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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
18" 6.5 Grendel with some custom McCourt 120 Bergers ... I see 1 MOA possibilities http://www.larue.com/media/img/image7.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Euronymous:
[url=http://s302.photobucket.com/user/Euronymous_666/media/20170816_164824_zpszowc51qr.jpg.html]http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn85/Euronymous_666/th_20170816_164824_zpszowc51qr.jpg[/URL does that count? Savage b17 3 shots at 50yd..lol Wish my obr shot that well? View Quote This is a contest with rules. You must follow the rules to participate. |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Would all of these be approved bags? It was mentioned that the Armageddon X-wing had a "V", but it's not different than the Midway small bag or the Wiebad Barricade bag...or any bag really; if you apply pressure in the middle the sides will tend to rise. They all will require hand pressure, and likely less than the triad Wedgie, which is approved. Not looking to be argumentative, just trying to get some clarification and perhaps discussion going. I'd hate to use any equipment that isn't approved. Referenced cartridge is a 260 Remington. https://i.imgur.com/GDGIKtG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5GpRE8j.jpg View Quote But now they let all kinds of bags in the contest. I have no idea what is legal now. It is silly. |
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Most bags allowed are the size of your hand. No big V-bags
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Originally Posted By akethan:
Most bags allowed are the size of your hand. No big V-bags View Quote AccuracyFirst- 8x5x2" Crosstac- 6" Triad Red Tac- 6x4" Triad Wedgie- 6x3.5" Dimensions of bags posted above: Armageddon 7x6x1.25" Midway- 7.5x5.5x2" Wiebad Barricade- 7x3.5x1.25" Not pictured, but I think I've seen it used: Tab Gear- 5.5x7x2" So, is it safe to assume that the bags that I posted are allowed? When I think of formed "V" style bags, I think of what would be common in F class or benchrest style shooting. Rigid, formed bags that cradle the rifle without any pressure or manipulation by the non firing hand, which isn't what I would classify the bags that I inquired about as. But, as I stated in my IM, it's your thread and challenge, so you establish the rules. I'm just looking for clarity. |
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Use this bag. Wiebad Barricade- 7x3.5x1.25"
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Made an attempt today with my Savage 110 that I picked up used on the cheap. 257 Roberts Ackley Improved. Who knows who's barrel it is. The Weaver K10 scope came with it.
Ideal 257312 cast bullet. GC and PC'd. 15.2gr 2400. It wants to do it, but I need to weed out the fliers. Top left is just over 1" and center one is about 7/8". I may cherry pick some bullets and make another pass at it. Otherwise, we'll switch over to some Sierra's or Speer TNTs and just get it done. Attached File Attached File Has anyone made it with cast bullets before? |
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Can you explain why? Not just for me, but to help others out.
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Originally Posted By akethan:
I'm not dragging this on with you any further . Hundreds of shooters have managed to work with it. Shoot with the approved bags or don't. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 30Caliber:
Made an attempt today with my Savage 110 that I picked up used on the cheap. 257 Roberts Ackley Improved. Who knows who's barrel it is. The Weaver K10 scope came with it. Ideal 257312 cast bullet. GC and PC'd. 15.2gr 2400. It wants to do it, but I need to weed out the fliers. Top left is just over 1" and center one is about 7/8". I may cherry pick some bullets and make another pass at it. Otherwise, we'll switch over to some Sierra's or Speer TNTs and just get it done. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/88780/IMG_0279-289982.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/88780/IMG_0278-289983.JPG Has anyone made it with cast bullets before? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
Don't think so. Make a formal entry in the other thread. View Quote Ran outta good bullets, so I spent the morning casting. That mold only has one hole, so it's slow going, but I drop 2 then pour a 9mm double mold to keep busy. I have enough now to make probably 3 more attempts at this point. This is my new quest. 2 attempts so far. Please put me on the call-out list. |
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Originally Posted By Plank_Spanker:
I have been following this thread for some time gathering the nerve to post anything worthy of some of the marksman we have on this site. Besides lacking precision shooting skills, I haven't had the equipment to even get close until now. I do have a question on the front rest I could use. Would this be allowed? https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10620666_10205422668152354_8863582370582857758_n.jpg?oh=1f0eeacd276f633bd1d02f1260b44906&oe=5A586644 When measuring, we are to measure out to out of the grease ring then deduct 1 bullet diameter, isn't that the same as out side to inside of the grease ring of the max spread? Is there a reason we are to measure this way? Just curious. I have a new stick that is showing some promise & we have a ARF member new to my AO at my place this weekend. I'm hoping to shoot this challenge with him. Here's the rifle. https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20292620_10214503917057901_13431044094378746_n.jpg?oh=df9aeff0333d87f5c380d828e9796323&oe=5A2A57D6 Here's the early results. https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20914222_10214772667696499_7364973474494686705_n.jpg?oh=89943779c98dd27c1ef0a96796797499&oe=5A268586 View Quote Measure from the outside edges of the two furthest grease rings and deduct the bullet. Your above measurement is only picking up half the bullet diameter. You may also want to try On Target |
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Originally Posted By akethan:
The front rest is fine. The rear rest is not. Measure from the outside edges of the two furthest grease rings and deduct the bullet. Your above measurement is only picking up half the bullet diameter. You may also want to try On Target View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Olympic_Cerakote:
Are your Grendel barrels shipping yet? Might be perfect for an upcoming build coming up next week. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Olympic_Cerakote:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
18" 6.5 Grendel with some custom McCourt 120 Bergers ... I see 1 MOA possibilities http://www.larue.com/media/img/image7.jpg |
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The GAHTF is going to have another MOA competition soon. Hopefully that will bring some more posts your way.
