ARCHIVED
 DPeacher
WSBPTKT
Team Member
Joined: Nov 2000  TX, USA
 
 Posts: 16895 Feedback: 100% (5) Link To This Post |
Posted: 6/17/2012 5:25:31 PM
Originally Posted By oulufinn:
Also, Marlin lever is side eject. Much easier to mount a scope, if you want to run glass. The older models don't have the retarded crossbolt safety cockblocking you at the worst possible moment! The Marlin crossbolt safety issue is easy to remedy. http://www.leverguns.com/articles/taylor/crossbolt_safety.htm |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/17/2012 6:53:39 PM
[Last Edit: 6/17/2012 6:57:51 PM by KingAirDriver]
Funny you guys mention that safety! I have never heard of it until now and just found a rifle with one.
We just got back from Cabelas. The new gun counter was swamped, so I didn't even try to get over there. I did, however, check out several long guns in the used racks. I found a Marlin lever action in .308 that was in great shape. It was today that I saw that safety for the first time. I thought it was a very weird spot to have a safety. I couldn't see a year of manufacture and didn't have a pen to write the S/N down to research, but sounds like it's probably a late model since it has that safety?
Got to feel up a handful of Savage and Remington rifles. I don't really have a favorite at the moment, but they felt really nice. Having no bolt action experience it was nice to operate the action a bit. Picked up a Vanguard somethin-or-other. Haven't heard of them? Didn't really care for it from first impressions, but again, I'm unedukatid.
ETA: Looked it up. It was a Marlin 308MX.
|
|
|
|
oulufinn
Member
Team Member
Joined: Nov 2002 TX, USA
Posts: 5850 Feedback: 100% (3) Link To This Post |
Posted: 6/17/2012 7:00:41 PM
Originally Posted By DPeacher: Originally Posted By oulufinn: Also, Marlin lever is side eject. Much easier to mount a scope, if you want to run glass. The older models don't have the retarded crossbolt safety cockblocking you at the worst possible moment! The Marlin crossbolt safety issue is easy to remedy. http://www.leverguns.com/articles/taylor/crossbolt_safety.htm I had heard of a kit to replace that safety. Good of the guy to come up with that fix. |
|
|
oulufinn
Member
Team Member
Joined: Nov 2002 TX, USA
Posts: 5851 Feedback: 100% (3) Link To This Post |
Posted: 6/17/2012 7:10:36 PM
Originally Posted By KingAirDriver: Funny you guys mention that safety! I have never heard of it until now and just found a rifle with one. We just got back from Cabelas. The new gun counter was swamped, so I didn't even try to get over there. I did, however, check out several long guns in the used racks. I found a Marlin lever action in .308 that was in great shape. It was today that I saw that safety for the first time. I thought it was a very weird spot to have a safety. I couldn't see a year of manufacture and didn't have a pen to write the S/N down to research, but sounds like it's probably a late model since it has that safety?
Got to feel up a handful of Savage and Remington rifles. I don't really have a favorite at the moment, but they felt really nice. Having no bolt action experience it was nice to operate the action a bit. Picked up a Vanguard somethin-or-other. Haven't heard of them? Didn't really care for it from first impressions, but again, I'm unedukatid.
ETA: Looked it up. It was a Marlin 308MX. That .308 MX is another oddball cartridge that will likely not be around for very long, or at least unpopular enough to have trouble finding components for, eventually. Like the 30TC, most WSSMs and some others that just are not going to make it, long term. They claim .308 Winchester ballistics. Doubtful & why not just get a a .308 Winchester with all of it's advantages of being established, available forever, everywhere.
Weatherby Vanguards are pretty solid rifles, IMO. Keep on handling more rifles & asking questions. You will find the right setup, but taking your time is a good thing! |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/17/2012 8:51:15 PM
OMG... the caliber is .308MX? I've never even heard of that, lol. I am so out of my league here!
