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Posted: 11/1/2011 1:04:51 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Any advice on calling/set-ups or what to look for for a newbie? |
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Posted: 11/1/2011 1:53:28 AM
Don't call during the season, you'll scare everything away and piss off everyone else around you. Practice calling before opening day(no guns with you of course) or during any gaps if your state has them.
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Posted: 11/1/2011 10:18:19 AM
It'll be dark when you set your decoys. The sun will eventually rise. Set up so that the sun rises behind you. It's tough to shoot birds when you're staring into the sun. Ideally you want the wind at your back too. Ducks turn into the wind to land.
Throw your decoy weights into the wind. Make sure you leave a place in the spread for the birds to land that is most advantageous to your shooting position. Cover up. Imagine what you look like from overhead. Keep your face down and covered. It looks like a paper plate. Don't move. When a flock comes in, let the ones in front land and start shooting at the ones in back. They will be the ones out of range first and by the time you are ready to shoot your second and third bird the ones in front will be easy targets as they will have to start from zero to get into the air. Ducks will land in goose decoys. Geese won't land in duck decoys. Set your divers upwind from your puddlers. They take farther to land with their skinny wings. Keep recovery of the bird in mind when you shoot. A lot of times the possibility exists to be able to kill birds cleanly and have them fall where they will be unrecoverable. Only shoot at birds that will drop where you can get to them. This is mostly the case for guys who hunt without dogs or boats, but can be applicable in all situations. Pattern your shotgun. Buy a couple of boxes of different stuff and pattern it. You'll be amazed at how some loads will look really great coming out of your gun, and others look like a claymore pattern. That same load might work great in your buddy's gun. You never know until you hit the patterning board. When I chased them hard, I used 3" inch steel No.1s mostly. It was a compromise for big northern ducks and geese. Steel 3s work great for ducks. Hevi-Shot is evil in a box, but pretty expensive. make sure your choke is screwed all the way down, well lubricated with grease, and not over tightened. Steel shot hammers the shit out of chokes. Don't call. Practice for a couple of years in your truck against an instructional CD. Robo ducks can work for you, but mostly they will end up working against you after the first week or two of the season. The adhesive they use for windshield replacement is the best neoprene wader repair stuff in the world. Comes in a caulking tube. Put your wallet and cell in a waterproof container. I use to use two zip lock bags one inside the other but there are better alternatives now. Don't shoot early, don't shoot late. Hunt as if you are being watched by a guy with a badge and binoculars...because eventually you will be. |
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Posted: 11/1/2011 11:14:09 AM
[Last Edit: 11/1/2011 11:15:11 AM by Mach]
I have a different take on taking ducks.
I have only done this in the suburbs It's not really duck hunting, it's called duck jumping. All you need is a shotgun and some steel shot. and a vehicle with music and the ability to leave quickly Drive around fast checking all the spots you can see from the road while listening to country music to get you in the mood. Find a spot that has ducks. If you can see 2 there are probably many more. Grab the gun and quietly load the shells. Don't slam the case or the trunk. Check for dog walkers, hikers, bicyclists, old ladies with walkers and assorted hippies. walk away from the truck / car as if you are walking for exercise. Don't sneak up on them. Approximate 500 feet from houses or what ever your local hunting rules say. When you get to 40 yards or they start to quack to each other raise your shotgun Shoot when they take off into the wind ( should be approaching them upwind ) If you get to 30 yards and they are still in the water, blast at least one of them. When the rest take off shoot 2 more. retrieve said ducks, get back to vehicle, unload and put shotgun away in case or trunk, put ducks in container or trunk, get in vehicle and drive away before someone calls the cops and they show up. My record from first spotting to 2 dead ducks is 10 minutes, all mostly legal of course. |
