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Posted: 11/8/2014 10:54:28 PM EDT
Just wondering what rear bag recommendations I can get for my precision rifle?
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Bill Maher is a cunt inside a douche bag wrapped in an enema. Originally posted by waterglass
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Old sock full of rice or bb's
I also have a triad tactical wedge. Both have their place and uses The sock. You can't beat it and it works. If you tear it or lose it, who cares? Take five minutes and make a new one. |
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Originally Posted By 50-140:
I jean or carhart pant leg filled with poly pellets and sewn shut. Cheaper than anything you can buy and will work just as well. http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x167/50-140/DSC00535.jpg View Quote |
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I've tried a few and ended up with the Rifles Only FTW. It's stable and filled so it's pretty stiff so once I get it adjusted it stays put. I think the pant leg would be very similar.
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I have several and frankly, the best bag for you depends entirely on what you're doing and what type of stock you have.
without getting into brands, i'll say a few things that should be obvious, some maybe not so much - for bench use, heavier is better. i prefer hobby sand you get from places like hobby lobby, sewn into a bag made from spandex. - for field use, lighter is better i prefer the poly micro beads in a heavy duty cordura bag of a rectangular shape - for chassis with narrow butts (whiskey3, rock solid, XLR, etc), a full bag is better as it is stiffer and will support the stock - for traditional stocks with wider flat bottoms designed to run on bags, 50%-75% fill is better as it gives you a wider range of movement - for benchrest where you want the gun to slide, a material that is slippery or that you can apply talc to is best - for practical/field use, friction is less important, but you wnat something that won't get destroyed by water/mud/etc and you want a strap in both directions if i get time later, i will try to take some pics and provide a post about how to use the straps and why rectangular, etc |
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I own several as well.
My #1 bag is an Accuracy First bag which I bought from Larue. Second would be a smaller caldwell, then various others that rarely get pulled out now. Fact of the matter is, different bags will work for different situations. If you wanna save money, just make one or two. They'll do the same thing! |
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Originally Posted By taliv:
I have several and frankly, the best bag for you depends entirely on what you're doing and what type of stock you have. without getting into brands, i'll say a few things that should be obvious, some maybe not so much - for bench use, heavier is better. i prefer hobby sand you get from places like hobby lobby, sewn into a bag made from spandex. - for field use, lighter is better i prefer the poly micro beads in a heavy duty cordura bag of a rectangular shape - for chassis with narrow butts (whiskey3, rock solid, XLR, etc), a full bag is better as it is stiffer and will support the stock - for traditional stocks with wider flat bottoms designed to run on bags, 50%-75% fill is better as it gives you a wider range of movement - for benchrest where you want the gun to slide, a material that is slippery or that you can apply talc to is best - for practical/field use, friction is less important, but you wnat something that won't get destroyed by water/mud/etc and you want a strap in both directions View Quote Pretty good advice, but I'd preface it with: Just get something you like. There could be a light weight bag that seems great according to your list, but doesn't crush enough in my hand so I won't use it. Personally.... I think in a bag you should have - Light-ish - Waterproof - Only as large as needed - Adjustable fill But I pick my gear for field use. I really like this one from CrossTac http://www.crosstac.com/shop-all-products/tactical-rear-squeeze-bag-pre-filled/ it fills all requirements for me. Mostly it's small, cheap, and well built. I used some big ass bags for classes and hated them. |
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cheep, look at midway....
i made made my self, some with polyfil, other with feed corn... they all work..
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Originally Posted By captrichardson:
Per the responses above, make sure that you have a bag that works for you. APPLICATION! Given that I shoot about every form of Precision Long Range application, per above I have rear bags that work the best for any given application. Smaller, Lighter, More Adaptable for the Practical/Tactical stuff. Larger, Heavier, Dedicated for the Bench/Prone stuff. DESIGN! Make sure that the bag design works well with your stock design. A flat/parallel bottom stock is going to interface with a bag differently than an angled bottom stock. If you work through the process, you should be able to figure out what will be your best bet. Best of Luck, M Richardson View Quote Your the only other person I've seen with the Badger Bone. It's more useful as a padded bag off of sticks or a ledge, but it's usefull nonetheless. |
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Originally Posted By Multi-G:
Your the only other person I've seen with the Badger Bone. It's more useful as a padded bag off of sticks or a ledge, but it's usefull nonetheless. View Quote My partner in a precision class had some. Needed two to make them work as a rear bag. I didn't really get it. |
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Originally Posted By Multi-G:
I have several but the wedge and what's now the Red Tach small pillow get the most use. Triad View Quote I, admittedly, haven't used a lot of different bags but I'm really liking the Triad wedge as well. |
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A little off subject, but are there different sizes of poly fill and if so, what size are you using for your bags?
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i started a new thread with some more pics and explanation
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_16_6/700_.html&page=1 |
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This is what I've been using lately under $10 and works great.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/745362/midwayusa-tactical-rear-shooting-rest-bag-nylon-olive-drab-square?cm_vc=ProductFinding |
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Just swung by the military surplus store today. Purchased a ACU zippered bag for $2.99. It came with straps but would also sew a para chord loop. My poly pellet beads should on their way from Walmart online. I just might dye the bag first Dark Green.
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I use a TAB rear bag and it works well for me. I would have sewn my own, but don't own a sewing machine, and don't have the time to sit there and stitch it by hand, so the $20 price on the bag was ok with me.