Don't worry superjlarge.... there will be some legal rear bags you can borrow. Or at least some old socks and bag of beans ;) |
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Originally Posted By GAhunter95:
The GAHTF is going to have another MOA competition soon. Hopefully that will bring some more posts your way. Don't worry superjlarge.... there will be some legal rear bags you can borrow. Or at least some old socks and bag of beans ;) View Quote |
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These are the two types of rear bags I use most often. Are they OK? Both require pressure to support the gun.
https://www.milehighshooting.com/tab-gear-str8-str8-laced-bag/ or https://www.amazon.com/Wiebad-LLC-Mini-Range-Cube/dp/B017MGNDW6 |
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
So where are all these 1/2 MOA Tikkas? Not trying to call them out, but I keep hearing about how amazing accuracy is out of them, but no recent takers. I bought a T3x Stainless Lite and it shoots 1.25-1.50 MOA 3 shot groups. Acceptable for hunting but nothing special. Obviously the CTR should be more accurate, but I'm just looking for groups. I've had people tell me their CTR shoots sub .1 MOA but obviously could not back that up. Honestly if I knew my rifle shot the way it does before buying (purchased new), I would have bought a Remington receiver and built something off a Remage for close to the same price. View Quote A Tikka with a ~$300 scope did a 0.525 MOA. His best group was 0.331" iirc |
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Originally Posted By akethan:
Originally Posted By JmacAr:
Consider this my placeholder, but I have a question regarding the rear bag... This is the only bag that I have and I don't remember who made it so I can't give you the website URL. **Edit** Just checked the link earlier in this thread, 100% sure it's this bag: http://www.triadtactical.com/Red-Tac-Gear-Rear-Bag.html Just want to know if the results will be official or un-official Picture next to my shoe to give a size reference. http://i60.tinypic.com/2yy9grb.jpg View Quote View Quote I can nearly guarantee that the a2 style stock in the pic is larger than the shoe in the other pic. Using that for scale...How in God's name can one bag be approved and one not be approved because it's too large? Also, I can't imagine why a monopod being used with the hinge engaged and a balled up fist grasping it for support can't be used in the SPR class. That is exerting MORE human control over the rifle than using one of the randomly "approved" bags..... And one front rest is fine but if you put a towel over it it is not? This is bizzare |
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Originally Posted By akethan:
A folded up monopod and your fist or a small bag would be fine as long as that is the way you really shoot it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By akethan:
A folded up monopod and your fist or a small bag would be fine as long as that is the way you really shoot it. Originally Posted By akethan:
Monopods are not approved even if it supported by your hand. |
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If y'all can, update your older (<June '17) entries with Imgur or Arfcom hosting.
