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Posted: 2/27/2012 5:32:36 PM
As I understand, if you are killing them at the request of the landowner and they are not being processed for sale, a license is not needed.
Could be wrong, but I doubt if any game wardens in south Texas really give a shit. They usually ask how many kills today, then apologize for interrupting.....  |
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Posted: 2/27/2012 8:33:28 PM
You need a license. A buddy of mine is a warden and he has a bunch of retired le guys come in for a eradication hunt and they all need licenses.
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Posted: 2/27/2012 9:37:08 PM
I called Austin about this last year. If the landowner has invited you to hunt them on his land because of land depredation, they are causing damage to his property, then you don't need a license. If you are paying to hunt then you do, even though they are a non game animal and the state claims no responsibility for them.
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Posted: 2/27/2012 11:48:36 PM
an all these years i've been buying a licience, just ta put some chop's on the table..
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Posted: 2/28/2012 8:37:53 AM
The game wardens here say if you aren't the land owner or agent you need a lic.
In some counties you may get away with it , but there better be a lot of damage to the crop fields to show the warden. |
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Posted: 2/28/2012 9:09:16 AM
hello, the mafia needs it's cut of everything.
for $50, seriously, be better than the alternative. |
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Posted: 2/28/2012 10:41:12 AM
[quote]Originally Posted By itsARanchrifle:
The game wardens here say if you aren't the land owner or agent you need a lic. In some counties you may get away with it , but there better be a lot of damage to the crop fields to show the warden.[/quote] the warden tis just doing his job.. buy my licience every year... do most of my hunting on WMA's they got some good programs... that thar hog hunten for free tis a myth, unlees like u stated... |
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Posted: 2/28/2012 7:51:30 PM
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The danger of incorrectly stating you “don’t need a license to hunt them”…is that someone who doesn’t know any better will end up in trouble.
“Trouble”, in this case …..will be a Class A Parks & Wildlife Code misdemeanor ($500.00-$4,000.00 fine and/or up to one year in jail). Here is what you need to know about hunting/taking/controlling Feral Hogs in Texas: Feral Hogs (and Russian Boar) are considered EXOTICS in Texas. In Texas it is against the law to: 1. Hunt an exotic without a valid hunting license. 2. Hunt an exotic on a public road right-of-way. 3. Hunt an exotic without the landowner’s permission. 4. Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the landowner’s consent. There IS an exception to the need for a license, it reads as follows: Coyotes, if the coyotes are attacking, about to attack, or have recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowl. Depredating feral hogs, if a landowner (resident or non-resident) or landowner’s agent or lessee is taking feral hogs causing depredation on the landowner’s land. Fur-bearing animals, if the hunter possesses a trapper’s license or if the fur-bearing animals are causing depredation. Again, the TP&WD recognizes that hogs (and other animals) are NOT in a constant state of “depredation” and it is TPWD’s position that counts. In the same way coyotes are not always attacking something….or fur-bearers causing depredation, neither are Feral Hogs, hence the distinction. IF you choose to hunt them without a license….make sure you are adhering to the restrictions OR be ready to articulate before a judge/justice of the peace why you thought it was O.K. |
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Posted: 2/28/2012 7:57:25 PM
I get what you are saying
but that is really stupid on TP&WD's part Anyone ever raised pigs? pigs only do two things sleep and eat they always depredate. that's all they do is eat. |
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Posted: 2/28/2012 8:11:30 PM
Originally Posted By Flintknapper:
The danger of incorrectly stating you “don’t need a license to hunt them”…is that someone who doesn’t know any better will end up in trouble. “Trouble”, in this case …..will be a Class A Parks & Wildlife Code misdemeanor ($500.00-$4,000.00 fine and/or up to one year in jail). Here is what you need to know about hunting/taking/controlling Feral Hogs in Texas: Feral Hogs (and Russian Boar) are considered EXOTICS in Texas. In Texas it is against the law to: 1. Hunt an exotic without a valid hunting license. 2. Hunt an exotic on a public road right-of-way. 3. Hunt an exotic without the landowner’s permission. 4. Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the landowner’s consent. There IS an exception to the need for a license, it reads as follows: Coyotes, if the coyotes are attacking, about to attack, or have recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowl. Depredating feral hogs, if a landowner (resident or non-resident) or landowner’s agent or lessee is taking feral hogs causing depredation on the landowner’s land. Fur-bearing animals, if the hunter possesses a trapper’s license or if the fur-bearing animals are causing depredation. Again, the TP&WD recognizes that hogs (and other animals) are NOT in a constant state of “depredation” and it is TPWD’s position that counts. In the same way coyotes are not always attacking something….or fur-bearers causing depredation, neither are Feral Hogs, hence the distinction. IF you choose to hunt them without a license….make sure you are adhering to the restrictions OR be ready to articulate before a judge/justice of the peace why you thought it was O.K. Nice write up but "No Hunting License" is just a Class C... |
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Posted: 2/28/2012 9:14:35 PM
Originally Posted By robbf213:
Nice write up but "No Hunting License" is just a Class C... Yep. A buddy asked to tag along one night and brought his rifle. I didn't know he didn't have a license but he ended up getting a ticket for it. It wasn't a big deal and I don't remember how much the fine was but it wasn't that much. |
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Posted: 2/29/2012 10:55:47 PM
There are really only two ways to look at this:
1) if I were out on my own place, shooting pigs running around in my corn, I do not need a license to run them off or take revenge for pulling up the seed. If you were my buddy, helping me shoot the bastards and leaving them there, you wojld not need a license, either for that particular hunt...err.... eradication session. 2) If I am out, guiding a hunt, even in the corn fields, and I have out of state hunters with me, they have to have a non-resident license. That's how its done here. |
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Posted: 3/1/2012 6:53:48 PM
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Originally Posted By robbf213:
Originally Posted By Flintknapper:
The danger of incorrectly stating you “don’t need a license to hunt them”…is that someone who doesn’t know any better will end up in trouble. “Trouble”, in this case …..will be a Class A Parks & Wildlife Code misdemeanor ($500.00-$4,000.00 fine and/or up to one year in jail). Here is what you need to know about hunting/taking/controlling Feral Hogs in Texas: Feral Hogs (and Russian Boar) are considered EXOTICS in Texas. In Texas it is against the law to: 1. Hunt an exotic without a valid hunting license. 2. Hunt an exotic on a public road right-of-way. 3. Hunt an exotic without the landowner’s permission. 4. Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the landowner’s consent. There IS an exception to the need for a license, it reads as follows: Coyotes, if the coyotes are attacking, about to attack, or have recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowl. Depredating feral hogs, if a landowner (resident or non-resident) or landowner’s agent or lessee is taking feral hogs causing depredation on the landowner’s land. Fur-bearing animals, if the hunter possesses a trapper’s license or if the fur-bearing animals are causing depredation. Again, the TP&WD recognizes that hogs (and other animals) are NOT in a constant state of “depredation” and it is TPWD’s position that counts. In the same way coyotes are not always attacking something….or fur-bearers causing depredation, neither are Feral Hogs, hence the distinction. IF you choose to hunt them without a license….make sure you are adhering to the restrictions OR be ready to articulate before a judge/justice of the peace why you thought it was O.K. Nice write up but "No Hunting License" is just a Class C... Hunting an EXOTIC (which is what feral hogs are classified as) IS a Class "A" Parks and Wildlife code misdemeanor. Look on page 73 of the 2011-2012 outdoor annual. I do my research before posting. |
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Posted: 3/1/2012 7:33:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Flintknapper:
Originally Posted By robbf213:
Originally Posted By Flintknapper:
The danger of incorrectly stating you “don’t need a license to hunt them”…is that someone who doesn’t know any better will end up in trouble. “Trouble”, in this case …..will be a Class A Parks & Wildlife Code misdemeanor ($500.00-$4,000.00 fine and/or up to one year in jail). Here is what you need to know about hunting/taking/controlling Feral Hogs in Texas: Feral Hogs (and Russian Boar) are considered EXOTICS in Texas. In Texas it is against the law to: 1. Hunt an exotic without a valid hunting license. 2. Hunt an exotic on a public road right-of-way. 3. Hunt an exotic without the landowner’s permission. 4. Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the landowner’s consent. There IS an exception to the need for a license, it reads as follows: Coyotes, if the coyotes are attacking, about to attack, or have recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowl. Depredating feral hogs, if a landowner (resident or non-resident) or landowner’s agent or lessee is taking feral hogs causing depredation on the landowner’s land. Fur-bearing animals, if the hunter possesses a trapper’s license or if the fur-bearing animals are causing depredation. Again, the TP&WD recognizes that hogs (and other animals) are NOT in a constant state of “depredation” and it is TPWD’s position that counts. In the same way coyotes are not always attacking something….or fur-bearers causing depredation, neither are Feral Hogs, hence the distinction. IF you choose to hunt them without a license….make sure you are adhering to the restrictions OR be ready to articulate before a judge/justice of the peace why you thought it was O.K. Nice write up but "No Hunting License" is just a Class C... Hunting an EXOTIC (which is what feral hogs are classified as) IS a Class "A" Parks and Wildlife code misdemeanor. Look on page 73 of the 2011-2012 outdoor annual. I do my research before posting. On your numbered items, 1-4. Number one is a class C, 2-4 are class A's. You seriously think hunting hogs without a license is one step below a State Jail Felony? Any GW Filing a Class A on someone hunting hogs without a license would probably be fired. It's just a Class C. It may be according to the "letter of the law" a class A but in reality, class C'a are all that ever filed. I do my research too because I write the tickets...  |
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Posted: 3/1/2012 8:32:43 PM
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On your numbered items, 1-4. Number one is a class C, 2-4 are class A's. You seriously think hunting hogs without a license is one step below a State Jail Felony? Any GW Filing a Class A on someone hunting hogs without a license would probably be fired. It's just a Class C. It may be according to the "letter of the law" a class A but in reality, class C'a are all that ever filed. I do my research too because I write the tickets...