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Originally Posted By tx1021:
I, admittedly, haven't used a lot of different bags but I'm really liking the Triad wedge as well. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/Tx1021/477235d0-78af-4b17-a213-03e127743125_zps5ae3732f.jpg?t=1416358790 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tx1021:
Originally Posted By Multi-G:
I have several but the wedge and what's now the Red Tach small pillow get the most use. Triad I, admittedly, haven't used a lot of different bags but I'm really liking the Triad wedge as well. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/Tx1021/477235d0-78af-4b17-a213-03e127743125_zps5ae3732f.jpg?t=1416358790 I use the wedge in a different orientation. I place the wide end towards the front of the stock and the tapered end towards the rear so the incline of the wedge matches the incline of the bottom of the stock. I find the stock is more fully supported that way. Pulling the bag to the rear will drop the muzzle, and pushing it to the front will raise the muzzle. |
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Cal has the bag data up from the PRS on the Precision Rifle Blog:
http://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/12/30/best-shooting-bags/ Very good review of what is out there, and some of the way that they are being used. Best of Luck, M Richardson |
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I use a Str8 Laced rear bag myself.
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Think I am going to go the route of making a bunch, my wife is good a sewing so I will have her make me a few!
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I make my own, they are in the shape of a cylinder. I have played around with the fill and have settled on airsoft BB's. The poly fill was great but it took quite a bit to fill the bags.
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I get a big zip lock, fill it with rice and put it inside a Crown Royal bag. It's ghetto but it works. Country boy can survive and all that.
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I just use an old boot sock filled with rice. Works fine for me. Cheap too. The boot sock is basically free if you've worn it out or lost the other sock in the pair, the rice is like $1 a bag. I'm too cheap to spend $20+ on a bag.
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Just picked this up, anyone use it before? American Mountain Supply
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Originally Posted By SilkyJohnson:
I like my triad tapered bag. https://www.triadtactical.com/Triad-Tapered-Rear-Bag.html View Quote I picked one up based off your post and really do like it for bench and prone. |
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Originally Posted By Lexington: I use the wedge in a different orientation. I place the wide end towards the front of the stock and the tapered end towards the rear so the incline of the wedge matches the incline of the bottom of the stock. I find the stock is more fully supported that way. Pulling the bag to the rear will drop the muzzle, and pushing it to the front will raise the muzzle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lexington: Originally Posted By tx1021: Originally Posted By Multi-G: I have several but the wedge and what's now the Red Tach small pillow get the most use. Triad I, admittedly, haven't used a lot of different bags but I'm really liking the Triad wedge as well. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/Tx1021/477235d0-78af-4b17-a213-03e127743125_zps5ae3732f.jpg?t=1416358790 I use the wedge in a different orientation. I place the wide end towards the front of the stock and the tapered end towards the rear so the incline of the wedge matches the incline of the bottom of the stock. I find the stock is more fully supported that way. Pulling the bag to the rear will drop the muzzle, and pushing it to the front will raise the muzzle. |
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View Quote I also just grabbed a Multicam one. Interested to test it against my FTW bag. Seems like a good bag in dry fire runs |
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Originally Posted By Rob01:
I make my own with poly pellets/doll fill found at local arts and crafts stores or the internet. They are lighter than sand or fish tank small rocks and unlike rice or beans the poly pellets won't get mushy when wet or attract pests. I pour them into a sock then fold over and sew it. You don't want to over fill it as you want room to be able to squeeze to adjust elevation or settle into a position. Then I put that sock into another and do the same and then shoe goo over the threads to protect. Cheap and easy to make. One thing I started doing a few years back is to sew on a piece of 550 cord so I can loop it over the stock and hook it on my stock pack so it stays with the rifle if I need to move alot in a stage of fire. Below are some pics. <a href="http://s23.photobucket.com/user/Rob01/media/P1010475.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b385/Rob01/P1010475.jpg</a> You don't have to be a master seamstress to do this. Just basic sewing to hold it together. <a href="http://s23.photobucket.com/user/Rob01/media/P1010476.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b385/Rob01/P1010476.jpg</a> You can see the bag hanging off my rifle after the stage of fire <a href="http://s23.photobucket.com/user/Rob01/media/5759352674_ab2e3be2c0_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b385/Rob01/5759352674_ab2e3be2c0_o.jpg</a> View Quote I like this idea a lot. I may try this tonight. |
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A guy on fb is making them custom to order. He goes by sarge's shooting bags. I gave him the size I wanted and the clothe pattern. I just ordered a barricade pad from him.
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Pony beads in panty hose. Fill to size in a foot, twist 3 or 4 turns, fold back over, repeat about 10 times before tying a knot. It weighs next to nothing, does not soak up water. It can shake dry in a few seconds.
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I love my wilderness bag. I have two of them and can't beat the quality.
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I use a heavy sock filled with airsoft BB's
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I use old socks filled with vase beads that you can find at craft stores. Two bags of vase beads for my large sand socks, one bag for smaller ones. If you use GI socks, fill it up, tie it up as tight as possible, then double the excess sock back over the bag. The small vase beads I use are about the size of rice.
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For field use I just use a sock. For bench use I use a pair of bags that I made myself, it's not that tough and I just added the features that I find useful i.e. strap and tie-down anchors.
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