 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/17/2012 11:54:15 PM
Originally Posted By KingAirDriver:
Funny you guys mention that safety! I have never heard of it until now and just found a rifle with one. We just got back from Cabelas. The new gun counter was swamped, so I didn't even try to get over there. I did, however, check out several long guns in the used racks. I found a Marlin lever action in .308 that was in great shape. It was today that I saw that safety for the first time. I thought it was a very weird spot to have a safety. I couldn't see a year of manufacture and didn't have a pen to write the S/N down to research, but sounds like it's probably a late model since it has that safety? Got to feel up a handful of Savage and Remington rifles. I don't really have a favorite at the moment, but they felt really nice. Having no bolt action experience it was nice to operate the action a bit. Picked up a Vanguard somethin-or-other. Haven't heard of them? Didn't really care for it from first impressions, but again, I'm unedukatid. ETA: Looked it up. It was a Marlin 308MX. The good Marlins were made in Connecticut, the new ones are made in Illinois. They should be marked on the barrel as to where they were manufactured. To get a pre-safety Marlin you'll probably have to go back to the early 90's or late 80's. The Weatherby Vanguard was probably a Howa in a Weatherby style stock (wide forearm, "humpbacked" butt stock.) If it said made in Japan, it's a Howa. Several companies have been importing them for a couple of decades. The Smith and Wesson 1500 is a Howa, as is the Mossberg 1500. I think Interarms might have brought them into the country for a short time as well... The Savages with the Accutrigger can really have a sweet trigger pull, and the button rifled barrels they put on them are accurate. I've just never cared for the way their actions felt. If I were to buy one it would be one of those gorgeous Savage 114 American models  . Or an old Savage '99 lever action.
A couple of other rifles that you may come across are the CZ bolt actions, which have a great mauser style action and usually a single set trigger. The only real draw back to them is they require CZ rings to go on the bases they have milled into the receiver. Also the TC Encore if you're not afraid of a single shot rifle. Pretty versatile rifle since you can buy barrels for it in almost any caliber you want, and swap them in about a minute. Can you tell I've handled a lot of hunting rifles? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/18/2012 7:40:28 AM
Originally Posted By Chacal87: Originally Posted By KingAirDriver: Funny you guys mention that safety! I have never heard of it until now and just found a rifle with one. We just got back from Cabelas. The new gun counter was swamped, so I didn't even try to get over there. I did, however, check out several long guns in the used racks. I found a Marlin lever action in .308 that was in great shape. It was today that I saw that safety for the first time. I thought it was a very weird spot to have a safety. I couldn't see a year of manufacture and didn't have a pen to write the S/N down to research, but sounds like it's probably a late model since it has that safety?
Got to feel up a handful of Savage and Remington rifles. I don't really have a favorite at the moment, but they felt really nice. Having no bolt action experience it was nice to operate the action a bit. Picked up a Vanguard somethin-or-other. Haven't heard of them? Didn't really care for it from first impressions, but again, I'm unedukatid.
