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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:12:34 PM EDT
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I would do it.
Use the Winchester bullets. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:44:38 PM EDT
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You should be fine. Check state game laws though, verify the round has the velocity and energy required by law to harvest deer.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:46:57 PM EDT
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I know that a 15yd shot out of a M&P 45 full size with a 230gr Golden Sabre (non-bonded) will not pass through with a slight quarter away shot if it hits rib. Bullet was recovered in the first lung. Bullet over expanded and lost its core. Deer hunched, turned and hopped 10 yds and stood there with its head down, blood pouring out its mouth and nose for 30 seconds.
After that a second shot was taken to make sure it did not walk off. Second shot was the same angle and distance and placement, with the same no pass through. This time it dropped like it was hit by lightning. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:57:37 PM EDT
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It would be cool to recover the round
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:02:21 PM EDT
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I can't say for sure on .45 ACP, but I took a large doe on "doe day" from about 25 yds with a 10mm Colt Delta Elite 1911. Used a 180 gr Silvertip HP. In on right side, behind front leg, almost out the left front shoulder, bullet lodged just under the skin.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:43:31 PM EDT
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I have no doubt it would work, but I can't test my belief as it is illegal here.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:57:13 PM EDT
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I wouldn't think it would be too different that using a inline muzzleloader. Heck i shoot saboted .45 XTP bullets.
ETA: I was incorrect, muzzle energy is about half out of a handgun. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:58:39 PM EDT
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Works on hogs too
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Posted: 11/26/2014 5:39:04 AM EDT
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Hit em behind the shoulder and itll work fine. Skip the fmj.
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Posted: 11/26/2014 5:45:49 AM EDT
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I say go for it. If you can hit the sweet spot, that is.
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Posted: 11/26/2014 5:46:24 AM EDT
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It'll work, right up to the point where that buck takes your 1911 from you and beats you death with it. Ties you to the top of his rack, takes you to his taxidermist and has you mounted to HIS wall.
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Posted: 11/26/2014 5:48:12 AM EDT
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Not sure about "harvesting", but a .45 will definitely kill a deer if you can hit it in the right place.
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Posted: 11/26/2014 6:19:49 AM EDT
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If you do it, use a good JHP.
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Posted: 11/26/2014 6:58:25 AM EDT
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I carry it every where so next deer I see inside of 20yds is getting some lead.
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Posted: 11/26/2014 10:47:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I carry it every where so next deer I see inside of 20yds is getting some lead. |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 12:07:47 PM EDT
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What about 9mm. I know any bullet with proper placement can do it... Has anyone?
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Posted: 11/26/2014 2:50:31 PM EDT
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I carry it every where so next deer I see inside of 20yds is getting some lead. I'll post it up if i shoot one |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 2:51:32 PM EDT
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What about 9mm. I know any bullet with proper placement can do it... Has anyone? I swear I saw a post last year of a guy who zapped a doe with a 9mm posted in this forum |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 12:33:09 PM EDT
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I carry it every where so next deer I see inside of 20yds is getting some lead. wouldnt count on it. I'v put several rounds through MN whitetails out to 25 yards or so. all through and through |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 4:56:50 PM EDT
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I carry it every where so next deer I see inside of 20yds is getting some lead. Make sure to post pix of your deer and the recovered slug, pretty cool braggin' rights. I don't know anyone that's done it. |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 4:57:27 PM EDT
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I carry it every where so next deer I see inside of 20yds is getting some lead. wouldnt count on it. I'v put several rounds through MN whitetails out to 25 yards or so. all through and through Pistol rounds? |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 5:04:32 PM EDT
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I carry it every where so next deer I see inside of 20yds is getting some lead. wouldnt count on it. I'v put several rounds through MN whitetails out to 25 yards or so. all through and through Pistol rounds? Yup, 1911 operator. Winchester ranger T's |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 5:13:28 PM EDT
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Many state game laws now read ( minimum barrel length of at least 5" and a bullet .357 or larger
But if you listen to all the recent hoopla you are probably better off using 9mm ( I am attempting sarcasm here - don't use 9) |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 6:36:59 PM EDT
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I carry it every where so next deer I see inside of 20yds is getting some lead. wouldnt count on it. I'v put several rounds through MN whitetails out to 25 yards or so. all through and through Pistol rounds? Yup, 1911 operator. Winchester ranger T's Ok, I'm impressed. I'm eyeballin' my SA 1911 "Loaded" and thinking "Well, you lil buck-whacker, you, we're going to have to make some jerky". |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 7:30:16 PM EDT
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arfcom archive photos:
Couple other guys: 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 6:55:16 PM EDT
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Damn that muley doe looks fucked up
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Posted: 11/28/2014 7:18:39 PM EDT
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I have taken several does with both 9mm and 45 ACP always get full pass through a with hollow point carry ammo
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Posted: 11/29/2014 12:12:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2014 12:35:46 AM EDT
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Should I be good to go? I shot a doe with a 6.5" 357 magnum years ago. She ran away and I never found her. Hand guns just don't have the energy that rifles do, which makes shot placement a lot more important. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:38:25 AM EDT
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Head shots only. I shot a doe with a 6.5" 357 magnum years ago. She ran away and I never found her. Hand guns just don't have the energy that rifles do, which makes shot placement a lot more important. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should I be good to go? I shot a doe with a 6.5" 357 magnum years ago. She ran away and I never found her. Hand guns just don't have the energy that rifles do, which makes shot placement a lot more important. Iv seen deer hit with a 300 mag at under 100 yards run off never to be found. Shot placement always matters. Hit them in the vitals with a .45 out of a handgun with enough velocity to get to them andtthe deer dies. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 11:27:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Iv seen deer hit with a 300 mag at under 100 yards run off never to be found.
