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Posted: 10/8/2014 1:27:08 PM EDT
I know it can be done and has been done quite a bit with different results.  Myself however, have not used the 300 Black Out on deer yet.  Now I have killed a few nice size hogs with my 300 Black Out using the Remington Hog Hammer Ammo.  It has performed flawless on three hogs I have killed.  One was a 200 pound bruiser.  I am thinking of dropping down to 110 grain Barnes Vor-Tx on deer.  Any one have any experience with this choice of bullet weight.
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 2:23:55 PM EDT
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I've killed two at around 50 - 75 yards with a 8.5" barreled SBR and Barnes 110 VOR-TX.  Both were high shoulder shots.  One dropped in it's tracks and the other made it about 15 yards.  Complete pass through with good sized exit hole.
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 2:50:29 PM EDT
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I would go with the 110gr VorTx for thinner skinned deer, I picked up a few boxes of it at Academy the other day.
Reading up, the Hog Hammer doesn't expand reliably out of the shorter barrels or at longer distances.
I'll be doing some hunting with my 8" suppressed Blackout this year as well.
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 3:04:48 PM EDT
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Since I have a 6.8 already, I would tend to gravitate towards 150 grain bullets.  Plus, I have a ton of 150 gr Ballistic tip that I already load for .308
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 3:20:49 PM EDT
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But what ~150gr .308 bullets will expand reliably at the slower .300blk velocities?
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 4:16:16 PM EDT
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Good question.  I am just starting to reload for 300blk so perhaps I am just making a few assumptions
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 9:30:51 PM EDT
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Since I have a 6.8 already, I would tend to gravitate towards 150 grain bullets.  Plus, I have a ton of 150 gr Ballistic tip that I already load for .308


But what ~150gr .308 bullets will expand reliably at the slower .300blk velocities?


150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips should reliably expand down to 1800 fps according to their web site.  My current load with that bullet averages 2005 fps @ 5 feet from the end of the can.  That should put me at or above 1800 fps out to 200 yards according to the online ballistics calculators.

Hopefully, I will get a chance to see how well they work!
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 9:32:51 PM EDT
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Some good discussion in a similar thread a few weeks ago.  Personally I like the Nosler 125gr BT.  Expansion down to 1800FPS.  I'm sure the 110 Ballistic Tips would do well too.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_23/676868__300_BLK_for_deer__what_bullet_weight_is_best_.html
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 9:34:50 PM EDT
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150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips should reliably expand down to 1800 fps according to their web site.  My current load with that bullet averages 2005 fps @ 5 feet from the end of the can.  That should put me at or above 1800 fps out to 200 yards according to the online ballistics calculators.

Hopefully, I will get a chance to see how well they work!
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Since I have a 6.8 already, I would tend to gravitate towards 150 grain bullets.  Plus, I have a ton of 150 gr Ballistic tip that I already load for .308


But what ~150gr .308 bullets will expand reliably at the slower .300blk velocities?


150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips should reliably expand down to 1800 fps according to their web site.  My current load with that bullet averages 2005 fps @ 5 feet from the end of the can.  That should put me at or above 1800 fps out to 200 yards according to the online ballistics calculators.

Hopefully, I will get a chance to see how well they work!


According to the load data I've seen, the Nosler 150gr BST drops about 200fps in the first 100yd.  Not saying it won't expand past that.

And the 110gr TSX expands down to 1300fps

Link Posted: 10/8/2014 9:54:12 PM EDT
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According to the load data I've seen, the Nosler 150gr BST drops about 200fps in the first 100yd.  Not saying it won't expand past that.

And the 110gr TSX expands down to 1300fps

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/alt1/430/300_aac_tac_tx.jpg
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Since I have a 6.8 already, I would tend to gravitate towards 150 grain bullets.  Plus, I have a ton of 150 gr Ballistic tip that I already load for .308


But what ~150gr .308 bullets will expand reliably at the slower .300blk velocities?


150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips should reliably expand down to 1800 fps according to their web site.  My current load with that bullet averages 2005 fps @ 5 feet from the end of the can.  That should put me at or above 1800 fps out to 200 yards according to the online ballistics calculators.

