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Posted: 7/1/2014 2:57:16 PM EDT
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55gr v-max and shot placement makes a good combo....
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Posted: 7/1/2014 3:04:03 PM EDT
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64gr Winchester PowerPoints
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Posted: 7/1/2014 3:05:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/1/2014 3:06:26 PM EDT
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barnes tsx
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Posted: 7/1/2014 3:30:53 PM EDT
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Barnes TSX 62gr or 70gr
Remington Hog Hammer 62gr Federal Fusion 62gr |
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Posted: 7/1/2014 4:20:10 PM EDT
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55gr v-max and shot placement makes a good combo.... For groundhogs or coyotes. |
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Posted: 7/1/2014 4:22:03 PM EDT
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Reco a bigger round...
Unless you are a expert marksman. Have a heart for bambi and get a 308 or 30 06 
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Posted: 7/1/2014 4:28:29 PM EDT
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can post pics of dear(3) that ran les than 20 feet..... not saying its the best my load not yours just a recommendation.....
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Posted: 7/1/2014 4:37:25 PM EDT
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i want to use my new rifle for some fall deer hunting. i know the importance of shot placement. i can do my part with accuracy and shot placement. what i want to find out is which bullets, velocities, etc. will get the wound ballistics i'll need for lethal, clean kills for various yardages. deer hunting information for those who know IS different than human target defensive ammo (unless sometime you need to track someone after you shoot them....) i know that under close in conditions 0-100yards probably any bullet with a neck or spinal shot will get the job done. I want to know how to evaluate lung/heart shots from this caliber platform. any real life experiences will be greatly appreciated. also brands, sizes, etc of ammunition suppliers. thanks! Everything you want to know has been discussed since 2009 in this thread which is conveniently tacked at the top of this forum... http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_23/626832_223__Deer_Hunting_Rounds.html |
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Posted: 7/2/2014 5:57:56 AM EDT
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I handload all my hunting ammo but through trial and error I can tell you what works.
I have had better luck with the 55-64 gr bullets in particular Sierra's 55gr BTHP and 63gr SP, both of these bullets are commercially loaded as well. Fed offers the 55gr load and Silver State Armory the 63gr load. The 63 gr bullet works well for the older 1/12 twist barrels, worked great in my old Colt, loaded at 2900 fps it was accurate and lethal on deer. I've had good kills with this round up to 160 yds I load the 55gr to near M193 velocity, as is the Fed load, and all deer shot have gone down in their tracks or only gone a few yards. Longest kill was 230ish yds on a large doe, double lung shot DRT. Example A: 110yds quartering shot through right shoulder.  " />
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Posted: 7/2/2014 9:21:17 AM EDT
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Barnes
Sierra Swift All will do the job. |
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Posted: 7/2/2014 9:39:07 AM EDT
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64gr Winchester PowerPoints +1 |
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Posted: 7/2/2014 9:50:18 AM EDT
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Reco a bigger round... Unless you are a expert marksman. Have a heart for bambi and get a 308 or 30 06 ^^Typical fudd answer 5.56/.223 is more than enough for deer, if you even half ass know how to aim/shoot. I would suggest Barnes 55-62grn TSX, or the Hornady 75gr or Sierra 77gr BTHP are also quite effective. I have used all four types on deer/hogs here in GA.... I would love to have some Win 64 PPs, but those sum beaches are never in stock when I buy my reloading components. |
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Posted: 7/2/2014 10:54:40 AM EDT
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55gr v-max and shot placement makes a good combo.... For groundhogs or coyotes. +1 Eric! I think it's a total dick move to use a fucking varmint bullet on a deer! |
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Posted: 7/2/2014 4:52:47 PM EDT
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+1 Eric! I think it's a total dick move to use a fucking varmint bullet on a deer! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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55gr v-max and shot placement makes a good combo.... For groundhogs or coyotes. +1 Eric! I think it's a total dick move to use a fucking varmint bullet on a deer! 6.8 SPC, 90gr TNT, shoot does in the neck. Instakill/drop shots 32 times out of 32 times I have pulled the trigger on them.... |