I redid my Service entry on page 9, spring '15. I think I need to redo my Bolt entry from a few months later. |
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
So where are all these 1/2 MOA Tikkas? Not trying to call them out, but I keep hearing about how amazing accuracy is out of them, but no recent takers. I bought a T3x Stainless Lite and it shoots 1.25-1.50 MOA 3 shot groups. Acceptable for hunting but nothing special. Obviously the CTR should be more accurate, but I'm just looking for groups. I've had people tell me their CTR shoots sub .1 MOA but obviously could not back that up. Honestly if I knew my rifle shot the way it does before buying (purchased new), I would have bought a Remington receiver and built something off a Remage for close to the same price. View Quote .5 inch squares for reference |
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"Originally Posted By jpgolffl:
Well I was hoping for something averaging .7 and beat it! Shot with mono pod hinge disengaged. <snip> [/url] upload pics direct link SPR- JPgolffl, Home built mega MKM, Larue stealth 18 inch, Leupold MK4 3.5–10, tactical yoga mat. 0.58 MOA" Very consistent. |
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Yep, very consistent POI. I bet that 25 round aggregate is still under MOA.
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
"Originally Posted By jpgolffl: Well I was hoping for something averaging .7 and beat it! Shot with mono pod hinge disengaged. <snip> https://preview.ibb.co/mJjcf6/IMG_5466.jpg[/url] upload pics direct link SPR- JPgolffl, Home built mega MKM, Larue stealth 18 inch, Leupold MK4 3.5–10, tactical yoga mat. 0.58 MOA" Very consistent. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By jpgolffl: Thank you sir. I actually went back and scored it manually and got 0.55 MOA. I seriously can't imagine why anyone would spend $500 on a super high end barrel. This thing was $225 and this target was shot with roughly 200 rounds since the last cleaning. Excellent barrel my friend. View Quote I'm tickled to see there are a handful of LaRue barrels on the latest, last page of the 1 MOA thread. * |
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Originally Posted By Euronymous:
[URL=http://s302.photobucket.com/user/Euronymous_666/media/20170816_164824_zpszowc51qr.jpg.html] http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn85/Euronymous_666/th_20170816_164824_zpszowc51qr.jpg[/URL does that count? Savage b17 3 shots at 50yd..lol Wish my obr shot that well? View Quote Your OBR can and will shoot that well ... bring it to me and I'll show you. |
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Originally Posted By jpgolffl: Yea man. Something I had to learn is that the difference between shooting 1/2 MOA and 1.3 MOA with a gas gun is literally millimeters of tension and position in your muscles. It''s such a delicate balance of controlling the rifle but not muscling the rifle that it can drive you nuts. Shot this one at 400 yards today. I'm nothing close to an experienced longish range shooter but this was close to being an amazing 400 yard group. Squares are 1" and I remember readjusting after 2 shots which sent the other three left. Ridiculous consistency though and still well under MOA. Shot a 5 round group of .8 at 200 as well. https://preview.ibb.co/myBj5G/IMG_5490.jpg View Quote Good shooting. |
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Originally Posted By jpgolffl:
Yea man. Something I had to learn is that the difference between shooting 1/2 MOA and 1.3 MOA with a gas gun is literally millimeters of tension and position in your muscles. It''s such a delicate balance of controlling the rifle but not muscling the rifle that it can drive you nuts. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By assaultdog0351:
Can we shoot this at 2 or 300yd? Shot one in low light with my headlights on the target and the reticle illuminated. Groups opened up a tad, but the biggest issue I had was eye fatigue. I had an incredibly hard time getting my to focus on the reticle and it was burning me out. Didn't beat my previous groups so not worth posting up anywhere but here. https://i.imgur.com/NXmaxL2.jpg https://i.imgur.com/b1WnVEZ.jpg View Quote Try bigger targets. Aim Small-Miss Small can only go so far. |
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@Gunslinger808
The point of 5, 5-shot groups is to prove that you and your rifle are capable of One MOA... "All Day". Is that an older 700? |
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Yeah, I can understand what it’s about, just seems like a lot to me just for bragging rights.
And yes, it’s an old 700 PSS I picked up about 25 years ago, been a good shooter, but since I switched over to 6.5X284 it hasn’t seen any use, yesterday was the first time I’ve fired it in at least 2 years. If it’s permitted, once the holidays are over, I’ll shoot the course of fire with the pellet rifle I practice with to keep in shape, it’s amazingly accurate. |
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It's not just bragging rights. People make purchases off of discussions and claims off forums. So real money is on the line. Many people may gets disappointed when they hear amazing accuracy reports about a rifle, only to discover that claimed "accuracy" consisted of cherry picked groups.
There was a brief time on SH where one was even allowed to post a picture of a single group, but had to shoot a 6x5 to prove accuracy. |
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