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Posted: 1/27/2015 5:26:13 PM EDT
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I use a Ruger Deerfield for deer every once in a while. I really wish Ruger would bring those back. A handy little semi-auto carbine in .44 mag would make an awesome short range deer rifle. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 5:57:41 PM EDT
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44 mag lever gun. Easy to reload, cheap to shoot. Good power at your ranges. Winner. We live in a pretty populated area, I'd have no worries with my 16" Marlin 1894 carbine 44mag. In typical ARFCOM fashion, I bought it used for $200 and had $700 worth of work done to it. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 7:35:02 PM EDT
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I really wish Ruger would bring those back. A handy little semi-auto carbine in .44 mag would make an awesome short range deer rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I use a Ruger Deerfield for deer every once in a while. I really wish Ruger would bring those back. A handy little semi-auto carbine in .44 mag would make an awesome short range deer rifle. Yeah, but with a nice 30 round banana clip. 
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Posted: 1/28/2015 7:10:42 PM EDT
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444 Marlin...
in your choice of gun. my winchester big bore with a tritium XS bead is my go to woods gun. it will flat assed put them down. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 9:45:49 PM EDT
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.243 Rem 700
30-30 Win 94 or Marlin 336 .35 Marlin 336 45-70 guide gun 44 mag Marlin .223 AR. 7mm-08 30-06 270 Consider the NEF Handi rifles, barrels are fairy cheap, multiple caliber options for little $. I know single shots are not for everyone, but I think they are fun. Have or have had all the above, and would not second guess any of them. I will say with .223 and .243, proper bullet selection is important. Some will allow double duty for ground hogs, skunks, coyotes, deer, etc..... Some will allow bigger game options.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:25:41 AM EDT
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444 Marlin... in your choice of gun. my winchester big bore with a tritium XS bead is my go to woods gun. it will flat assed put them down. I had one and sold it during hard times.  I can vouch for it flat knocking 'em out. Regular old Remington soft point was great ammo. I once took two does out of a group of five with it. Put the queen bitch down and the rest didn't quite know what to do and just kind of ran around like chickens with their heads cut off until the second one went down.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 6:59:40 AM EDT
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The next gun I hunt deer with will be my new Browning BLR in .358 Win. Very strong, magazine-fed takedown lever gun in a seriously under-appreciated cartridge. http://www.chuckhawks.com/358Win_mystery.htm http://www.chuckhawks.com/browning_BLR_358.htm |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:56:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Winner. We live in a pretty populated area, I'd have no worries with my 16" Marlin 1894 carbine 44mag. In typical ARFCOM fashion, I bought it used for $200 and had $700 worth of work done to it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 44 mag lever gun. Easy to reload, cheap to shoot. Good power at your ranges. Winner. We live in a pretty populated area, I'd have no worries with my 16" Marlin 1894 carbine 44mag. In typical ARFCOM fashion, I bought it used for $200 and had $700 worth of work done to it. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 3:29:29 AM EDT
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AR in 5.56 16" is what I use and recommend. Of what you listed I would go 336. Use the hornady 160 grain leverution. Cabellas sells a decent scope thats ballistically matched to that round- 3-9x. This is the outfit I use. It turned my 336 from a 100 yard gun to a 300 yard gun. If you are swamp hunting bear/hogs either dial it down to 3x or remove the scope and go iron sights. |
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Posted: 2/4/2015 7:14:30 PM EDT
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A lighter 20-22" barreled .308 will be the most versatile of your choices, with maybe a 2-7 or 2.5-8x scope. If you really want a slower moving slug, load some 180 grain round nose (They are a popular choice up in the NW WI woods), or even some light loaded 170 grain 30-30 type flat nosed bullets.
I'd just load some 150's or 165/175 higher B/C pills and be better prepared for a longer shot that just might present itself. Especially since you mention a possible TX hog hunt is possible. They might be 15 yards or 300 yards.I like the 150 grain Barnes TSX to increase speed, plus assured penetration on tougher critters like hogs, but there are tons of great bullets/cartridges out there. |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 12:04:39 PM EDT
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Take a look at the Savage Hog Hunter 308. A lot of rifle for the money.
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Posted: 2/6/2015 2:23:34 PM EDT
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After reading all this talk of lever guns, I think I'll have to grab the 30/30 out of the safe and take it to the stand this afternoon. It has been quite a while since I have packed it to the stand.
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Posted: 2/9/2015 10:54:53 PM EDT
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I still like my 742 Woodsmaster Carbine in 30-06, for hunting thickets.
