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Posted: 6/2/2012 12:39:03 PM

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What drills would you recommend for someone who's looking to improve his rifle handling skills with a 22 upper?
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Posted: 6/2/2012 2:35:40 PM
honestly - if you use a .22 you will get plenty of chance for misfires, fail to eject, fail to load, and extracting stuck shells
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Posted: 6/2/2012 4:19:20 PM
Kyle Lamb's (Viking Tactics...VTAC) "Highsmith Rifle Drill"....be sure to apply the safety at each transition...
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Posted: 6/2/2012 9:15:23 PM
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Originally Posted By thatguy:
honestly - if you use a .22 you will get plenty of chance for misfires, fail to eject, fail to load, and extracting stuck shells


And knowing how to clear those will never help in a match.

You're not going to do much long work with a .22 for obvious reasons but dedicated uppers are great for up-close training. Transition drills, controlled pairs, getting on the sights and hitting a few controlled pair, etc. Get some cheap steel from TACCOM and beat the snot out of them.

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Posted: 6/3/2012 4:23:06 AM
Originally Posted By thatguy:
honestly - if you use a .22 you will get plenty of chance for misfires, fail to eject, fail to load, and extracting stuck shells


Sounds like you need to find some ammo your gun likes. I have fired over 4000 rounds in the last month through my Spikes Tactical .22 AR and have only had 3 malfunctions. I use CCI blazer.
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Posted: 6/4/2012 8:03:00 AM
Originally Posted By Glockfan:
Originally Posted By thatguy:
honestly - if you use a .22 you will get plenty of chance for misfires, fail to eject, fail to load, and extracting stuck shells


Sounds like you need to find some ammo your gun likes. I have fired over 4000 rounds in the last month through my Spikes Tactical .22 AR and have only had 3 malfunctions. I use CCI blazer.


Same here - my ST-22 runs like a top.

I'll be releasing a video soon that acutally addresses this question.
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Posted: 6/8/2012 3:08:38 PM
My Nordic upper runs flawless with blazer and mini mag ammo. If I try the cheapo AE or Winchester it will malfunction at least once or twice a mag.
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I am going to assume the OP is asking for manipulation and shooting drills not tap, rack, bang drills. .22's are to dainty for clearance drills. I use my Nordic Components NC22 upper to practice shooting on the move out to about 25 yards. Setup some barrels or cones and 3-5 targets and walk around the obstacles while staying low shooting while moving.

I do a lot of first shot drills from low ready, port arms, standing to prone, prone to standing, standing to sitting, standing to reverse kneeling, up/downs (2 shots standing, 2 shots kneeling, 2 shots seated, 2 shots prone then revers back up to standing), I also like to run drills Shootibg 4-5" steel at 50 yards from any weird position I can think of including hanging up side down.

I also work on getting into position around the edge of a wall or at a fault line. Run hard and slow down quick all while having the gun up on target ready to shoot the second you see the target around/behind the obstacle.

Also work on strong to weak side transitions along with some weak side traditional position shooting.



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Posted: 6/9/2012 9:10:00 PM
I do all my cqb drills with my Spikes ST-22. I only use my real three gun rifle for shooting past 100 yards in practice so I am not wearing my barrel out prematurely. I have done some simple drills comparing my 22 to my 5.56 up close and there is very little difference in the times so I feel its good training.
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Posted: 6/11/2012 2:38:51 PM
I do all the above and also transitioning from strong side to support side shooting.
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Posted: 6/11/2012 7:26:10 PM
Originally Posted By JesseTischauser:
I am going to assume the OP is asking for manipulation and shooting drills not tap, rack, bang drills. .22's are to dainty for clearance drills. I use my Nordic Components NC22 upper to practice shooting on the move out to about 25 yards. Setup some barrels or cones and 3-5 targets and walk around the obstacles while staying low shooting while moving.

I do a lot of first shot drills from low ready, port arms, standing to prone, prone to standing, standing to sitting, standing to reverse kneeling, up/downs (2 shots standing, 2 shots kneeling, 2 shots seated, 2 shots prone then revers back up to standing), I also like to run drills Shootibg 4-5" steel at 50 yards from any weird position I can think of including hanging up side down.

I also work on getting into position around the edge of a wall or at a fault line. Run hard and slow down quick all while having the gun up on target ready to shoot the second you see the target around/behind the obstacle.

Also work on strong to weak side transitions along with some weak side traditional position shooting. .


Thanks Jesse, this is EXACTLY what I was looking for.