded great. I think he is now gonna have to buy one too.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/10/2017 2:24:03 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slappomatt:
Does anyone make an ar mag rem. 700 dbm setup? |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 12:40:21 PM EDT
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