 I know, they we're notorious for jamming up, but I love mine! I haven't had any problems out of mine. It was a freebie, anyway.
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Posted: 2/9/2015 11:37:54 PM EDT
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I still like my 742 Woodsmaster Carbine in 30-06, for hunting thickets. I know, they we're notorious for jamming up, but I love mine! I haven't had any problems out of mine. It was a freebie, anyway.My uncle hunts with a 7400, I got my dad a 742 several years ago and threw an Eotech on it as a drive gun. It's killed dozens of deer and hogs, jammed once on a hog early on before I stripped it down and polished the chamber. Here it is with it's latest kill in the hands of my sis's father in law. 
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Posted: 2/11/2015 3:10:14 PM EDT
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The Remington 742 while known to have some issues has killed 100+ deer between my Grandfather (he has 2) and Dad these past x number of years. They bought theirs new and only had a broken firing pin in one...no other issues.
A friend of mine has one and it has issues...primarily stuck cases in the chamber (possible extractor issues I'm thinking). I'd be hesitant to buy a used one if I didn't know and trust the owner that it didn't have issues. Hoping one day I inherit one of the 2 my Grandfather has to keep it alive in the woods. |
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Posted: 2/11/2015 3:47:56 PM EDT
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The Remington 742 while known to have some issues has killed 100+ deer between my Grandfather (he has 2) and Dad these past x number of years. They bought theirs new and only had a broken firing pin in one...no other issues. A friend of mine has one and it has issues...primarily stuck cases in the chamber (possible extractor issues I'm thinking). I'd be hesitant to buy a used one if I didn't know and trust the owner that it didn't have issues. Hoping one day I inherit one of the 2 my Grandfather has to keep it alive in the woods. Ours had a fairly rough chamber, it would not even extract the case when it stuck and had to be driven out, factory Rem CorLokt. A little chamber polish and it's been good ever since. |
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Posted: 2/12/2015 11:30:36 PM EDT
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Nice trophy sapling! Lol!
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Posted: 2/12/2015 11:43:32 PM EDT
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There's a gun smith up in Michigan I believe, who works on 742's. He can do a conversion on a 742, and make it a 762 pump. He had a write up on his web page that said the reason 742's had problems extracting, was because when people cleaned them, they would just clean the barrel, and not the chamber. The chamber would have surface rust in it. When fired, and the case expanded the surface rust in the chamber wouldn't let the spent case eject. He said to make sure the chamber was good, and clean. Mine has only failed to eject a couple of times, and it was always when I was shooting Remington Core Loct ammo. I've never had an issue with Federal ammo. I'll be doing a good, thorough, cleaning on my 742
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Posted: 2/13/2015 10:51:42 AM EDT
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There's a gun smith up in Michigan I believe, who works on 742's. He can do a conversion on a 742, and make it a 762 pump. He had a write up on his web page that said the reason 742's had problems extracting, was because when people cleaned them, they would just clean the barrel, and not the chamber. The chamber would have surface rust in it. When fired, and the case expanded the surface rust in the chamber wouldn't let the spent case eject. He said to make sure the chamber was good, and clean. Mine has only failed to eject a couple of times, and it was always when I was shooting Remington Core Loct ammo. I've never had an issue with Federal ammo. I'll be doing a good, thorough, cleaning on my 742 Yeah, it's not like a bolt gun where you can just shove a chamber swab up in there from the rear. I slide the rod down the barrel, then thread the swab on and pull it back into the chamber and spin it a couple times. When it was fairly new, I just pulled the barrel and polished it from the rear. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 12:00:35 PM EDT
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Yeah, it's not like a bolt gun where you can just shove a chamber swab up in there from the rear. I slide the rod down the barrel, then thread the swab on and pull it back into the chamber and spin it a couple times. When it was fairly new, I just pulled the barrel and polished it from the rear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There's a gun smith up in Michigan I believe, who works on 742's. He can do a conversion on a 742, and make it a 762 pump. He had a write up on his web page that said the reason 742's had problems extracting, was because when people cleaned them, they would just clean the barrel, and not the chamber. The chamber would have surface rust in it. When fired, and the case expanded the surface rust in the chamber wouldn't let the spent case eject. He said to make sure the chamber was good, and clean. Mine has only failed to eject a couple of times, and it was always when I was shooting Remington Core Loct ammo. I've never had an issue with Federal ammo. I'll be doing a good, thorough, cleaning on my 742 Yeah, it's not like a bolt gun where you can just shove a chamber swab up in there from the rear. I slide the rod down the barrel, then thread the swab on and pull it back into the chamber and spin it a couple times. When it was fairly new, I just pulled the barrel and polished it from the rear. I bought my Remington 7400 in 30/06 back in the early 80's at Service Merchandise. It came with an offset wire chamber brush that I use religiously when cleaning the rifle. Never ever had an extraction issue. |