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Posted: 11/1/2011 11:19:49 PM
Originally Posted By SevenMaryThree:
I Don't shoot early, don't shoot late. Hunt as if you are being watched by a guy with a badge and binoculars...because eventually you will be. Keep this in mind, then remember it. I made the mistake of going by what someone else told me for what time shooting hours were once. Not sure of the rule in other states but IA is 1/2 hour before sunrise to sunset. Another guy showed up on the pond I was hunting, had a shooting hours chart. He said it was a sunrise chart and shooting hours were half an hour before the chart. Nope, the chart was actual shooting time, I was dumb and listened to him, and got caught. My own fault, and I was fined for shooting 8 minutes early. Also, learn what the different ducks look like in the air, especially low-limit birds(in IA this means pintail, canvasback, scaup and woodies). These 4 are one or two bird lmits while the others are between four and six per bag-again, these are IA limits, your state is probably different. Another piece of advice-DON'T MISTAKE A SWAN FOR A GOOSE! My cousin did that this year. $1650 fine and his gun was siezed until it's paid. Most importantly, try to find a local duck hunter with waterfowl experience who will let you hunt with him a few times(ideally for the season when your schedules allow). Learn from that guy, if you find yourself in IA with a nonresident license you're more than welcome to look me up. For the first season it's easier to piggyback with someone who already knows what he's doing, and decide if you like that type of hunting before spending a lot of money on new stuff like decoys and calls. |
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Posted: 11/2/2011 4:01:36 PM
There are plenty of duck hunters that will take out a new person. Quite often that "ducky day" falls on one that his hunting partner can't go.
Also, don't be an asshole if you do find someone to hunt with and then pound their hunting spots by yourself. It takes a lot of time to scout out decent hunting spots. We already had that happen this year. My hunting partner and I scouted out a pretty good spot and brought along another guy we occasionally hunt with. That guy brought two other guys with him (it was a last minute thing...long story). We did our hunting thing and parted ways. A week later the guy calls his two "friends" to ask why he hasn't heard from them and wondered if they were still going to go hunting with him. They told him "oh...we've been hunting Kidney's spot all week. We will call you next time we head out". They have yet to call. I'm not too broken up b/c it was a walk in spot(still a shitty thing to do. Plus it's a fucking river and requires a dog to retrieve down birds, so whatever they shot floated away). I have a boat which gives me access to a quite a few other places, though. |
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Posted: 11/5/2011 12:31:36 AM
Thanks for the info guys
I went out this morning with a buddy and his psycho lab, we saw quite a few ducks but didn't have anything come into our decoys. I had been watching videos and practicing my calling all week, didn't seem to do much. We had some huge rafts of ducks and geese out on the main lake that was keeping the birds from really being interested in coming into the backwater area we set up in. I had fun, so thats all that counts I'll keep on it! |
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Posted: 11/5/2011 12:38:51 AM
Originally Posted By IdahoJohnny: We had some huge rafts of ducks and geese out on the main lake that was keeping the birds from really being interested in coming into the backwater area we set up in. When that happens you gotta bust 'em up. Take a boat ride (guns cased) or lay into them with cut shells from afar. |
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Posted: 11/5/2011 4:14:22 PM
Originally Posted By SevenMaryThree:
Originally Posted By IdahoJohnny:
We had some huge rafts of ducks and geese out on the main lake that was keeping the birds from really being interested in coming into the backwater area we set up in. When that happens you gotta bust 'em up. Take a boat ride (guns cased) or lay into them with cut shells from afar. Good to know, would be fun to cruise right through them with the boat.....too bad you can't go drive-by on them |
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Posted: 11/6/2011 3:42:45 PM
Also to bad you can not legally go "bust em up" harassing waterfowl is illegal in most states, as is herding or scaring up the ducks in order to shoot them.
