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Posted: 1/22/2012 12:38:07 AM
Just an " FYI " for anyone interested in tinkering with " .22 Rimfire Bullet Modification ; Hollow Point/ Flat Point / Cup Point /..." ?

I'm currently living in an apt, .. space is a bit cramped, which restricts many of my " Tinkering Projects ".

D Rock Bullet Modification System: Hollow Point / Cup Point / Flat Point.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=40815

SGB Bullet Trim Tool: Filed Flat Points
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=307938

I just received (1/21/12) my new " D-Rock Bullet Modification System Die/Tools ", & set them up along side a hallway wall ( Table space 24 x 20 ).


D-Rock Tool/Die & Adapter Plate on ENCO Arbor Press.

D - Rock Arbor Adapter Plate.



Lft - Rt:
SGB Trim Tool : .940 / .860 / .800 .
CNC : (2) Aluminum Loading Blocks.
D- Rock : Modification System Adapter Plate.
ENCO : Arbor Press.
D- Rock : White plastic Loading Block.
D- Rock : Modification Bullet Sizer Die , (6) Forming Rod(s) & Collar(s), inside Plastic Storage Case.
Reference Material : Rifleman's Guide To Rimfire Ammunition.

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Posted: 1/22/2012 1:10:52 AM
OK, I admit it. I'm stumped. Why do you need to change the nose configuration of factory-loaded ammunition
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Posted: 1/22/2012 1:35:36 AM
[Last Edit: 1/22/2012 1:48:56 AM by PAPI]
Well, most folks try testing several different brands of .22 LR Ammo, in their " Rifles ", to see what groups best ... ?

Others , might like to use the same accurate ammo ( Rnd Nose ? ) for " Hunting ", with a modification , possibly as a " Hollow Point " ?

And then , there are some folks hoping on improving a " Marginal " ( Less Expensive ) Ammo , into something better, by " Tinkering " with it a bit !!

" ME ", I just like tinkering with them.. It's a " Hobby ".. nothing more, nothing less

Another Type/Make of Modification Tool : Reviewed by Gunblast
http://gunblast.com/Paco2.htm

http://gunblast.com/Paco.htm
Please review the above link, which provides a pretty good description of " What & Why ".. better than I could...

p.s; I also have a " Paco Tool "

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Posted: 1/22/2012 1:41:16 AM
neat!
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Posted: 1/22/2012 1:53:44 AM
Thanks! Every once in a while, I accidentally learn something new.
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Posted: 1/22/2012 1:56:50 AM
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When I shoot those bullets out of that yellow box of aguila in my 10/22 they already all make a 1/4" moa group at 50 yards. Is it really worth messing with them?
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Posted: 1/22/2012 2:01:39 AM
[Last Edit: 1/22/2012 2:25:03 AM by PAPI]
Well, this is the closest thing to " Reloading " for Rimfires !!

IMHO: It has alot to do, ... with " Consistenly Resizing / Reforming " the Bullet Diameters .. on less expensive Ammo.

Hey, it's not for everyone .... ?

I currently only play with " Bolt Action Rifles ".


It might not work well for semi-autos (Oversized Bullets , & chambering issues) ... ?

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Posted: 1/29/2012 10:13:01 AM
Believe me, I'm not one to question why hunters/loaders do much of anything as any reason is good enough. Kind of like adding a new gun to the arsenal. No good reason for it but what it hell...why not!

Do keep us informed on what you find out!

BTW what rifle/barrel/twist etc do you use and what prompted you to take on this project? What do you hope to achieve?
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Posted: 1/29/2012 1:01:51 PM
[Last Edit: 1/29/2012 10:42:11 PM by PAPI]
Hi.

Just for a clarification: There's really no sense in trying to improve " Expensive Match Ammo " or ammo that is extremely accurate in your partiicular Rifle.

However,... if you already have a particular " Match Ammo " ( Accurate ammo ) you could Modiify it for " HUNTING " ; i.e : Hollow Point / Flat Point .. ?

I intially started off tinkering with a " Paco Tool ", after reading an article a few years back. It lacked the fine tuning: Adjustments/ Length.

I also have a " Neal Waltz Tool ", which I really liked.. But, I somehow misplaced the two forming Rods.. I feel like a

I'm hoping to re-locate them ..?

I decided to order the " D Rock Tools ", as a replacement, & it has more " Forming Rod Options "..

Here's another informational link, comparing the Three Best known, Modification Tools.

Neal Waltz, Paco Kelly , D Rock:
http://rimfireshooting.com/index.php?showtopic=7185

I now own all three

My personal agenda : I was attempting to " Modify " ; Aguilas SSS 60 ( Shorten / Reform ) enough to reliably stabalize , using one of my standard 1-16 twist Barrels .

I also hope to achieve some measurable improvement in accuracy (?) , trying to stay under " Subsonic Velocity ".. ?

I'll trim the Bullets ( Aguilas SSS 60 Grn : -5 / -10 grns ) with the " SGB TOOL " ( File & Shorten ) , and then attempt to reform ( Swage ; Diam / Reform Tip ) the Bullet using the " D Rock Tool ".


TEST RIFLES : Rem 40X / Win 52D / Rem 540 XR / Rem 513T / Savage NRA 19 / H & R M12 / Martini 12-15 / Kimber 82G / Savage MK1 FVT.

I've been playing with this project, on and off, for over a year , as a casual Hobby
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_3/650920__22LR_for_coyotes_or_30_30_____updated_new_rifle__.html&page=2

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