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Posted: 2/13/2015 12:10:58 PM EDT
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I bought my Remington 7400 in 30/06 back in the early 80's at Service Merchandise. It came with an offset wire chamber brush that I use religiously when cleaning the rifle. Never ever had an extraction issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There's a gun smith up in Michigan I believe, who works on 742's. He can do a conversion on a 742, and make it a 762 pump. He had a write up on his web page that said the reason 742's had problems extracting, was because when people cleaned them, they would just clean the barrel, and not the chamber. The chamber would have surface rust in it. When fired, and the case expanded the surface rust in the chamber wouldn't let the spent case eject. He said to make sure the chamber was good, and clean. Mine has only failed to eject a couple of times, and it was always when I was shooting Remington Core Loct ammo. I've never had an issue with Federal ammo. I'll be doing a good, thorough, cleaning on my 742 Yeah, it's not like a bolt gun where you can just shove a chamber swab up in there from the rear. I slide the rod down the barrel, then thread the swab on and pull it back into the chamber and spin it a couple times. When it was fairly new, I just pulled the barrel and polished it from the rear. I bought my Remington 7400 in 30/06 back in the early 80's at Service Merchandise. It came with an offset wire chamber brush that I use religiously when cleaning the rifle. Never ever had an extraction issue. I bought ours new back around 06, i didn't come with anything but a mag
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Posted: 2/14/2015 11:27:31 AM EDT
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Ours had a fairly rough chamber, it would not even extract the case when it stuck and had to be driven out, factory Rem CorLokt. A little chamber polish and it's been good ever since. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Remington 742 while known to have some issues has killed 100+ deer between my Grandfather (he has 2) and Dad these past x number of years. They bought theirs new and only had a broken firing pin in one...no other issues. A friend of mine has one and it has issues...primarily stuck cases in the chamber (possible extractor issues I'm thinking). I'd be hesitant to buy a used one if I didn't know and trust the owner that it didn't have issues. Hoping one day I inherit one of the 2 my Grandfather has to keep it alive in the woods. Ours had a fairly rough chamber, it would not even extract the case when it stuck and had to be driven out, factory Rem CorLokt. A little chamber polish and it's been good ever since. the chambers are the problem spot. I was told by a Gunsmith to scrub the hell out of the chamber after every hunting season. my 742 as been dead nuts reliable on hundreds of whitetails and vermin, with the exception of 1 time. it was a corroded chamber. |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 12:14:42 PM EDT
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I live in the Michigan Shotgun Zone. I think someone already mentioned it, but, you can now hunt in the shotgun zone with a centerfire rifle so long as the round is .35 or larger, case length between 1.2 and 1.8", and straight walled. A .44 lever gun will do the job and do it well, but think bigger and get a .450 Bushmaster or a .50 Beowulf. I just finished a .50 Beowulf that will replace my slug gun next year, possibly retire it. This should be the perfect deer gun inside of 150 yards. It will also wreak havoc on hogs should you get to go on that trip.
If you already live in the Rifle Zone, check out the .458 socom too, especially if you plan to roll your own ammo. Bullet selection is supposed to be outstanding. Many say it is the superior big bore, but it wouldn't have served my purpose. I can't use necked down cartridges where I'm at and I don't reload. |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 1:25:45 PM EDT
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I am in the same situation as you. Live in WI where I can hunt rifle, but the longest shot I can make is ~100yds. I also hunt downstate MI in the restricted zone.
Working on a .450 Bushmaster AR-15 for next year. I will use it in both states. It is also an excellent round for hogs. |
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Posted: 2/25/2015 7:59:09 PM EDT
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A good short range rifle would be the Winchester 94 in 30/30. Its light and easy to maneuver, the iron sights are quick to get a bead on (for short range they're probably better than a scope) and Hornady makes some Lever Revolution ammo that has higher velocity and more power.
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Posted: 2/27/2015 10:35:31 AM EDT
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As others have stated, a good 44 mag is an excellent choice for short range woods hunting. The round is a real sweetheart when fired from a carbine, low noise and recoil. I'm very thankful to have a Ruger Deerfield to hunt hogs and deer in the Southeast. What a handy little carbine it is. Since it is no longer available, I'd suggest the following to the OP:
Ruger 77/44 
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