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HABU
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Posted: 8/10/2008 6:20:42 PM

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I'm an avid deer and elk hunter that always has a bear tag while hunting. The liberals outlawed hound hunting so the populations are growing and I'm bound to run into one sometime, but don't target them.

I am wondering if people hunt bears for just the hide or if the hide is secondary to the meat. I suppose that for some hunters the hide is secondary while for others the meat is secondary.

In your opinion do the majority of bear hunters hunt for the hide or for the meat?

Is it poor form to waste the meat because you only wanted the hide?

Is it poor form to waste the hide because you only wanted the meat?

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Posted: 8/11/2008 12:36:23 AM
Out here in rural Alaska we hunt for both hide and meat. There are people who do just hunt for the hide when the bears are on fish.
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Posted: 8/11/2008 2:28:32 AM
If I get a tag I'll use both.

People tell me as long as the bear is not eating trash or road kill the meat is great.

I'll probably need a pro to deal with the fur once I get it off.
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Posted: 8/14/2008 11:04:34 PM
Hide is best in spring when they leave the dens with new coats but meat sucks after a winter of hybernation.

Meat is best in the fall when bears have engorged themselves with blueberrys, but the hides suck after a summer of wear.
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Posted: 8/14/2008 11:11:49 PM
If I went bear hunting I would find someplace to donate the meat to. Someplace or someone.
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Posted: 8/14/2008 11:19:53 PM

Originally Posted By Robertesq1:
Hide is best in spring when they leave the dens with new coats but meat sucks after a winter of hybernation.

Meat is best in the fall when bears have engorged themselves with blueberrys, but the hides suck after a summer of wear.


up here the hide is best in the fall, meat is best then too


luckily I get two black bear tags a year so I can get both!

I have to travel a ways to get grizzly though


and I eat bear meat, though I also like the hides
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Posted: 8/14/2008 11:58:16 PM

Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
If I went bear hunting I would find someplace to donate the meat to. Someplace or someone.


that's what I did.
I don't like it anyway's, but the old addage that the bear tastes like the last thing it ate did me in on this one.

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Posted: 8/15/2008 12:03:03 AM
LOL beef! its whats fer dinner!
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Posted: 8/15/2008 12:08:58 AM

Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
LOL beef! its whats fer dinner!
Originally Posted By Bhart89:
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Posted: 8/15/2008 8:51:45 PM
I have killed 7 bears in the wilderness of Idaho in the spring.

Most of the time I hunt for 4 or 5 days backpacking before I find a bear I want to shoot.

In those 4 or 5 days I eat nothing but freeze dried food and trailmix.


Every time I kill a bear I have such desire to eat the backstrap. Every time I cut it out and cook it on the fire...take 1 bite and about puke.....understand

I have started giving the hides away to familly and friends. Bear skins are hard to come by in Indiana.
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Posted: 8/19/2008 4:32:35 PM
In the Spring the hides can be beautiful, however, do you want to eat something that hasn't shit for six months?
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Posted: 8/19/2008 9:34:13 PM

Originally Posted By Marsh_Rat:
In the Spring the hides can be beautiful, however, do you want to eat something that hasn't shit for six months?


I don't want to eat a nasty assed bear at all. I was hoping everyone would say they just hunt bears for the hide.

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Posted: 8/21/2008 9:18:16 PM

Originally Posted By HABU:

Originally Posted By Marsh_Rat:
In the Spring the hides can be beautiful, however, do you want to eat something that hasn't shit for six months?


I don't want to eat a nasty assed bear at all. I was hoping everyone would say they just hunt bears for the hide.



Sorry dude. I hunt em for the meat. The hide is secondary. I do however have them tanned just to hang around. Mabe some day a rug...
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Posted: 9/1/2008 12:48:35 PM
the only time I ate bear was at a cook out. some guy had killed it(of course) marinaded it, and cooked it on a grill.it was quiet good. of course, there was alcohol involved.
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Posted: 9/2/2008 2:23:04 PM
I think you're going to run into both kinds of hunters. Some want the hide & some want the meat, but most will want both. I was in Ontario bear hunting for the first week of the season. 9 hunters, two guys got bears. I'd expect some dirty looks if you plan to waste the meat.

