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Posted: 8/18/2016 7:23:39 PM EDT
Is there a way to check for this with a home kit? I heard it's very common in bears and cats.
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Posted: 8/18/2016 10:21:51 PM EDT
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I don't know about any home tests, but seeing the effects in two friends who contracted it processing a bear, if I even had an inkling of contracting it, I'd be making a doctor's appointment asap.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2016 12:03:49 AM EDT
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It's probably wise to assume that the flesh of bears, mountain lions (and probably smaller specimens of felines, and canine predators, too) harbor trichinae, and ought not be eaten unless thoroughly cooked, as was once and until only fairly recently the standard for cooking pork. Ignore at some painful peril...
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Posted: 8/19/2016 10:33:55 AM EDT
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if you think it may have it. throw it out. it is just not worth the trouble .
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Posted: 8/19/2016 10:37:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50-140:
I don't know about any home tests, but seeing the effects in two friends who contracted it processing a bear, if I even had an inkling of contracting it, I'd be making a doctor's appointment asap. They contracted it without eating it, jus from handling contaminated (infested?) flesh, or am I misunderstanding? |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 10:44:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane:
They contracted it without eating it, jus from handling contaminated (infested?) flesh, or am I misunderstanding? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane:
Originally Posted By 50-140:
I don't know about any home tests, but seeing the effects in two friends who contracted it processing a bear, if I even had an inkling of contracting it, I'd be making a doctor's appointment asap. They contracted it without eating it, jus from handling contaminated (infested?) flesh, or am I misunderstanding? I thought you had to ingest the cysts and your digestive juices would break them down, but maybe someone who knows what he is talking about will check in. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 11:54:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: They contracted it without eating it, jus from handling contaminated (infested?) flesh, or am I misunderstanding? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: Originally Posted By 50-140: I don't know about any home tests, but seeing the effects in two friends who contracted it processing a bear, if I even had an inkling of contracting it, I'd be making a doctor's appointment asap. They contracted it without eating it, jus from handling contaminated (infested?) flesh, or am I misunderstanding? There was a neighborhood black bear causing problems, it was being processed for jerky, ground bear etc. This was being done in a commercial facility. No ppe, (gloves) were being used. Bill cut himself while boning a haunch, his girlfriend had an laceration on her hand. That's how they contracted it. Both were slim in good shape, before the parasite ran it's course they both lost so much weight they ended up being hospitalized. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 3:19:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dsparil]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50-140:
There was a neighborhood black bear causing problems, it was being processed for jerky, ground bear etc. This was being done in a commercial facility. No ppe, (gloves) were being used. Bill cut himself while boning a haunch, his girlfriend had an laceration on her hand. That's how they contracted it. Both were slim in good shape, before the parasite ran it's course they both lost so much weight they ended up being hospitalized. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50-140:
Originally Posted By Grendelsbane:
Originally Posted By 50-140:
I don't know about any home tests, but seeing the effects in two friends who contracted it processing a bear, if I even had an inkling of contracting it, I'd be making a doctor's appointment asap. They contracted it without eating it, jus from handling contaminated (infested?) flesh, or am I misunderstanding? There was a neighborhood black bear causing problems, it was being processed for jerky, ground bear etc. This was being done in a commercial facility. No ppe, (gloves) were being used. Bill cut himself while boning a haunch, his girlfriend had an laceration on her hand. That's how they contracted it. Both were slim in good shape, before the parasite ran it's course they both lost so much weight they ended up being hospitalized.  I guess thoroughly cooked means cut into thin slices and let sear for like an hour. And I actually asked this question not because of bear, but because of raccoons. I heard bears have it quite a bit but raccoons seem to almost universally carry it. There was a thread or post about a guy eating raccoon and how it was very common. Another thread of someone eating bobcat and I'm like uh ok. If Mountain Lions, Bears and Raccoons carry it then I'm sure bobcats do as well. I mean what do they do to check for it? There must be something. Cut open the intestine?
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Posted: 8/19/2016 4:48:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dsparil:
I guess thoroughly cooked means cut into thin slices and let sear for like an hour. And I actually asked this question not because of bear, but because of raccoons. I heard bears have it quite a bit but raccoons seem to almost universally carry it. There was a thread or post about a guy eating raccoon and how it was very common. Another thread of someone eating bobcat and I'm like uh ok. If Mountain Lions, Bears and Raccoons carry it then I'm sure bobcats do as well. I mean what do they do to check for it? There must be something. Cut open the intestine?
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dsparil:
Originally Posted By 50-140:
Originally Posted By Grendelsbane:
Originally Posted By 50-140:
I don't know about any home tests, but seeing the effects in two friends who contracted it processing a bear, if I even had an inkling of contracting it, I'd be making a doctor's appointment asap. They contracted it without eating it, jus from handling contaminated (infested?) flesh, or am I misunderstanding? There was a neighborhood black bear causing problems, it was being processed for jerky, ground bear etc. This was being done in a commercial facility. No ppe, (gloves) were being used. Bill cut himself while boning a haunch, his girlfriend had an laceration on her hand. That's how they contracted it. Both were slim in good shape, before the parasite ran it's course they both lost so much weight they ended up being hospitalized. I guess thoroughly cooked means cut into thin slices and let sear for like an hour. And I actually asked this question not because of bear, but because of raccoons. I heard bears have it quite a bit but raccoons seem to almost universally carry it. There was a thread or post about a guy eating raccoon and how it was very common. Another thread of someone eating bobcat and I'm like uh ok. If Mountain Lions, Bears and Raccoons carry it then I'm sure bobcats do as well. I mean what do they do to check for it? There must be something. Cut open the intestine?
