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Posted: 8/5/2012 1:16:37 AM
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I'm new to hunting hog and cyotes. My experience is limited to road runner cartoons

I'll be on 40 acres of land which is mostly pasture land. I can shoot there at night or day. I have suppressors, 3rd gen NV and IR lasers to use on either 223 (AR15) or 308 cals (M1A/FAL).

A few questions about how would you hunt for hogs and cyotes:

Scents....if so, which one is best - cyote urine, gland lure, rabit urine?
Calls....what do you recommend - rabit call, cyote call, electric, mouth call?
Feed...what type - corn for pig and chicken for cyote?

Any other recommendations?

Thanks in advance


EDIT:::

Are these products good or needed
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Posted: 8/5/2012 11:14:51 AM
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You can just bait them with corn (if legal).

ETA: Coyotes are scavengers. They will eat anything. If you leave the hogs where you shoot em the coyotes will "return them to nature".
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Posted: 8/5/2012 1:31:55 PM
Originally Posted By JerzeyTransplant:
You can just bait them with corn (if legal).

ETA: Coyotes are scavengers. They will eat anything. If you leave the hogs where you shoot em the coyotes will "return them to nature".


ah...good point

corn for the hogs and hogs for the cyotes

makes sense
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Posted: 8/5/2012 3:24:14 PM
Originally Posted By JerzeyTransplant:
You can just bait them with corn (if legal).

ETA: Coyotes are scavengers. They will eat anything. If you leave the hogs where you shoot em the coyotes will "return them to nature".


that's my thoughts

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I enjoy hand/mouth calling for coyotes. I learned very young with a handcall and its one of my favorite hunts. Yes we dump the guts after cleaning deer or pigs and try to bring them in, but in my experience, they are very weary of a gut pile in the open and will only move onto it after dark. Buy yourself a handcall, rabbit in distress then watch some youtube videos and listen to recordings. I only stay in one spot for about 20-30 minutes and call about 6 times from a spot before I move to the next at least half a mile away. It is a rush to call em without any electronic stuff and have em come running in Also, I carry a light rifle AND a shotgun. When you call them they will stay out of sight until they feel safe to come in. when they do come in, it will be at the angle you didn't suspect and they are moving quick, hence the bead sighted shotgun
Good luck!

ETA: for hogs corn and/or a water source or water hole. Also look for areas that have been rooted up a ton, and find the ways in and out of that area that look like the "path of least resistance" to pigs. if there are grubs there or some roots they are after, they will keep coming back for them
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Posted: 8/5/2012 11:36:23 PM
Originally Posted By garretts1776:
I enjoy hand/mouth calling for coyotes. I learned very young with a handcall and its one of my favorite hunts. Yes we dump the guts after cleaning deer or pigs and try to bring them in, but in my experience, they are very weary of a gut pile in the open and will only move onto it after dark. Buy yourself a handcall, rabbit in distress then watch some youtube videos and listen to recordings. I only stay in one spot for about 20-30 minutes and call about 6 times from a spot before I move to the next at least half a mile away. It is a rush to call em without any electronic stuff and have em come running in Also, I carry a light rifle AND a shotgun. When you call them they will stay out of sight until they feel safe to come in. when they do come in, it will be at the angle you didn't suspect and they are moving quick, hence the bead sighted shotgun
Good luck!

ETA: for hogs corn and/or a water source or water hole. Also look for areas that have been rooted up a ton, and find the ways in and out of that area that look like the "path of least resistance" to pigs. if there are grubs there or some roots they are after, they will keep coming back for them



I have been listening to them on youtube...doesnt seem to hard
will have to give it a try

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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:01:04 AM
Originally Posted By JonJR:
Originally Posted By garretts1776:
I enjoy hand/mouth calling for coyotes. I learned very young with a handcall and its one of my favorite hunts. Yes we dump the guts after cleaning deer or pigs and try to bring them in, but in my experience, they are very weary of a gut pile in the open and will only move onto it after dark. Buy yourself a handcall, rabbit in distress then watch some youtube videos and listen to recordings. I only stay in one spot for about 20-30 minutes and call about 6 times from a spot before I move to the next at least half a mile away. It is a rush to call em without any electronic stuff and have em come running in Also, I carry a light rifle AND a shotgun. When you call them they will stay out of sight until they feel safe to come in. when they do come in, it will be at the angle you didn't suspect and they are moving quick, hence the bead sighted shotgun
Good luck!

ETA: for hogs corn and/or a water source or water hole. Also look for areas that have been rooted up a ton, and find the ways in and out of that area that look like the "path of least resistance" to pigs. if there are grubs there or some roots they are after, they will keep coming back for them



I have been listening to them on youtube...doesnt seem to hard
will have to give it a try



Don't expect to be able to use an open reed call right off the bat. They take time and practice to get just right, which you will have to do at home. You don't want to educate all the coyotes in your hunting areas your first time out!
Start with some closed reed calls at first as they are pretty much idiot proof (I should know), but purchase an open reed if you get serious. Practice makes perfect.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 7:28:33 AM
Originally Posted By thirstyswimmer:
Originally Posted By JonJR:
Originally Posted By garretts1776:
I enjoy hand/mouth calling for coyotes. I learned very young with a handcall and its one of my favorite hunts. Yes we dump the guts after cleaning deer or pigs and try to bring them in, but in my experience, they are very weary of a gut pile in the open and will only move onto it after dark. Buy yourself a handcall, rabbit in distress then watch some youtube videos and listen to recordings. I only stay in one spot for about 20-30 minutes and call about 6 times from a spot before I move to the next at least half a mile away. It is a rush to call em without any electronic stuff and have em come running in Also, I carry a light rifle AND a shotgun. When you call them they will stay out of sight until they feel safe to come in. when they do come in, it will be at the angle you didn't suspect and they are moving quick, hence the bead sighted shotgun
Good luck!

ETA: for hogs corn and/or a water source or water hole. Also look for areas that have been rooted up a ton, and find the ways in and out of that area that look like the "path of least resistance" to pigs. if there are grubs there or some roots they are after, they will keep coming back for them



I have been listening to them on youtube...doesnt seem to hard
will have to give it a try



Don't expect to be able to use an open reed call right off the bat. They take time and practice to get just right, which you will have to do at home. You don't want to educate all the coyotes in your hunting areas your first time out!
Start with some closed reed calls at first as they are pretty much idiot proof (I should know), but purchase an open reed if you get serious. Practice makes perfect.


maybe electronic?