Shot placement always matters. Hit them in the vitals with a .45 out of a handgun with enough velocity to get to them andtthe deer dies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
Head shots only. I shot a doe with a 6.5" 357 magnum years ago. She ran away and I never found her. Hand guns just don't have the energy that rifles do, which makes shot placement a lot more important. Shot placement always matters. Hit them in the vitals with a .45 out of a handgun with enough velocity to get to them andtthe deer dies. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 11:50:48 PM EDT
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If shot placed was always good, then lots of us would be hunting with 22 WMR. With less bullet energy, more importance is placed on shot placement. Which is why I started my post with "Head shots only." I have shot white tails with 300 Win Mag and had them run off never to be seen, but it ain't many. With the 357, I had awesome shot placement because they were so close. But it wasn't enough. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Head shots only. I shot a doe with a 6.5" 357 magnum years ago. She ran away and I never found her. Hand guns just don't have the energy that rifles do, which makes shot placement a lot more important. Shot placement always matters. Hit them in the vitals with a .45 out of a handgun with enough velocity to get to them andtthe deer dies. You were either really unlucky or shot placement was not as good as you thought. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 11:58:54 PM EDT
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If shot placed was always good, then lots of us would be hunting with 22 WMR. With less bullet energy, more importance is placed on shot placement. Which is why I started my post with "Head shots only." I have shot white tails with 300 Win Mag and had them run off never to be seen, but it ain't many. With the 357, I had awesome shot placement because they were so close. But it wasn't enough. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Head shots only. I shot a doe with a 6.5" 357 magnum years ago. She ran away and I never found her. Hand guns just don't have the energy that rifles do, which makes shot placement a lot more important. Shot placement always matters. Hit them in the vitals with a .45 out of a handgun with enough velocity to get to them andtthe deer dies. How do you know what your shot placement was if the deer was uncovered? A .45 acp is more then enough for a vitals shot at under 50 yards. Head shots are not needed. |
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Posted: 12/1/2014 12:34:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/1/2014 10:25:19 PM EDT
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You were either really unlucky or shot placement was not as good as you thought. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How do you know what your shot placement was if the deer was uncovered? A .45 acp is more then enough for a vitals shot at under 50 yards. Head shots are not needed. "More than enough" is a matter of opinion, not fact. Rifles are rifles, and pistols are pistols. And just because it has been done before doesn't make it a good idea. |
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Posted: 12/1/2014 10:32:08 PM EDT
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She was 15 yards away. The pistol is a tack driver. I had good shot placement. I heard her bleating a few moments after the shot. With a rifle I get two holes for the deer to bleed from, making tracking a lot easier. With a pistol you're more likely (than a rifle) to get just one, making tracking harder. It didn't help that she ran into a thicket of briars. I'd have looked harder where it not for the briars. But after about 15 minutes, that's all I could take.15 yards away and I heard her bleating afterward. "More than enough" is a matter of opinion, not fact. Rifles are rifles, and pistols are pistols. And just because it has been done before doesn't make it a good idea. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How do you know what your shot placement was if the deer was uncovered? A .45 acp is more then enough for a vitals shot at under 50 yards. Head shots are not needed. "More than enough" is a matter of opinion, not fact. Rifles are rifles, and pistols are pistols. And just because it has been done before doesn't make it a good idea. So you missed the lungs anyway.... 