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Posted: 7/2/2014 5:28:15 PM EDT
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6.8 SPC, 90gr TNT, shoot does in the neck. Instakill/drop shots 32 times out of 32 times I have pulled the trigger on them.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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55gr v-max and shot placement makes a good combo.... For groundhogs or coyotes. +1 Eric! I think it's a total dick move to use a fucking varmint bullet on a deer! 6.8 SPC, 90gr TNT, shoot does in the neck. Instakill/drop shots 32 times out of 32 times I have pulled the trigger on them.... Oh, OK. So because you killed the deer it makes it better, right? Cause I can run out, and poison a deer, and kill it too. But just because I killed the deer doesn't make it right, does it? |
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Posted: 7/2/2014 5:53:18 PM EDT
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62 grain silver bear soft point-
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Posted: 7/2/2014 6:15:04 PM EDT
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+1 Eric! I think it's a total dick move to use a fucking varmint bullet on a deer! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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55gr v-max and shot placement makes a good combo.... For groundhogs or coyotes. +1 Eric! I think it's a total dick move to use a fucking varmint bullet on a deer! Drops them like a sack of potatoes. To each his own. |
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Posted: 7/2/2014 6:15:53 PM EDT
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I vote for a Barnes TSX bullet.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 6:21:11 PM EDT
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after having shot scores of deer with 223 I have 2 favorites #1 Hornady 75 gr OTM and #2 70 gr TSX
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Posted: 7/2/2014 7:40:33 PM EDT
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55gr v-max and shot placement makes a good combo.... For groundhogs or coyotes. +1 Eric! I think it's a total dick move to use a fucking varmint bullet on a deer! Drops them like a sack of potatoes. To each his own. I'm sure it does. It's just a personal pet peeve I guess. I don't mean any offense to anyone, BTW. I really don't have to much room to talk. Cause when I first started hunting deer with .223 a decade ago. I used exclusively 75gn Honady Match ammo. Not much better than a varmint round. |
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Posted: 7/3/2014 4:48:15 AM EDT
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Oh, OK. So because you killed the deer it makes it better, right? Cause I can run out, and poison a deer, and kill it too. But just because I killed the deer doesn't make it right, does it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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55gr v-max and shot placement makes a good combo.... For groundhogs or coyotes. +1 Eric! I think it's a total dick move to use a fucking varmint bullet on a deer! 6.8 SPC, 90gr TNT, shoot does in the neck. Instakill/drop shots 32 times out of 32 times I have pulled the trigger on them.... Oh, OK. So because you killed the deer it makes it better, right? Cause I can run out, and poison a deer, and kill it too. But just because I killed the deer doesn't make it right, does it? I will revise my post since you manned up and apologized for it being a pet peeve of yours in the post above this one. I would agree that using .224 caliber varmint bullets is probably not a good idea at all, but larger caliber varmint bullets do work well IF THE SHOOTER KNOWS WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE DOING! There are plenty of morons running around with .300 WinMag/.30-06 and the like shooting dear and not killing them cleanly either, so it's obviously not a bullet selection problem, but rather a shot placement problem. |
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Posted: 7/3/2014 5:28:04 AM EDT
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I have only killed one with my ar so far. 169 yard double lung shot with Remington core lock did the job nicely.
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Posted: 7/3/2014 5:58:46 AM EDT
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I'm no expert on hunting deer with an AR, but I have shot some with 7.62. I know they are "hardy" wild animals, but I wouldn't call it inhumane to shoot one with an AR. After all, it is being used to kill humans, my logic could be a little flawed, but I think it is more than capable of doing the job with a heavier bullet and correct shot placement.
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Posted: 7/5/2014 6:05:04 AM EDT
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62gr federal fusion
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Posted: 7/7/2014 9:56:05 AM EDT
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I dropped a spike that dressed 85lbs with a 223 Remingon 62gr corelokt bonded at about 40yds.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 5:07:45 AM EDT
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nice buck where(on body) did you shoot it?