ETA: Looked it up. It was a Marlin 308MX. The good Marlins were made in Connecticut, the new ones are made in Illinois. They should be marked on the barrel as to where they were manufactured. To get a pre-safety Marlin you'll probably have to go back to the early 90's or late 80's. The Weatherby Vanguard was probably a Howa in a Weatherby style stock (wide forearm, "humpbacked" butt stock.) If it said made in Japan, it's a Howa. Several companies have been importing them for a couple of decades. The Smith and Wesson 1500 is a Howa, as is the Mossberg 1500. I think Interarms might have brought them into the country for a short time as well... The Savages with the Accutrigger can really have a sweet trigger pull, and the button rifled barrels they put on them are accurate. I've just never cared for the way their actions felt. If I were to buy one it would be one of those gorgeous Savage 114 American models . Or an old Savage '99 lever action. A couple of other rifles that you may come across are the CZ bolt actions, which have a great mauser style action and usually a single set trigger. The only real draw back to them is they require CZ rings to go on the bases they have milled into the receiver. Also the TC Encore if you're not afraid of a single shot rifle. Pretty versatile rifle since you can buy barrels for it in almost any caliber you want, and swap them in about a minute. Can you tell I've handled a lot of hunting rifles? Heh, definitely! I've heard a lot of good things about those CZ rifles. Thanks for the footnote about needing CZ rings though. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/18/2012 4:17:48 PM
Originally Posted By KingAirDriver: Originally Posted By Chacal87: Originally Posted By KingAirDriver: Snip Snip Heh, definitely! I've heard a lot of good things about those CZ rifles. Thanks for the footnote about needing CZ rings though. mine came with rings. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/18/2012 10:24:30 PM
Originally Posted By supremeweasel67:
Originally Posted By KingAirDriver:
Originally Posted By Chacal87:
Originally Posted By KingAirDriver:
Snip Snip Heh, definitely! I've heard a lot of good things about those CZ rifles. Thanks for the footnote about needing CZ rings though. mine came with rings. Interesting, my dad bought a 527 Lux .223 a few years ago and there were no rings in the box. Great little rifle though. Just now poking around on Midway I found that several companies are making rings to fit the bases milled into their receivers. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/18/2012 10:31:35 PM
Originally Posted By Chacal87: Granted I got a CZ 550 American.
Originally Posted By supremeweasel67: Originally Posted By KingAirDriver: Originally Posted By Chacal87: Originally Posted By KingAirDriver: Snip Snip Heh, definitely! I've heard a lot of good things about those CZ rifles. Thanks for the footnote about needing CZ rings though. mine came with rings. Interesting, my dad bought a 527 Lux .223 a few years ago and there were no rings in the box. Great little rifle though. Just now poking around on Midway I found that several companies are making rings to fit the bases milled into their receivers. Just checked website and says 1 inch rings are standard. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/11/2012 10:08:14 PM
UPDATE:
Well, yesterday I turned 35 and my wife surprised me with a Savage Axis (camo) in .308! Had a Bushnell 3x9 on it. She was flipping out all week worrying whether or not I'd like whatever she got me.
 We went looking at rifles a while back and I put three on my list:
- Savage Axis (felt nice, decent price)
- Ruger American (same as above)
- Howa somethin-or-other
I really liked the Howa, nice trigger and bolt action, but it was way outta the budget. The Ruger and Savage were both fine with me; not the greatest trigger breaks, but good enough. I'm just getting into hunting so I didn't really need some Tacticool 1200 yd sniper rifle. This should do me just fine. Might put some other glass on it down the road, however, as this is a very basic reticle.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/12/2012 6:08:59 PM
Originally Posted By KingAirDriver:
UPDATE: Well, yesterday I turned 35 and my wife surprised me with a Savage Axis (camo) in .308! Had a Bushnell 3x9 on it. She was flipping out all week worrying whether or not I'd like whatever she got me. We went looking at rifles a while back and I put three on my list: - Savage Axis (felt nice, decent price) - Ruger American (same as above) - Howa somethin-or-other I really liked the Howa, nice trigger and bolt action, but it was way outta the budget. The Ruger and Savage were both fine with me; not the greatest trigger breaks, but good enough. I'm just getting into hunting so I didn't really need some Tacticool 1200 yd sniper rifle. This should do me just fine. Might put some other glass on it down the road, however, as this is a very basic reticle.
Perfect thats all you need. I dont agree with what alot of people on this web site say by useing weak roands and proper shot placement. My grandpa gave me my first deer rifle awhile back it is a Winchester 94 in 30-30 putsome deer down with her and now retired her last year and bought me a New T/C Venture in 7mm. Rem mag. I Guess I feal diffrent then others on here go BIG or go home. Also P.S. I have shot one Deer with my R-15 in 223 and what a joke when you can use big dog caliber. |
|
|
ARCHIVED