What you choose to do in the field (using your discretion) is up to you and I applaud you for being reasonable, however the "letter of law" is as I stated and not incorrect because you choose not to enforce it, right? 
The point is (and it should be plain), that the potential for a hefty fine exists, whether a GW or judge chooses to levy it...is up to them...but not something you should bet on. Get a license. |
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Posted: 3/1/2012 8:54:09 PM
Originally Posted By Flintknapper:
On your numbered items, 1-4. Number one is a class C, 2-4 are class A's. You seriously think hunting hogs without a license is one step below a State Jail Felony? Any GW Filing a Class A on someone hunting hogs without a license would probably be fired. It's just a Class C. It may be according to the "letter of the law" a class A but in reality, class C'a are all that ever filed. I do my research too because I write the tickets...
What you choose to do in the field (using your discretion) is up to you and I applaud you for being reasonable, however the "letter of law" is as I stated and not incorrect because you choose not to enforce it, right?
The point is (and it should be plain), that the potential for a hefty fine exists, whether a GW or judge chooses to levy it...is up to them...but not something you should bet on. Get a license. Correct, the short answer is get a license, its always cheaper than the alternative.. But seriously, a GW would probably get fired or at a minimum some "counseling" for filing a Class A, it is ALWAYS a Class C unless there are extenuating circumstances. Hogs just aren't looked at like other exotics. |
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Posted: 3/1/2012 10:39:06 PM
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Believe me…no one wants hogs GONE more than I do…. and as much “slack” as the State can afford us….is much appreciated. I’ve been battling them for over 25 yrs. (read below). Feral Hog Control Nonetheless, the LAW makes no distinction between the Feral Hogs and other exotics in terms of the penalty that can be imposed. I didn’t write the law and I fully understand that a “law unenforced is no law at all” for practical purposes. That may be your point (or not). Mine is to point out that the law does exist and the penalty CAN be administered, so you have to weigh that against buying a $48.00 type (157) for non-residents or a 101 license (a whopping $25.00) for residents. |
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Posted: 3/4/2012 11:01:45 AM
You must pay to hunt the king's feral, destructive, invasive vermin.
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Posted: 3/4/2012 6:20:50 PM
Originally Posted By oulufinn:
You must pay to hunt the king's feral, destructive, invasive vermin. Yes, unfortunately...the "State" wants to realize a revenue off of the resource (Feral Hogs) BUT doesn't want any responsibility for them. That is exactly why they moved them from the Non-Game status they held, to "Exotics" a few years ago. By definition (non-indigenous), they have ALWAYS been "exotics", but NON-GAME animals were (and are) fairly heavily regulated. Once the Feral Hog population exploded and landowners started complaining....the State conveniently changed their status to an "Exotic" animal....meaning the State does NOT own them like game animals, or regulate them heavily like non-game animals! They still impose certain restrictions and regulations (in the form or license requirements and certain rules on State owned land), but they want to "wash their hands" of the hogs as much as possible. So...on the one hand, they want nothing to do with them, on the other...they can (and will) fine you for certain transgressions. Lovely....huh?
