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Posted: 4/14/2017 10:02:52 AM EDT
As a reloader with access to lots of .308 Winchester brass, I'm wondering why it is not more popular than the 6.5 Creedmore.  Same projectiles but the .260 can be made simply by running .308 brass through a good set of .260 dies.  No need for complex formation like with a 6.5 Creedmore.

Just wondering.
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 10:08:52 AM EDT
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Or you could just, you know, buy brass.
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 10:12:31 AM EDT
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260 was basically killed by remington, they never correctly supported it.  

As stated you can also by great brass for 6.5.  

Necking down from 308 often requires neck turning too for a match chamber.  

For factory ammo and reloading there really are no reasons to choose 260 over Creedmoor.

It isn't a bad round it has just been far eclipsed in support.
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 10:25:55 AM EDT
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Why does remington seem to develop stuff that they know is going to die on the vine.....


6mm remington vs 243 Win....

All the Short mags vs the Win short magnums...

260 vs CM......


Seems they are the Republicans of the ammo industry...content to be in second place.  That being said, is the 260 dead? I heard the military has used it on a limited basis.
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 10:27:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/14/2017 10:31:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
Why does remington seem to develop stuff that they know is going to die on the vine.....


6mm remington vs 243 Win....

All the Short mags vs the Win short magnums...

260 vs CM......


Seems they are the Republicans of the ammo industry...content to be in second place.  That being said, is the 260 dead? I heard the military has used it on a limited basis.
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its not dead, it actually has more support than ever, but it isn't really growing.  Hornady just added a factory load, but that isn't a game changer.  They have tons more Creedmoor options.
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 11:09:58 AM EDT
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260 is gaining in numbers but losing market share.
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 11:13:26 AM EDT
[#7]
Black Hills had a great load with a
Lapua bullet.  I bought a case and have been using it for
Brass.

It was a special run available back when I built my fn .260s.  GAP carried it exclusively then.
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 11:15:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
260 is gaining in numbers but losing market share.
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Like 6mm Rem.....
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 12:33:37 PM EDT
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I love mine. (Savage LRP)

RE: brass

I've had good luck just up sizing .243 brass using a full length sizing die without any other brass mangling.  
Loads have been as good or better than using RP or Norma brass, SSA brass has been best.  
Haven't bought any new Lapua brass, I have some Hornady to try.

RE: Ammo availablility.

Prime works good for me.
FGGM 142g has been showing up recently, shoots as good as the Prime through my rifle and is a bit less expensive.
Hornady Black.  Reasonably pricesd, ok results so far, still evaluating.

Others have already mentioned some of the pricier stuff.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 10:30:22 PM EDT
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260 is a great round and I've had 2 barrels chambered in it.

2 negatives:

It's a round best for those who reload.

When reloading the long heavy high BC bullets a long action is better suited with a 260 R.E.M. If loading to a short action magazine length the bullet is deep into the case which is not optimal and takes up case capacity.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:15:17 PM EDT
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I recently got a Tikka t3x ctr in 260 and I'm loving it so far, it's fairly easy to load for. My main reason for picking 260 instead of 6.5c was because I'm getting a Larue PredatOBR in 260 and I want to consolidate calibers I reload for.

The only problem I see thus far is that if I keep the TRG mags that come with the Tikka I'll have two different coal's for the different guns. I can load to about 2.91 in the Tikka mag and I know the Larue won't take rounds that long.

The only thing I dislike is that H4350 is near impossible to find lately. I have a bit on hand but not quite enough for the amount I've been shooting lately.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 1:48:54 PM EDT
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"The only thing I dislike is that H4350 is near impossible to find lately."

I've found good loads with IMR 4451 and 4350.

The 4451 gives up a little velocity, the 4350 gains some depending on the bullet.  For my purposes anything > 2750fps is fine, and the results have been good loads in the 2800-3000 range.

The temp stability of the 4451 is as good as the H4350, the IMR 4350 gives up a little but it is still better than many other alternatives.

Not sure what considerations go into your preference for H4350.  My observations FWIW.  I only load 123 gr Lapua scenar, more popular heavier bullets may be different with those powders.  These get me out to 1000 and I don't have much opportunity to shoot further than that.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 6:58:20 PM EDT
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I get better velocity with h4350 and Berger 140 hybrids. I picked some up from Powder Valley today that should last me 2-3 months.
Link Posted: 4/26/2017 10:43:28 AM EDT
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.260 gets no love compared to 6.5 Creedmoor is simply based on factory ammo offerings. From the outset, 6.5 Creedmoor was backed by match grade ammo offerings from Hornady that were produced in quantity and available everywhere.

.260 ammo was pretty much all hunting ammo. Anything considered match / target grade was made in lower quantities and not readily available.

Most people don't reload, thus 6.5 Creedmoor did what the .260 Remington couldn't in the marketplace.

As far as .264" bullets, .260 Remington and 6.5x47 were already around before 6.5 Creedmoor and are still excellent cartridges. But by getting a big manufacturer like Hornady behind the cartridge, Creedmoor Sports made a winner.
Link Posted: 4/26/2017 11:22:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ocabj:
.260 gets no love compared to 6.5 Creedmoor is simply based on factory ammo offerings. From the outset, 6.5 Creedmoor was backed by match grade ammo offerings from Hornady that were produced in quantity and available everywhere.

.260 ammo was pretty much all hunting ammo. Anything considered match / target grade was made in lower quantities and not readily available.

Most people don't reload, thus 6.5 Creedmoor did what the .260 Remington couldn't in the marketplace.

As far as .264" bullets, .260 Remington and 6.5x47 were already around before 6.5 Creedmoor and are still excellent cartridges. But by getting a big manufacturer like Hornady behind the cartridge, Creedmoor Sports made a winner.
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This. 6.5x47 or 260 could've easily been the winners of the mid range .264 race, but neither had the big name support in factory rifles or ammo.

Ruger choosing to chamber the RPR and American in Creedmoor was like porn choosing Blue Ray over HD DVD. When two or more products do essentially the same thing, popularity will eventually win the day.

The only reason to choose x47 or 260 anymore is just to be different (or have a shit ton of quality 308 brass you want to neck down and turn, in the case of the 260). Still 260 had the disadvantage of being tougher to load mag length than the CM or x47.
Link Posted: 4/26/2017 11:30:15 AM EDT
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Love 260. Rebarreled on a Savage 110 action. Can load them as long as I like. Kick ass precision rifle.
Link Posted: 5/29/2017 7:41:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
Why does remington seem to develop stuff that they know is going to die on the vine.....


6mm remington vs 243 Win....

All the Short mags vs the Win short magnums...

260 vs CM......


Seems they are the Republicans of the ammo industry...content to be in second place.  That being said, is the 260 dead? I heard the military has used it on a limited basis.
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So true...Same thing with my favorite hunting round - .280 Remington.  '06 case with ballistically superior 7mm bullet.  Shoulder moved forward .050" to prevent accidental chambering in the .270 Win, which it beats accross the board.  Handloaded it gets to about 100 fps of the 7mm Rem Mag with less powder and recoil.  Far superior to 7mm-08.

I handload 6mm Rem and .280.  Very fine cartridges that sadly fell victim to Remington's poor marketing.
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