Hopefully, I will get a chance to see how well they work!


According to the load data I've seen, the Nosler 150gr BST drops about 200fps in the first 100yd.  Not saying it won't expand past that.

And the 110gr TSX expands down to 1300fps

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/alt1/430/300_aac_tac_tx.jpg


What program are you using to run the numbers?

Edited to add:  I stand corrected!  According to Here... and using a BC of .435...

It looks like the 1800 fps threshold happens around 120 yards.  I suspect I was using a different BC value when I ran the number previously. Thanks for speaking up!!
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 10:36:08 PM EDT
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you need to think slow and heavy deep hollow point thin jacket or hollow point cast
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 9:42:27 AM EDT
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Most various pointed .308 dia bullets in the 150+ range are going to be designed to be loaded in .308 Win, .30-06, .300 Win Mag, etc and so they are going to be tougher to hold up to those impact speeds.  At .300 AAC velocities these are going to be inconsistent expanders...

The THompson Center Contender crowd spent decades firing .30 cal bullets out of shorter barrels, dealing with lower velocities.  They used cartridges like .30 Herret, .30-30 Win (Contender), .300 Whisper, etc.  There is decades of experience with this issue.  Look for .300 whisper data and reviews -  its near identical to your .300 aac.   You can also look for information on reloading .308" dia bullets in 7.62x39 soviet.  Again, same speeds, same diameter.  What works in a Ruger mini-30 will work in your aac.

The go to bullet for decades has been the 125 nosler ballistic tip.  This is a varmit bullet at .30-06 speeds.  However, at .300 AAC velocities, it opens well without being overly explosive.  It is a proven killer in the these various handgun chamberings, almost all of which shoot at speeds nearly identical to your AAC.

The 150 ballistic tip will be on the threshold of not expanding at 100 yards.... Take a shot that 130 yards, or shoot on a cold day with a temp  sensitive powder and get a muzzle velocity that's 40 fps slower, and all of a sudden you have a non-expander.

For newer bullets the TTSX 130 seems to be working well.

If you want a heavy bullet, you need one designed to expand at slower speeds.   We have a ton of these:  They are the 150 FP bullets for the .30-30.  They will work wonderfully, provided they feed in your AR.  

American Rifleman  did an article on loading for the .300 Whisper.  Since the .300 AAC is nothing more than a glorified Whisper (minor changes to keep JD Jones off AAC's back) anything working in whisper will work in AAC.

Fro
Link Posted: 10/10/2014 5:57:00 PM EDT
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220 bthp subsonic this morning at 100 yards. Clean through both lungs and smoked the far shoulder. I'll post a thread with the pictures with a warming so liberal sissies don't get upset.
Link Posted: 10/11/2014 9:34:44 AM EDT
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I think any will work fine as long as you wait on a good broadside shot where you can punch both lungs and keep your shots 100yds or less. I've seen deer killed with no expantion and only run 25 yds and collapse. I've seen them run as far or further with their side blown apart with supper duper high velocity magnums. It's all shot placement, hole in both lungs = dead deer, don't care how big he is.
Link Posted: 10/11/2014 9:52:51 AM EDT
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The Barnes 110gr Vor-Tx is not the only round you can use, but I think it's the best for hunting. The key is penetration and expansion. The Vor-Tx does both very well. Barnes Bullets has a special going on, buy 2 boxes and get one free. Check out the Barnes website for info.
Link Posted: 10/14/2014 12:14:13 PM EDT
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I'm looking at getting a .300 Blackout handi rifle if Florida widens it's use of suppressors for hunting and plan on making it my hog rifle. I have heard people say that .300 blackout subsonic loads are closer to handgun rounds than rifle rounds, but personally I don't know and may stick to the supersonic rounds for hunting. I've seen posts on here of people successfully hunting with the 300, so it's furthered reinforced my want effect.
Link Posted: 11/3/2014 10:46:45 AM EDT
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On private land in Florida you can use a suppressor on hogs since they are not considered game animals. You can also use it on Coyotes and other non game species
Link Posted: 11/3/2014 11:07:44 AM EDT
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I use both my 8.5" SBR and my 16".  Run Barnes Vor-TX 110gr in both.  No issues, never lost a deer.
Link Posted: 11/8/2014 12:22:52 AM EDT
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I have a 10.5 inch 300 and I plan to take it out next season. This is the ammo I am probably going to use