The second guy to get a bear that week was after the hide. It was interesting to see how the rest of the hunters reacted to that because it never even crossed their minds to not be interested in the meat. That guy had no respect around camp from the other hunters.

The lady at the camp ended up cooking some of the meat for everyone to try and I'll admit it was some of the best meat I've ever eaten in my life. I never expected it to be that good, but it was absolutely delicious. Hard to be any more fresh of a meal than some thing that was shot the day before and then marinated for 24 hours.
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Posted: 9/2/2008 6:19:26 PM
my family rule is ...you kill it you eat it.

that being said....I have only tried black bear. Brown bear is supposabliy not so good.
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Posted: 9/7/2008 1:50:42 PM

Originally Posted By teddy12b:
Hard to be any more fresh of a meal than some thing that was shot the day before and then marinated for 24 hours.


I'd never consider shooting a deer or elk just for the hide or for the cape and antlers. Bear, however, seem to have a slightly different "trophy stigma" status, undoubtedly at least partly to the fact that you need to marinade a bear for a day to make it palatable. You could make a bears ass hole taste good with enough marinade. Seems to me that the whole omnivore thing is working against it as well.
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Posted: 9/8/2008 7:57:15 AM
I don't remember exactly how that lady cooked the bear, but I remember eating it and it was delicious!
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Posted: 9/8/2008 8:37:28 AM
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A friend of mine tagged one during one of the few recent seasons here in NJ.

He didn't care for the meat: said he could stew it to make it palatable, but that was about it.

That said, the bear population in northern New Jersey has become... "problematic". The state really has to either re-open bear season or stop trying to develop every last acre :-/

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Posted: 9/9/2008 2:04:07 PM

Originally Posted By stefan040271:
my family rule is ...you kill it you eat it.

that being said....I have only tried black bear. Brown bear is supposabliy not so good.


That is our rule too.
Only exception is you have someone who wants what you don't...

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Posted: 9/14/2008 11:08:46 PM
I never got to eat my bear, someone else got it from the freezer.

I do have a nice rug though.
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Posted: 9/14/2008 11:28:02 PM

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
I never got to eat my bear, someone else got it from the freezer.

I do have a nice rug though.


Sounds like everything worked out just fine for you.
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Posted: 9/14/2008 11:30:07 PM
I've had bear once--ground bear in lasagna. It was very good. Whether this was in spite of the contents of the lasagna, I do not know.

Doesn't mean I am gonna stop hunting bears. Was out this weekend in fact.
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Posted: 9/20/2008 11:29:57 AM
I guess I am the odd man out here. Hell, I love bear meat. I will reach over a platter of venison to get at some bear roast.

Hides? Those go to the taxidermist and get turned into mounts.
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Posted: 9/22/2008 8:29:49 PM
I have only recently (today) considered hunting bear for many reasons. The location I will hunt has a minimal deer population due to coyotes, but is overrun with black bear. The location has 25 miles bordering a national park!

I originally planned on hunting squirrels til deer season. Now I plan on hunting squirrels til deer season, then bear in bear season, and coyotes every chance I get.

As someone new to hunting, please reinforce my thoughts, or break me of my misconceptions.

Lastly, I have lost my job, so a new gun is out of the ?. Here are my available choices and plan for the jobs ahead:

Ruger 10/22 w/ 4x scope Squirrel and Coyotes if I get the chance (is a head shot needed to kill them?)


Vulcan (please refrain from pointing out how much I f'ed up buying this brand AR! I am painfully aware) Coyote


Remington 700 in .243 Deer and Bear (I am concerned that this is not enough gun for a Bear) I am of the opinion that good marksmanship is more important than caliber. That being said, I REALLY do not want to only wound a bear, out of concern for the animal an my own preservation as well!

Please feel free to offer your opinions for me, esp. in regards to .243/bear combo

Extra credit - I plan to wear a sidearm for self-defense from bear/coyote packs, and renegade albinos. (This is legal for me)
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Posted: 9/22/2008 8:42:37 PM
Carry the .40.

A .22 is great for squirrels but not so great for coyote. I've seen a coyote suck up ten of them before laying down.

Use the .243 for coyotes. Hornady loads their 58gr vmax. That ought to be perfect. Use an 85gr TSX or a heavier bonded bullet for deer and bear. Neither are particularly tough, the only concern is the potential for bullet failure. Use good bullets to eliminate this concern.
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