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Posted: 12/2/2014 2:50:09 PM EDT
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So you missed the lungs anyway.... 
The fact that she vocalized isn't proof that her lungs weren't damaged. Deer can still vocalize with a lung shot. Human beings can still carry on a conversation with dual sucking chest wounds. I've witnessed it many times. |
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Posted: 12/2/2014 3:48:00 PM EDT
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She was 15 yards away. The pistol is a tack driver. I had good shot placement. I heard her bleating a few moments after the shot. With a rifle I get two holes for the deer to bleed from, making tracking a lot easier. With a pistol you're more likely (than a rifle) to get just one, making tracking harder. It didn't help that she ran into a thicket of briars. I'd have looked harder where it not for the briars. But after about 15 minutes, that's all I could take.15 yards away and I heard her bleating afterward. "More than enough" is a matter of opinion, not fact. Rifles are rifles, and pistols are pistols. And just because it has been done before doesn't make it a good idea. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You were either really unlucky or shot placement was not as good as you thought. Quoted:
How do you know what your shot placement was if the deer was uncovered? A .45 acp is more then enough for a vitals shot at under 50 yards. Head shots are not needed. "More than enough" is a matter of opinion, not fact. Rifles are rifles, and pistols are pistols. And just because it has been done before doesn't make it a good idea. I don't see where there was any failure other than yours. |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 12:53:07 AM EDT
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I don't see where there was any failure other than yours. Shot'em with a rifle or make a head-shot. Otherwise you better be a good tracker. |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 6:22:24 PM EDT
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Ohio is now allowing deer hunting with straight walled pistol cartridge RIFLES.
.45 ACP is on the approved list.. but so is .38 Special. Not sure who put a list like that together? As for handguns, at least in Ohio, you can only hunt whitetails with a pistol that has a barrel longer than 5" and a caliber .357 or larger. Could you kill a deer with a .45 ACP from your Glock 21? Yes. Would it be illegal in Ohio? Yes. |
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Posted: 12/4/2014 9:50:56 AM EDT
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I wouldn't be surprised by the vastness of things you don't see. Shot'em with a rifle or make a head-shot. Otherwise you better be a good tracker. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't see where there was any failure other than yours. Shot'em with a rifle or make a head-shot. Otherwise you better be a good tracker. They run many times when shot with a rifle. |
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Posted: 12/4/2014 10:18:58 AM EDT
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I don't see where there was any failure other than yours. Shot'em with a rifle or make a head-shot. Otherwise you better be a good tracker. They run many times when shot with a rifle. They almost always run when shot with my bow (unless i take a spine shot). Tracking is just part of being a good and ethical hunter. I don't see any issues with using a 45acp as long as it's legal in your area. Also, if it does run, don't pursue right away. Let it bleed out and die. This is all part of it. |
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Posted: 12/4/2014 8:45:08 PM EDT
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She was 15 yards away. The pistol is a tack driver. I had good shot placement. I heard her bleating a few moments after the shot. With a rifle I get two holes for the deer to bleed from, making tracking a lot easier. With a pistol you're more likely (than a rifle) to get just one, making tracking harder. It didn't help that she ran into a thicket of briars. I'd have looked harder where it not for the briars. But after about 15 minutes, that's all I could take.15 yards away and I heard her bleating afterward. "More than enough" is a matter of opinion, not fact. Rifles are rifles, and pistols are pistols. And just because it has been done before doesn't make it a good idea. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How do you know what your shot placement was if the deer was uncovered? A .45 acp is more then enough for a vitals shot at under 50 yards. Head shots are not needed. "More than enough" is a matter of opinion, not fact. Rifles are rifles, and pistols are pistols. And just because it has been done before doesn't make it a good idea. Maybe I'm missing something, but you looked for 15 minutes and gave up? She ran away and you never found her is right. You stopped looking! If you put a round into her chest, I would bet she was dead before you even stopped looking. |
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Posted: 12/9/2014 10:29:38 AM EDT
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I am in the first two pictures on the previous page. I have killed two deer with a 1911 in .45 ACP, and both were recovered easily. The one in the photos dropped where she stood. The other ran about 100 yards with shot out heart and lungs. The bullet in questions was a Hornady 185 XTP. In both cases it mushroomed and passes all the way through the body, and was caught by the skin on the other side. I was worried if .45 was enough cartridge to do the job, but it did so splendidly.
Dad tried it after I proved to him you could do it and he had similar results. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 2:18:26 AM EDT
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