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Posted: 7/12/2014 6:05:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reco a bigger round... Unless you are a expert marksman. Have a heart for bambi and get a 308 or 30 06 Plenty of deer have been killed with < .30 cal. .223, .243, .257, .270, .25 |
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Posted: 7/12/2014 9:46:13 AM EDT
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Barnes TSX 62 grain FTW
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Posted: 7/13/2014 7:58:30 AM EDT
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Barnes TSX 62 grain FTW The 55 work just as well 200 yards an in.... |
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Posted: 7/13/2014 10:20:03 AM EDT
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The 55 work just as well 200 yards an in.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Barnes TSX 62 grain FTW The 55 work just as well 200 yards an in.... I like the bullet to exit, I recovered too many 55 grners |
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Posted: 7/13/2014 12:49:20 PM EDT
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I will add to the pile of other answers that say please use a larger caliber for deer. You are incapable of guaranteeing you can "do [your] part with accuracy and shot placement." Stuff happens. As a hunter you are responsible for ensuring a clean, humane kill. Choosing a .223 is hedging your bet on the skinny side of firepower.
That being said, any commercial .223 pushing a Barnes TSX would be my recommendation based on weight retention. Here's what the Remington Hog Hammer will do: http://instagram.com/p/oRvhP1htEF/?modal=true |
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Posted: 7/13/2014 1:21:31 PM EDT
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I will add to the pile of other answers that say please use a larger caliber for deer. You are incapable of guaranteeing you can "do [your] part with accuracy and shot placement." Stuff happens. As a hunter you are responsible for ensuring a clean, humane kill. Choosing a .223 is hedging your bet on the skinny side of firepower. That being said, any commercial .223 pushing a Barnes TSX would be my recommendation based on weight retention. Here's what the Remington Hog Hammer will do: http://instagram.com/p/oRvhP1htEF/?modal=true 223 is fine for deer with the correct bullet. A shot in the guts with a 338 Ultra mag is not anymore likely to give you a kill |
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Posted: 7/13/2014 1:34:28 PM EDT
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223 is fine for deer with the correct bullet. A shot in the guts with a 338 Ultra mag is not anymore likely to give you a kill Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will add to the pile of other answers that say please use a larger caliber for deer. You are incapable of guaranteeing you can "do [your] part with accuracy and shot placement." Stuff happens. As a hunter you are responsible for ensuring a clean, humane kill. Choosing a .223 is hedging your bet on the skinny side of firepower. That being said, any commercial .223 pushing a Barnes TSX would be my recommendation based on weight retention. Here's what the Remington Hog Hammer will do: http://instagram.com/p/oRvhP1htEF/?modal=true 223 is fine for deer with the correct bullet. A shot in the guts with a 338 Ultra mag is not anymore likely to give you a kill +1 |
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Posted: 7/13/2014 6:49:13 PM EDT
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223 is fine for deer with the correct bullet. A shot in the guts with a 338 Ultra mag is not anymore likely to give you a kill Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will add to the pile of other answers that say please use a larger caliber for deer. You are incapable of guaranteeing you can "do [your] part with accuracy and shot placement." Stuff happens. As a hunter you are responsible for ensuring a clean, humane kill. Choosing a .223 is hedging your bet on the skinny side of firepower. That being said, any commercial .223 pushing a Barnes TSX would be my recommendation based on weight retention. Here's what the Remington Hog Hammer will do: http://instagram.com/p/oRvhP1htEF/?modal=true 223 is fine for deer with the correct bullet. A shot in the guts with a 338 Ultra mag is not anymore likely to give you a kill Well said! |
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Posted: 7/19/2014 2:58:49 PM EDT
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Many folks prefer Barnes TSX 62gr bullet. Remington now loads the .223 Hog Hammer round with this Barnes TSX 62gr bullet. I bought a box at walmart. Makes buying hunting ammo easy.
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Posted: 7/23/2014 12:03:29 PM EDT
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Many folks prefer Barnes TSX 62gr bullet. Remington now loads the .223 Hog Hammer round with this Barnes TSX 62gr bullet. I bought a box at walmart. Makes buying hunting ammo easy. Do that load it as hot as Black Hills loads their 62gr Barnes? |
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