For the most part (in Texas) hogs are hated by landowners...and are "shoot on sight" animals. Some folks manage to make a living off selling hunts, some landowners recoup some of their loses by doing the same thing, and "hog-doggers" of course want them around, but Feral Hogs are a scourge and out of control down here. |
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Posted: 3/5/2012 9:50:46 AM
Originally Posted By Flintknapper:
Originally Posted By oulufinn:
You must pay to hunt the king's feral, destructive, invasive vermin. Yes, unfortunately...the "State" wants to realize a revenue off of the resource (Feral Hogs) BUT doesn't want any responsibility for them. That is exactly why they moved them from the Non-Game status they held, to "Exotics" a few years ago. By definition (non-indigenous), they have ALWAYS been "exotics", but NON-GAME animals were (and are) fairly heavily regulated. Once the Feral Hog population exploded and landowners started complaining....the State conveniently changed their status to an "Exotic" animal....meaning the State does NOT own them like game animals, or regulate them heavily like non-game animals! They still impose certain restrictions and regulations (in the form or license requirements and certain rules on State owned land), but they want to "wash their hands" of the hogs as much as possible. So...on the one hand, they want nothing to do with them, on the other...they can (and will) fine you for certain transgressions. Lovely....huh?
For the most part (in Texas) hogs are hated by landowners...and are "shoot on sight" animals. Some folks manage to make a living off selling hunts, some landowners recoup some of their loses by doing the same thing, and "hog-doggers" of course want them around, but Feral Hogs are a scourge and out of control down here. ya'll still having alot of hog problems were ya'll be? thar been alot of preasure around here.. done several recon's of area always had luck... seen 0 hog's on the hoof.. had just got me some 55gr hps TulAmmo looken for a place ta try put some chops in the freezer.. got a tip on place but bye time e-mailed em twas to late, add was a few day's old, lot of people willing ta help out around here, hog's tis getting hard ta find...  |
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Posted: 3/8/2012 7:40:25 PM
Don't mean to jump in here, but I am 16 years old and my dad and I are going to South Texas this weekend to hog hunt with my cousin.
He (my cousin) is about 40 or so and he leases 2000 acres. Anyways, he hunts pigs down there all the time.
I just turned 16 and have not taken my hunters safety. (bad I know)
But if we are on his land, and he is related to us, and we don't plan eating the meat, do I need a hunting license?
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Posted: 3/8/2012 9:15:54 PM
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Don't mean to jump in here, but I am 16 years old and my dad and I are going to South Texas this weekend to hog hunt with my cousin. He (my cousin) is about 40 or so and he leases 2000 acres. Anyways, he hunts pigs down there all the time. I just turned 16 and have not taken my hunters safety. (bad I know) But if we are on his land, and he is related to us, and we don't plan eating the meat, do I need a hunting license? Simple answer is yes. |
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Posted: 3/8/2012 10:45:55 PM
But I can't get a hunting license without having my hunters safety right? Looks like it's paper targets for me this weekend...
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Posted: 3/9/2012 9:05:29 AM
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But I can't get a hunting license without having my hunters safety right? Looks like it's paper targets for me this weekend... You can get a onetime pass on the hunters ed. |
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Posted: 3/9/2012 8:54:36 PM
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Originally Posted By 72Bushy:
Don't mean to jump in here, but I am 16 years old and my dad and I are going to South Texas this weekend to hog hunt with my cousin. He (my cousin) is about 40 or so and he leases 2000 acres. Anyways, he hunts pigs down there all the time. I just turned 16 and have not taken my hunters safety. (bad I know) But if we are on his land, and he is related to us, and we don't plan eating the meat, do I need a hunting license? Bushy, you are NOT out of luck. Since you are still 16 yrs. old....you DO need a hunting license but you need only be "accompanied" by another person fulfilling the requirements below: Accompanied means: By a person who is at least 17, who is licensed to hunt in Texas, who has passed hunter education or is exempt (born before Sept. 2, 1971), and you must be within normal voice control. Proof of certification or deferral is required to be on your person while hunting. Note: Certification is not required to purchase a hunting license. Once you turn 17...you must have a hunting license AND have completed a Hunters Safety Course the one exception being you can take advantage of the ONE TIME deferral: Hunter Education Deferral Any person 17 years of age or older who has not completed a hunter education program may defer completion for up to one year. A deferral may only be obtained once and is only valid until the end of the current license year. You must be accompanied while hunting if you have a deferral. A person who has been convicted or has received deferred adjudication for violation of the mandatory hunter education requirement is prohibited from applying for a deferral. Take the course by August 31 of the current license year and receive a $5 discount So....get your youth hunters license: Youth Hunting License (Type 169): $7 - For any person, resident or non-resident, under 17 years of age at the date of license purchase. Make sure you are "accompanied" and go get those hogs..........Lad! Hunter Ed FAQs Flint. |
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