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Posted: 11/22/2011 11:21:25 PM

THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT
I got bit by the FOB bug. These things are great in a cross wind, and they stabilize the arrow very quickly. They pop off when you hit a deer, marking the spot to start your search for a blood trail, plus since it pops off, it makes it easier for the arrow to pass through (no friction from the vanes).

Shamelessly stolen from their web site (I don't think they'll mind me promoting them this way):



The results of this technology looks like this at 30yds:
(keep in mind I just started shooting in late June and this group was in August with not much practice during the 51 days of 110+ degree weather in between):
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Posted: 11/22/2011 11:29:39 PM
pics of arrow rest?

i cant even fathom how that would work?

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Posted: 11/22/2011 11:33:50 PM
That is a nice group...and I do see you achieved that in relatively short order, but I have to say I have seen many a newbie bow shooter achieve similar results with modern bow equipment. Unless these results are with a recurve really nothing to ground breaking. Again nice group.
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Posted: 11/23/2011 2:13:53 AM

Originally Posted By LukeDuke:
pics of arrow rest?

i cant even fathom how that would work?

A drop away rest is required. No Whisker Bisket for these things.
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Posted: 11/23/2011 2:21:56 AM

Originally Posted By sakotrg24:
That is a nice group...and I do see you achieved that in relatively short order, but I have to say I have seen many a newbie bow shooter achieve similar results with modern bow equipment. Unless these results are with a recurve really nothing to ground breaking. Again nice group.

I guess I forgot to mention that this group was shot in a stiff cross wind. I'm in KS where the wind never stops blowing. I'm not good enough to do this with regular fletching after having only shot the bow 5 or 6 times (and having not shot for over 20 years). My friend who shoots more than I do wasn't able to group them like this. The wind was visibly affecting his arrows in a way it wasn't affecting mine.
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Posted: 11/23/2011 3:01:34 PM
I've been meaning to give these a try, so my order has been placed.
Once they come in, I can compare them and it gives me a chance to also play with some trimming options.
Looking forward to seeing the results.
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Posted: 11/23/2011 8:08:50 PM

Originally Posted By EdwardAvila:
I've been meaning to give these a try, so my order has been placed.
Once they come in, I can compare them and it gives me a chance to also play with some trimming options.
Looking forward to seeing the results.

With these FOBs, I can get my SilverFlame 125XL brodheads with a 1.5" dia. to hit 1.5" high at 30yds ... without broadhead tuning. I ran out of time before season opener to broadhead tune, but I figured that was close enough since I'm limiting myself to 30yds max this first year. They do a good job of stabilizing the arrow quickly since they don't flex & flap like vanes. I busted 3 FOBs checking for groups with my broadheads before I figured out that I need to shoot spots. I have a fairly high F.O.C. of 16% with my Harvest Time Archery HT-2 arrows cut to 28" carbon-to-carbon, the FOBs, arrow wraps, 125gr broadhead, and 50gr of screw-in weight behind the insert: total arrow weight of 470gr.
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Posted: 11/23/2011 8:17:14 PM
I LOVE FOBS.

Been using them for years. For 3D, I suggest either black fobs, switching to vanes, or shooting last. They make great targets for other shooters.
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Posted: 11/23/2011 10:07:13 PM

Originally Posted By IIRC:
I LOVE FOBS.

Been using them for years. For 3D, I suggest either black fobs, switching to vanes, or shooting last. They make great targets for other shooters.

Official IBO or ATA or NFAA tournaments don't allow FOBs, so unless local shoots allow it, it will have to be vanes. I am actually planning on getting some Harvest Time Archery HT-3 Virtue or HT-4 Redemption arrows for 3D next spring. My HT-2 Harvester arrows for bowhunting have 0.6gr variation among the dozen –– and that's with nocks and inserts, and screw-in-weights installed!

I was impressed enough with their Harvester arrows that I joined their advisory shooting staff.
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Posted: 11/24/2011 7:08:10 AM
Originally Posted By loonybin:

Originally Posted By IIRC:
I LOVE FOBS.

Been using them for years. For 3D, I suggest either black fobs, switching to vanes, or shooting last. They make great targets for other shooters.

Official IBO or ATA or NFAA tournaments don't allow FOBs, so unless local shoots allow it, it will have to be vanes. I am actually planning on getting some Harvest Time Archery HT-3 Virtue or HT-4 Redemption arrows for 3D next spring. My HT-2 Harvester arrows for bowhunting have 0.6gr variation among the dozen –– and that's with nocks and inserts, and screw-in-weights installed!

I was impressed enough with their Harvester arrows that I joined their advisory shooting staff.


Some of our local shoots allow them in the open class.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:24:29 AM
Originally Posted By IIRC:
I LOVE FOBS.

Been using them for years. For 3D, I suggest either black fobs, switching to vanes, or shooting last. They make great targets for other shooters.


I just found the new forum.

Do you use FOBs for hunting?

I have been thinking of switching to FOBs. Do I just cut off the vanes with a blade?
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Posted: 1/28/2012 4:24:30 PM
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By IIRC:
I LOVE FOBS.

Been using them for years. For 3D, I suggest either black fobs, switching to vanes, or shooting last. They make great targets for other shooters.


I just found the new forum.

Do you use FOBs for hunting?

I have been thinking of switching to FOBs. Do I just cut off the vanes with a blade?


I only hunt with FOBs now, actually. I like how they handle in windy conditions over vanes in both of my hunting bows.

You can just remove the vanes from an old arrow and scrape the remaining glue off.

One thing I will say is try to use a couple before you set your heart in them. For some reason, my buddy and I can't get them to shoot desirably out of his hunting rig compared to vanes.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:38:36 PM
Originally Posted By IIRC:
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By IIRC:
I LOVE FOBS.

Been using them for years. For 3D, I suggest either black fobs, switching to vanes, or shooting last. They make great targets for other shooters.


I just found the new forum.

Do you use FOBs for hunting?

I have been thinking of switching to FOBs. Do I just cut off the vanes with a blade?


I only hunt with FOBs now, actually. I like how they handle in windy conditions over vanes in both of my hunting bows.

You can just remove the vanes from an old arrow and scrape the remaining glue off.

One thing I will say is try to use a couple before you set your heart in them. For some reason, my buddy and I can't get them to shoot desirably out of his hunting rig compared to vanes.


I will do that. Thanks for the warning.
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