http://www.lehighdefense.com/index.php/shop/ammunition/controlled-chaos/102/300-whisper-high-velocity-controlled-chaos-detail
Link Posted: 11/9/2014 10:05:56 AM EDT
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Just dropped 3 hogs with my 8" .300 yesterday,  120, 150 and 200 lb, all DRT with hardly a flop.  Between 50 and 100yd.  I'm sold on the 110g TSX for inside 200yd.
Link Posted: 11/9/2014 11:42:53 AM EDT
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I'm looking at getting a .300 Blackout handi rifle if Florida widens it's use of suppressors for hunting and plan on making it my hog rifle. I have heard people say that .300 blackout subsonic loads are closer to handgun rounds than rifle rounds, but personally I don't know and may stick to the supersonic rounds for hunting. I've seen posts on here of people successfully hunting with the 300, so it's furthered reinforced my want effect.
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Ruger is going to chamber the American Ranch Rifle in 300 BLK, and it should be about the same price ($350) as the AAC Handi Rifle.

http://www.ruger.com/products/americanRifleRanch/models.html

Link Posted: 11/10/2014 6:45:10 PM EDT
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From Saturday, neither took a single step.



Link Posted: 11/10/2014 7:29:03 PM EDT
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Good work!  Range, and did you get complete pass through?
Link Posted: 11/10/2014 8:16:40 PM EDT
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Good work!  Range, and did you get complete pass through?
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About 75yd for each of them, I was on the ground for the first one and in a tree for the second.
Pass-through on both.

Shot another little one at about 100yd right before dark, running, hit a little far back, it ran about 50ft and flopped.

ETA: 110gr Barnes VorTx
Link Posted: 11/11/2014 6:52:49 PM EDT
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My 16" balckout killed 3 deer last season, 2 DRT and one ran about 20 yards and ran straight into a tree.

I am using 125Gr Hornady sst.

I also have some 125gr nosler BT but have not had a chance to shoot anything with them yet.
Link Posted: 11/22/2014 1:12:36 PM EDT
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This button buck (thought it was a doe when I shot it) confirms the 300BLK is viable for deer hunting.  125gr Nosler BT went through and through, destroying the liver in the process.  The shot was back farther than I wanted it to be, so it ran about 30 yds, hit a tree, fell over and died.  Its my 2nd deer with the 300BLK and that ammunition.
Link Posted: 11/22/2014 2:45:19 PM EDT
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The 110 gr vor-tx worked on this one.  Double lung, passed through.



He was about 70 yds, ran about 30 yds.

Link Posted: 11/22/2014 10:50:22 PM EDT
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The 110 gr vor-tx worked on this one.  Double lung, passed through.

http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af229/PIDDLERPICS/shooting-hunting/1111140940_zps197a804a.jpg

He was about 70 yds, ran about 30 yds.

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Nice work!
Link Posted: 11/23/2014 9:37:13 PM EDT
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The 110 gr vor-tx worked on this one.  Double lung, passed through.

http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af229/PIDDLERPICS/shooting-hunting/1111140940_zps197a804a.jpg

He was about 70 yds, ran about 30 yds.

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That's a nice buck!
Link Posted: 11/24/2014 9:36:47 PM EDT
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Took a doe on opening day with the Remington 130gr hog hammer.  I did everything I needed it to do.  Love this caliber and round.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 1:07:59 PM EDT
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To clarify the Barnes bullet for 300BLK is not the TSX it is the TAC-TX. The correct bullet is the black tip not the blue tip. Use whatever, but the TAC-TX is optimized down to 1300-1350fps.
Link Posted: 11/29/2014 12:56:08 AM EDT
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300blk barnes vor-tx put them in the dirt.

quartering shot at 30yrds alittle further back than I wanted but she made it 30yds and piled uo. 3rd deer ive taken with it.
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