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Posted: 6/24/2012 7:18:00 PM

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I currently carry an XD45 compact for CCW and for matches I use an XD45 service. The XD45 is very accurate but the recoil compared to someone’s 9mm I shot at the last match I went to really hinders my follow up shots. Also I'm not sure if the .45 would put me in heavy metal or not once I go to more formal matches. I’m looking to move down to a 9mm or 40 for matches and I'm looking at the XDm 5.25 Competition and the M&P9 either the Vtac model or the 5" barrel model. I know about the trigger sucking for the M&P so I'll be getting a new trigger. I've never actually shot the M&P but when I held it at the store it felt pretty great in my hand.

So how do these compare for competition? I'm looking at reliability, accuracy, and recoil management/ the ability to fire quick follow up shots. Also what caliber would be better and why? I have a .40 and I've shot 9mm but most of my experience and range time for pistols is with .45ACP.
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Posted: 6/26/2012 3:32:04 PM
Using the XD45 would not put you in Heavy Metal, but you could use it in that division (10 round limit) if you chose to. For the minor divisions (5.56 etc..), the most popular caliber is 9mm. I believe that this is partly due to capacity, and the steel will (or should) be calibrated to this. You can use the XD45 in this division, you would just be limited to round count (as compared to 9mm), and have more recoil.

The first few matches I would just run your current XD unless you are itching to get another pistol. :D I have thought about moving from Heavy Metal back to Limited even though I would only have 10 rounds in my 1911. At least until I get my CZ back..

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Posted: 6/26/2012 6:38:34 PM
I am actually itching to get another pistol lol Im just stuck between those and also the FNS. I did notice on the last match when I used someones 9mm that the steel took a few shots to actually go down. But I really liked the fast follow up shots a lot. How do those three stack up against each other? Is there a round limit for .45 in minor?
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Posted: 6/27/2012 8:26:56 PM
Most popular 3 gun pistol are 9mm's and are...

2011 Style STI or SVI

Glock 34

M&P 9 Pro

XDM, CZ, and everything else
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Posted: 6/27/2012 11:17:36 PM
Originally Posted By PFC_Dustin:
I am actually itching to get another pistol lol Im just stuck between those and also the FNS. I did notice on the last match when I used someones 9mm that the steel took a few shots to actually go down. But I really liked the fast follow up shots a lot. How do those three stack up against each other? Is there a round limit for .45 in minor?


The steel is supposed to be calibrated to fall to a minor level 9mm load. If it was not falling you were either hitting really low or the RO did not have the steel calibrated properly.
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Posted: 6/28/2012 2:02:06 AM
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Originally Posted By PFC_Dustin:
I am actually itching to get another pistol lol Im just stuck between those and also the FNS. I did notice on the last match when I used someones 9mm that the steel took a few shots to actually go down. But I really liked the fast follow up shots a lot. How do those three stack up against each other? Is there a round limit for .45 in minor?


The steel is supposed to be calibrated to fall to a minor level 9mm load. If it was not falling you were either hitting really low or the RO did not have the steel calibrated properly.
Pat


The steel was angled a bit and I ended up knocking it down by angling myself and taking head shots. What point is too low on steel for 9mm?
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Posted: 6/28/2012 5:12:30 AM
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Originally Posted By PFC_Dustin:
Originally Posted By Glockfan:
Originally Posted By PFC_Dustin:
I am actually itching to get another pistol lol Im just stuck between those and also the FNS. I did notice on the last match when I used someones 9mm that the steel took a few shots to actually go down. But I really liked the fast follow up shots a lot. How do those three stack up against each other? Is there a round limit for .45 in minor?


The steel is supposed to be calibrated to fall to a minor level 9mm load. If it was not falling you were either hitting really low or the RO did not have the steel calibrated properly.
Pat


The steel was angled a bit and I ended up knocking it down by angling myself and taking head shots. What point is too low on steel for 9mm?


Hits below the calibration zone are not always going to knock the steel over. The calibration zone is the round part below the head on a standard popper. If you had to take head shots the steel was not calibrated correctly.
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Posted: 6/28/2012 11:45:43 AM
Sometimes steel sinks at the back end of the frame from repetitive falling over the course of a match. I always take a walk around the steel and see how it's set and ask for adjustments if something looks too heavy.
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Posted: 6/28/2012 12:07:03 PM
Thanks for all the info.

Anyone have any experience with both the XDm Competition and the M&P9 that could tell me there oppinions on them?
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Posted: 6/28/2012 12:42:03 PM
I had both. Didn't shoot a lot through either but the high bore axis on the XDM guns makes them flip a lot. I love the way they fit my hand though. if I bought another polymer gun it would be an MP pro 9mm with an apex trigger kit.
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Posted: 6/28/2012 4:05:36 PM
Originally Posted By JesseTischauser:
I had both. Didn't shoot a lot through either but the high bore axis on the XDM guns makes them flip a lot. I love the way they fit my hand though. if I bought another polymer gun it would be an MP pro 9mm with an apex trigger kit.


Thanks, I have noticed my XD45s flip a lot but I figured it was just the caliber. What was your opinion on the M&P? Have you had a chance to shoot the FNS-9?

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Posted: 6/28/2012 6:17:22 PM
M&P's are nice. The Apex trigger is sweet too. I have not shot the FNH but even if it was the best gun out right now there are no aftermarket parts yet so that means 17 round mags, stock sights, no magwell.
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Posted: 7/26/2012 11:11:16 PM
Are there any cases where the XDm 5.25 Competition model would not be legal?
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Posted: 7/27/2012 1:12:46 AM
XDM 9 5.25 should be legal everywhere.