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Posted: 11/6/2011 5:31:56 PM
Originally Posted By G23RTF: Also to bad you can not legally go "bust em up" harassing waterfowl is illegal in most states, as is herding or scaring up the ducks in order to shoot them. I didn't say run into them helter skelter with the throttle wide open. Going for a boat ride with unloaded, cased guns to take a closer look is perfectly legal. |
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Posted: 11/7/2011 11:30:40 AM
Originally Posted By SevenMaryThree:
Originally Posted By G23RTF:
Also to bad you can not legally go "bust em up" harassing waterfowl is illegal in most states, as is herding or scaring up the ducks in order to shoot them. I didn't say run into them helter skelter with the throttle wide open. Going for a boat ride with unloaded, cased guns to take a closer look is perfectly legal. you are saying it's illegal to go out in a boat and shoot ducks sitting in the water? Not where I am, I don't think. |
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Posted: 11/7/2011 9:35:48 PM
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By SevenMaryThree:
Originally Posted By G23RTF:
Also to bad you can not legally go "bust em up" harassing waterfowl is illegal in most states, as is herding or scaring up the ducks in order to shoot them. I didn't say run into them helter skelter with the throttle wide open. Going for a boat ride with unloaded, cased guns to take a closer look is perfectly legal. you are saying it's illegal to go out in a boat and shoot ducks sitting in the water? Not where I am, I don't think. Shooting from a boat "under power" is just as illegal as shooting from a car in most states. As for the idea of using the boat to scare them up, I don't know. Casing the guns, travelling to where the ducks are, stopping the boat, uncasing and loading the guns, and shooting the ducks on the water(if they haven't flown yet) may or may not be legal. |
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Posted: 11/9/2011 8:53:47 AM
Originally Posted By shack357: Shooting from a boat "under power" is just as illegal as shooting from a car in most states. As for the idea of using the boat to scare them up, I don't know. Casing the guns, travelling to where the ducks are, stopping the boat, uncasing and loading the guns, and shooting the ducks on the water(if they haven't flown yet) may or may not be legal. Ok...I can see the ligh tbulb hasn't gone on yet, so - 1) Case guns or leave them in the blind. 2) Go for a ride. 3) Look at the ducks. 4) Big rafts take flight and break up into smaller flocks. 5) Go back to blind or area where you have your spread. 6) Ducks you busted up will spend the next couple of hours trading around and be more susceptible to influence from calling as they attempt to regroup. |
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Posted: 11/11/2011 2:15:57 PM
Originally Posted By SevenMaryThree:
Originally Posted By shack357:
Shooting from a boat "under power" is just as illegal as shooting from a car in most states. As for the idea of using the boat to scare them up, I don't know. Casing the guns, travelling to where the ducks are, stopping the boat, uncasing and loading the guns, and shooting the ducks on the water(if they haven't flown yet) may or may not be legal. Ok...I can see the ligh tbulb hasn't gone on yet, so - 1) Case guns or leave them in the blind. 2) Go for a ride. 3) Look at the ducks. 4) Big rafts take flight and break up into smaller flocks. 5) Go back to blind or area where you have your spread. 6) Ducks you busted up will spend the next couple of hours trading around and be more susceptible to influence from calling as they attempt to regroup. Throw on some blaze orange during the boat ride and wave at the ducks a lot as you putter around the lake. Any game wardens watching will assume you're retarded, rather than up to no good ![]() |
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Posted: 11/11/2011 11:28:00 PM
Originally Posted By sjuhockey10: Originally Posted By SevenMaryThree: Originally Posted By shack357: Shooting from a boat "under power" is just as illegal as shooting from a car in most states. As for the idea of using the boat to scare them up, I don't know. Casing the guns, travelling to where the ducks are, stopping the boat, uncasing and loading the guns, and shooting the ducks on the water(if they haven't flown yet) may or may not be legal. Ok...I can see the ligh tbulb hasn't gone on yet, so - 1) Case guns or leave them in the blind. 2) Go for a ride. 3) Look at the ducks. 4) Big rafts take flight and break up into smaller flocks. 5) Go back to blind or area where you have your spread. 6) Ducks you busted up will spend the next couple of hours trading around and be more susceptible to influence from calling as they attempt to regroup. Throw on some blaze orange during the boat ride and wave at the ducks a lot as you putter around the lake. Any game wardens watching will assume you're retarded, rather than up to no good ![]() Now here's a guy who gets it. |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:51:28 PM