Pigs mostly, in my day. Don't know about now. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 4:54:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kaos]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dsparil: I guess thoroughly cooked means cut into thin slices and let sear for like an hour. And I actually asked this question not because of bear, but because of raccoons. I heard bears have it quite a bit but raccoons seem to almost universally carry it. There was a thread or post about a guy eating raccoon and how it was very common. Another thread of someone eating bobcat and I'm like uh ok. If Mountain Lions, Bears and Raccoons carry it then I'm sure bobcats do as well. I mean what do they do to check for it? There must be something. Cut open the intestine? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dsparil: Originally Posted By 50-140: Originally Posted By Grendelsbane: Originally Posted By 50-140: I don't know about any home tests, but seeing the effects in two friends who contracted it processing a bear, if I even had an inkling of contracting it, I'd be making a doctor's appointment asap. They contracted it without eating it, jus from handling contaminated (infested?) flesh, or am I misunderstanding? There was a neighborhood black bear causing problems, it was being processed for jerky, ground bear etc. This was being done in a commercial facility. No ppe, (gloves) were being used. Bill cut himself while boning a haunch, his girlfriend had an laceration on her hand. That's how they contracted it. Both were slim in good shape, before the parasite ran it's course they both lost so much weight they ended up being hospitalized. I guess thoroughly cooked means cut into thin slices and let sear for like an hour. And I actually asked this question not because of bear, but because of raccoons. I heard bears have it quite a bit but raccoons seem to almost universally carry it. There was a thread or post about a guy eating raccoon and how it was very common. Another thread of someone eating bobcat and I'm like uh ok. If Mountain Lions, Bears and Raccoons carry it then I'm sure bobcats do as well. I mean what do they do to check for it? There must be something. Cut open the intestine? Hunting wild hogs has always seemed iffy to me, but I don't speak from experience. http://umm.edu/health/medical/ency/articles/trichinosis "Causes Trichinosis is a disease caused by eating meat that has not been thoroughly cooked and contains cysts (larvae, or immature worms) of Trichinella spiralis. Trichinella spiralis can be found in pork, bear, walrus, fox, rat, horse, and lion. Wild animals, especially carnivores (meat eaters) or omnivores (animals that eat both meat and plants), should be considered possible sources of roundworm disease. Domestic meat animals raised specifically for eating under United States Department of Agriculture (government) guidelines and inspection can be considered safe. For this reason, trichinosis is rare in the United States, but it is a common infection worldwide." "Prevention Pork and meat from wild animals should be cooked until well done (no traces of pink). Freezing pork at subzero temperatures (5°F - 15°C, or colder) for 3 to 4 weeks will kill the worms. Freezing wild game meat does not always kill the worms. Smoking, salting, and drying meat are also not reliable methods of killing the worms." |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 9:02:42 PM EDT
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Elders have always said to be careful when cutting up bears and other animals that carry it.
Also to make sure you cook them well. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2016 7:43:51 PM EDT
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My brother inlaw is an avid bear hunter in OR. Early on in his youth his brother was helping him skin out his bear and cut himself with the knife they were skinning with. He contracted Trichinosis and nearly died from it. Since then they do not touch the animals without gloves. They wear heavy duty industrial rubber gloves. They also cut up the meat in small portions and freeze it prior to using it.
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Posted: 8/27/2016 8:38:07 PM EDT
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Anyone think battery acid, for tanning, would kill the worms?
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Posted: 9/7/2016 6:11:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: portablegorilla]
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Just assume they all have it and cook it accordingly. Save rare and raw recipes for deer and elk, use the bear for pot roasts, ground meat, stew and broth.
We eat a ton of bear and pigs, never had an issue. I'm also planning on eating my wolf if I'm able to connect this year. |
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Posted: 9/8/2016 5:00:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dsparil: Anyone think battery acid, for tanning, would kill the worms? Would freezing the hide for a duration be less destructive? |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 9/10/2017 1:37:25 AM EDT
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Trich is caused by eating the meat. I do not believe there is a chance of contraction by handling.
The only way to be sure you are save is to cook the meat above 160. I would consider all bear to be carriers. |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 8:27:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10mmJ]
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Steven Rinella contracted Trichinosis , he talks about it here . https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=303&v=Rx5ZKJ0Vozc
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Posted: 9/19/2017 5:32:15 PM EDT
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WA, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2017 11:06:17 PM EDT
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Trich is scary but as long as you cook it for the appropiate time ( there's some handy charts on the Internet), you'll be fine. I read a study about some bears in Western Montana that stated 90% of the bears tested ( I don't remember the number but it was alot of bears) carried the virus so assume all bears have it.
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