Originally Posted By IdahoJohnny:
Thanks for the info guys I went out this morning with a buddy and his psycho lab, we saw quite a few ducks but didn't have anything come into our decoys. I had been watching videos and practicing my calling all week, didn't seem to do much. We had some huge rafts of ducks and geese out on the main lake that was keeping the birds from really being interested in coming into the backwater area we set up in. I had fun, so thats all that counts I'll keep on it! I tend to write off the rafting ducks, if you drive through them they will just get up swirl around and land again where there are no duck blinds. However sometimes you can exploit a unique situation. Usually it will be nasty weather with a straight wind, where i will position myself where the ducks are turning out of the going with wind direction. Then position my decoys to create just a slight distraction. Now the decoys will usually be out range, but i am only using them for a distreaction. When it goes right i will have little group of ducks moving with the wind towards me fast, but will be turning away before getting into range except for the 1 or 2 ducks that hesitate just enough to end up swinging wide making the turn. This is what i am looking for and plan to make only 1 good shot at the end of my range. Fun as shit when it works out. |
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Posted: 2/9/2012 12:56:10 AM
[Last Edit: 2/9/2012 1:04:24 AM by lokt]
www.duckhuntingchat.com
www.duckboats.net www.ifish.net refugeforums all of the above have some good info. some of it is completely camelfucking bullshit. some of it is good instruction, and may serve as inspiration. Duckhuntingchat is sort of like Arfcom in that respect. I cannot stress enough the importance of scouting, but you're an outdoorsman and are probably quite familiar with the concept. I probably spent 750 bucks on gas for ducks this season, but I would bet that at least 1/3 of that went to scouting before the season opened. If I were to go out and buy two dozen decoys, I would get 6 mallards and the rest would be widgeon and pintails. Everyone uses mallards and hunted ducks shy away from them after a while. After a couple weeks of hunting, jerk strings >> spinning wing decoys. A canoe or kayak increases the territory you can hunt by orders of magnitude. I started with a kayak in fall of 2010. One season and thousands of dollars later....well, it's sort of like BRD. PS, if you're going anywhere in any floating conveyance, wear a lifejacket every time! RE: calling - usually only ducks that are sort of 'looking around' (i.e. flying slightly erratic, slower and lower than normal, as opposed to flying a straight and fast flight pattern some direction besides at your blind) will respond to calling. If they're within a couple hundred yards and flying right at you, cease calling. |
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Posted: 2/9/2012 12:59:07 AM
Originally Posted By SevenMaryThree:
When that happens you gotta bust 'em up. Take a boat ride (guns cased) or lay into them with cut shells from afar. I know what you're saying, but cut steel shot shells could easily ruin a tightly choked gun. |
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Posted: 2/9/2012 9:27:14 PM
[Last Edit: 2/9/2012 9:29:30 PM by supremeweasel67]
Thanks guys.
As a new waterfowl hunter, some of the advice here has been very helpful.
I have been blessed that some Guys have taken me "under their wing" to show me how it is done.
Have spent my life chasing deer and turkeys.
But think I am addicted to this waterfowl hunting thing.
As someone above mentioned, I left the calling to the others.
Want to learn myself.
Bought a call that came with a DVD. Having hard time finding the CDs so I can play in truck.
Anyone have some CDs on learning to call they are willing to lend for awhile.
I can cover shipping to and from when done.
If so, IM for information.
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Posted: 2/12/2012 10:06:14 AM
i have buck gardner's calling instructions on my home computer. i'll upload the MP3's to my host and send you a link. if i forget, send me a PM.
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Posted: 2/12/2012 12:51:52 PM
[Last Edit: 2/16/2012 1:36:25 PM by supremeweasel67]
Originally Posted By BTFU: That would be great.i have buck gardner's calling instructions on my home computer. i'll upload the MP3's to my host and send you a link. if i forget, send me a PM. Thanks. ETA: IM sent, no reply. |
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Posted: 3/1/2012 4:37:19 PM
Well, the above didn't happen.
Anyone else? |
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